new off farm loading pen and small crush for about 15 cattle at a time

patsy_mccabe

Jb1989 wrote: »

Interesting tip that

Speaking from experience on that one. We built a yard here in the 80's and put in a crush with box section uprights. 15 years later and they broke away at the base. I had to dig them out with s kango hammer and put in railway girders in their place. Now the box section wasn't galvanised only painted but still,

renandstimpy

Great idea Patsy

Bass Reeves

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Redandstimpy, just a little tip.
Make up some small square shapes from 1" timber, say 6" by 6" and drop them on the concrete around each upright. Fill them with concrete then. You'll keep all the rain and slurry away from the bottom of the uprights. You'll add years to your pen. Extra work but well worth it.;)
Super job, by the way.

When that goes it will be the next mans problem.

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Speaking from experience on that one. We built a yard here in the 80's and put in a crush with box section uprights. 15 years later and they broke away at the base. I had to dig them out with s kango hammer and put in railway girders in their place. Now the box section wasn't galvanized only painted but still,

Have seen galvanaized pens up 20+ years and still not a mark on them. If the tops of the upright pipes were open I would put a bar of 20mm reenforcing steel down into it and fill to the top with concrete then it would be the fella after the next mans problem.

patsy_mccabe

An hour would go a long wAy on that job Reeves. Maybe it's me but I hate Kango work. Have a good fee cubicles to replace now also.

blue5000

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

An hour would go a long wAy on that job Reeves. Maybe it's me but I hate Kango work. Have a good fee cubicles to replace now also.

We hired in a mini digger with a rock breaker on it a few years back for that job. Just make sure you have a decent pair of ear muffs.

Never wrestle with pigs

Haveto do the same here. Don't know what type of cubicles you have but I think I'm going to cut them off level to the ground and fit them easy fix ones.

Sum of the bigger cows don't lie in them and I think they get a fright trying to get up sum day and get half stuck and stop useing them. The easy fix type of cubicles they have loads of room in them.

invicta

Could you not cut them at ground level, and drive an internal sleeve down the cubicle pipe and refit the same cubicle over the sleeve again?
i.e. If cubicle is 2" steel,reinforce it with 1,3/4 steel 5mm galv. pipe
Then either weld or bolt the whole lot together!!

renandstimpy

Ya beat me to Invicta. .. I have seen that done on a friends cousins shed ... except he used new ones as old ones were gooshed . He hammered a size down tube into the hole left and dropped new ones over with a bit taken off them first .. I never heard anything since so presume they worked .. saved a lot of breaking out .

lough135

@renandstimpy I was looking at the photos of your cattle pen and was planning to put up something very similar, would it be possible for me to to come and look at yours when it is finished as looking at something in reality is better than on paper

renandstimpy

No problem at all lough135. .. got side tracked by the day job the last week so could be 2 weeks before i get the time to finish it .. could get someone in to do it I suppose but they'd never figure out what's in my head 😂😂

lough135

That would be great renandstimpy, much appreciated, I would send you a pm but don't have enough posts yet.

patsy_mccabe

Thought I'd add this here. From the Farmers Journal website.

Omallep2

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Thought I'd add this here. From the Farmers Journal website.

The "no return" for closing gate is the business I'd say...

blue5000

Well have we cow****e in the crush yet OP?

renandstimpy

Didn't get back at it until the last few days but will have pics tomorrow .. nearly there

renandstimpy

crash barrier just finished . Magdrill hired out for a day €30 came into its own .





Just after blinding it off with maintanence .. 3 gates to hang and decided to concrete the lot to be finished .



wonder will they be as obliging to go in when i want them to :rolleyes:

patsy_mccabe

Ya, save yerself a lot of hassle by concreting it now. Might hang that gate on the nearside too.;)

blue5000

One suggestion I'd make is raise a platform about 6-8 inches where you stand outside the crush, makes it a bit easier to reach the far side of cattle.

Cavanjack

renandstimpy wrote: »

crash barrier just finished . Magdrill hired out for a day €30 came into its own .





Just after blinding it off with maintanence .. 3 gates to hang and decided to concrete the lot to be finished .



wonder will they be as obliging to go in when i want them to :rolleyes:

Great job.fair play.
Is it ok to pour concrete on the likes of this? Will you not have issues with run off if inspected?

patsy_mccabe

Cavanjack wrote: »

Great job.fair play.
Is it ok to pour concrete on the likes of this? Will you not have issues with run off if inspected?

Just let it run out into the field, where it would have been anyway, if the cattle were not in the yard.:P

I said

Lovely job

renandstimpy

blue5000 wrote: »

One suggestion I'd make is raise a platform about 6-8 inches where you stand outside the crush, makes it a bit easier to reach the far side of cattle.

Ya Im going to make a platform that sits at about the same height as the bottom rail on crush in steel with open mesh to walk on . Ill get it galvanised and it will be in 4 sections so i can take out fast if animal goes down .

renandstimpy

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Just let it run out into the field, where it would have been anyway, if the cattle were not in the yard.:P

would be might thought

Cavanjack

renandstimpy wrote: »

would be might thought

I'd be of the same thinking but what if there's an inspection on the farm? Is soiled water off a concrete yard not supposed to be collected? I'm asking because I was thinking of building something similar on an out farm here and didn't think I'd be able to concrete it.

welton john

renandstimpy wrote: »

crash barrier just finished . Magdrill hired out for a day €30 came into its own .





Just after blinding it off with maintanence .. 3 gates to hang and decided to concrete the lot to be finished .



wonder will they be as obliging to go in when i want them to :rolleyes:

super job, befitting of the stock who'll be using it

Bass Reeves

I would concrete a inside the race only so that cattle cannot get a grip inside it to put pressure on bars or headgate. Ideally I would have put 3-6'' stone under the collecting part. I would be slow to put in a step as it makes the gates between the posts virtually redundant. Get some heavy 3'' box and make crosspeices for between the posts in the walkway. Make a set up where you can take them on and off and hve them 9-12'' off the ground. Then plank it for a walkway. Take your planks and crosspieces away after you are finished. You will not need them the day you are handling a single animal that is sick.

renandstimpy

well lads it has finally come to an end . concrete in , gates hanging and all welding done . Cattle will be going to factory in 10 days so the baptism is then






Just one thing i want to pick yere brains on . The centre gates of forcing pen are a bit tight and could do with a small bit of grease . just wondering about fitting a grease nipple to where im pointing at on each hanger of the four .
question is can i just bore out with a bit a size smaller and try threading nipple in itself :eek: ... or do i have to tap the hole .

patsy_mccabe

R&S, It's looking good. Pity dirty it. I'd say better tap the hole.
From the pics, it looks like all the weight is sitting on the lower hinge. Could you fit in a nylon flat disc (like a washer) between the two faces that rub along each other? That would help a lot too. An small engineering place would make one up for you.

blue5000

How about using an oil can instead of greasing it?

Great job, what did it cost altogether?

renandstimpy

Kinda the way it is oil probably would just run out of it .. to be honest it's probably just use it needs to wear it in .. the nylon washer would definitely free it up and stop wear .. ya all the weight is on the bottom hinges ..

Crush .. forcing pen ... and safety rails along crush .. 2900 Inc vat ... crash barrier came to 900 ... internal gates in local hardware came 400 .. bolts nuts and washers 70 ... concrete and expansion joints 1110.. digging and stone 400 .. miscellaneous 100 for welding rods and steel plates for hanging gates off crash barrier .
Total 5880 Inc vat