Jan and Klodi's Party Bus - part II **off topic discussion**

Harrybelafonte

So... Etiquette query. Was passed out by a small club spin when out on my own this morning. Spent a few kms sitting behind them. About 100-150ms. Felt a bit weird but they had their thing. I had mine. The pace was a bit slower than I'd have liked, so I overtook and went on my way. Bad form?

These little things don't matter but they do.

Raam

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

So... Etiquette query. Was passed out by a small club spin when out on my own this morning. Spent a few kms sitting behind them. About 100-150ms. Felt a bit weird but they had their thing. I had mine. The pace was a bit slower than I'd have liked, so I overtook and went on my way. Bad form?

These little things don't matter but they do.

Nope. Do whatever you want.

RobFowl

Raam wrote: »

Nope. Do whatever you want.

Just be aware they were talking about and laughing at you ...

If they were going too slow how come they caught and passed you

Harrybelafonte

RobFowl wrote: »

Just be aware they were talking about and laughing at you ...

If they were going too slow how come they caught and passed you

Well, thanks to Strava Flybys they know exactly who I am.

I was recovering from having momentarily caught my testicle between my saddle and my leg. Personally, I think they heard my cry if pain and figured they'd pounce.

CramCycle

Qualitymark wrote: »

Like high-viz, licence plates are a secular Miraculous Medal that protect the cyclist.

My mother in law got her license without a test, she has never been in an accident but she is a terrible driver. She also has a miraculous medal in the car and a bottle of holy water for all journeys.

Either the piece of paper is more beneficial than the test, the medals work, both together act as a forcefield from danger or, controversially to many drivers who have shouted at other drivers, not being in an accident does not mean you are a good or safe driver, it's just a statement that has no impact on future road events involving that person.

rollingscone

tomasrojo wrote: »

It might be time to start offering asylum to Australian cyclists.

Must...share...so...on...the...nose...

https://twitter.com/Flaminghobo1/status/664188753284583428?s=09

manafana

CramCycle wrote: »

My mother in law got her license without a test, she has never been in an accident but she is a terrible driver. She also has a miraculous medal in the car and a bottle of holy water for all journeys.

Either the piece of paper is more beneficial than the test, the medals work, both together act as a forcefield from danger or, controversially to many drivers who have shouted at other drivers, not being in an accident does not mean you are a good or safe driver, it's just a statement that has no impact on future road events involving that person.

passing your test just meant on one day you where able to drive as required by the testing standards, once gotten the driving can go anyway it wants.

Qualitymark

manafana wrote: »

passing your test just meant on one day you where able to drive as required by the testing standards, once gotten the driving can go anyway it wants.

It also means you passed that particular time's testing standards. I failed a test for not doing something that today you'd be failed for doing - applying the handbrake at a red light.

CramCycle

manafana wrote: »

passing your test just meant on one day you where able to drive as required by the testing standards, once gotten the driving can go anyway it wants.

The required standard for her was to fill in a form.

Qualitymark

CramCycle wrote: »

The required standard for her was to fill in a form.

More than 50 years ago, then?

http://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/car-talk/why-roads-are-safer-after-50-years-of-the-driving-test-30062291.html

buffalo

Qualitymark wrote: »

It also means you passed that particular time's testing standards. I failed a test for not doing something that today you'd be failed for doing - applying the handbrake at a red light.

Why do you think you'd be failed for applying the handbrake at a red light?

Qualitymark

buffalo wrote: »

Why do you think you'd be failed for applying the handbrake at a red light?

Because people here have told me that it's now a fail item.

buffalo

Qualitymark wrote: »

Because people here have told me that it's now a fail item.

Don't believe everything you read on the Internet!

Examples of ‘Vehicle Control’ faults include:

Handbrake: not applied as appropriate on an incline, or during a prolonged stop in traffic, or being applied before the vehicle has come to a halt, or inadequate application, or attempting to drive while the handbrake is still engaged. Not applying the handbrake at the end of the test.

http://rsa.ie/Documents/ADI/Information%20Pack/DrivingFault_Marking_Guides.pdf

RobFowl

CramCycle wrote: »

The required standard for her was to fill in a form.

My mother was the same, never had to do a test, never had a major accident but an awful driver!

Jawgap

CramCycle

Qualitymark wrote: »

More than 50 years ago, then?

http://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/car-talk/why-roads-are-safer-after-50-years-of-the-driving-test-30062291.html

I won't comment on my mother in laws age but the amnesty was 1979 AFAIK so 37 years ago.

My own mother failed her test in London, also in the 70s, then followed my aunts suggestion to wear a short skirt on the retest (she wore trousers for the first one). She claims she made more mistakes the second time but they were not noted for some reason.

Harrybelafonte

Just to right this gender imbalance. My dad's a **** driver.

Qualitymark

I'll see your father and raise you mine: he drove with his face close to the windscreen, hunched over the wheel, at a steady 30mph, the car placed midway over the centre line of the road, and occasionally shouted "BE QUIET CAN'T YOU SEE I'M DRIVING BE QUIET" at any of us who opened our trap.

Fian

rollingscone wrote: »

Must...share...so...on...the...nose...

https://twitter.com/Flaminghobo1/status/664188753284583428?s=09

Better yet try USA where they really know how to deter unsafe cycling behaviour - like riding whilst in possession of headphones.....

http://www.thejournal.ie/los-angeles-noel-aguilar-2513841-Dec2015/

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/americas/noel-aguilar-graphic-footage-shows-police-officer-planting-gun-and-shooting-colleague-before-killing-suspect-cyclist-34304563.html

LollipopJimmy

A lady taxi driver pulled straight out in front of me today... my generalising brain cells went into a meltdown

koutoubia

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

Just to right this gender imbalance. My dad's a **** driver.

As is/was mine when he was driving!

Drove a truck for Guinness for decades and was great. Not one accident.
But once he got into his car god help anyone who got in his way.
Was like donkey derby.

magicbastarder

Fian wrote: »

Better yet try USA where they really know how to deter unsafe cycling behaviour - like riding whilst in possession of headphones.....

http://www.thejournal.ie/los-angeles-noel-aguilar-2513841-Dec2015/

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/americas/noel-aguilar-graphic-footage-shows-police-officer-planting-gun-and-shooting-colleague-before-killing-suspect-cyclist-34304563.html

i'm assuming the first shot was accidental, rather than one cop thinking 'now's my chance to off bob, he keeps nicking my sandwiches from the staff fridge'.

snubbleste

"Heat the grease in an old frypan or tin and soak the chain in the hot grease. Lasts for ages"
Does this actually work before I get a blowtorch and heat the grease?

magicbastarder

CramCycle wrote: »

My mother in law got her license without a test, she has never been in an accident but she is a terrible driver. She also has a miraculous medal in the car and a bottle of holy water for all journeys.

might have mentioned this before; my mother in law was getting a lift home from a friend (at night) and her friend commented 'i think everyone around here thinks they know me, they keep flashing at me'.
MIL: 'no, josephine, they're flashing at you because you're driving with full beams on. you should dip them'.
josephine: 'dip my headlights? sure i'm as blind as a bat, i wouldn't be able to see a thing then'.

Unknown Soldier

snubbleste wrote: »

"Heat the grease in an old frypan or tin and soak the chain in the hot grease. Lasts for ages"
Does this actually work before I get a blowtorch and heat the grease?

I think lube/chain technology may have come on a tad since the 1950s but it might still work.

tomasrojo

Qualitymark wrote: »

Australian genius Duncan Gay says the way to protect cyclists from being killed is to give them licences.

https://twitter.com/bikesnobnyc/status/678915213433917440

$319 fine (€200+) for not wearing a helmet and compulsory carrying of ID. Australia leads the world in this sort of nonsense.

Unknown Soldier

tomasrojo wrote: »

https://twitter.com/bikesnobnyc/status/678915213433917440

$319 fine (€200+) for not wearing a helmet and compulsory carrying of ID. Australia leads the world in this sort of nonsense.

I wouldn't have any issues with that, If it meant I could cycle on the road and it robbed about 80% of drivers thinking I was "not paying tax" and the various arguments.

I'm a minority, probably. Possibly my own race, as it happens, a bit like knackers.

Diarmuid

Unknown Soldier wrote: »

I wouldn't have any issues with that, If it meant I could cycle on the road and it robbed about 80% of drivers thinking I was "not paying tax" and the various arguments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

tomasrojo

Unknown Soldier wrote: »

I wouldn't have any issues with that, If it meant I could cycle on the road and it robbed about 80% of drivers thinking I was "not paying tax" and the various arguments.

I'm not sure there is any concession you could make that would give you anything like parity of esteem in Australia. When it comes to cycling, it's deeply weird.

LollipopJimmy

Following a lad today up Howth Head, if your stretchy pants feel too tight they probably are too tight... and see through 😕