Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

MaroonAndGreen

TommyDe wrote:

Personally I think we need to start 2 new inside forwards regan/loftus for the rest of the championship to build them up.

Agreed, heard Loftus was very poor in club championship at the weekend though, of course that could be for any reason and you wouldn't be judging on that completely. He's one of the guys that we do need to step up in the next 1-2 years and be a Paul Mannion (Dublin) like figure for Mayo.

MaroonAndGreen

TommyDe wrote:

Mcloughlin/D O'connor on the wings and be bold and put keegan in centre half forward with coen as centre back. Keegan would be able to switch to midfield too if needs be. AOS to come on or start at full forward. There is a lot more variety here as players can be moved around easier.

DOC is in danger of going down the Shane Walsh route, exceptional talent but very inconsistent. I feel like I'm being so harsh saying that though as he's young and being young naturally brings inconsistency in a sportsperson in a pressure situation.

yop

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

DOC is in danger of going down the Shane Walsh route, exceptional talent but very inconsistent. I feel like I'm being so harsh saying that though as he's young and being young naturally brings inconsistency in a sportsperson in a pressure situation.

Injury and maybe too much game time could be causing it. Hard to gauge but he isn't the same DOC.

Green Peter

MaroonAndGreen wrote:

DOC is in danger of going down the Shane Walsh route, exceptional talent but very inconsistent. I feel like I'm being so harsh saying that though as he's young and being young naturally brings inconsistency in a sportsperson in a pressure situation.

He'll never have the talent Shane Walsh has, no comparison!

yop

Green Peter wrote: »

He'll never have the talent Shane Walsh has, no comparison!

He has sorry, but unless you've been buried in a hole.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diarmuid_O%27Connor

Note back to back young player of the year, AI winner at minor and U21, MOM of the match in the U21 semi and AI final.

Based on your previous post I expect the same response

charlie14

yop wrote: »

He has sorry, but unless you've been buried in a hole.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diarmuid_O%27Connor

Note back to back young player of the year, AI winner at minor and U21, MOM of the match in the U21 semi and AI final.

Based on your previous post I expect the same response

The lad has obviously got a lot of talent and a lot of experience but what the hell has happened to him in the last two years ?
He is a pale shadow of the footballer he was.

yop

charlie14 wrote: »

The lad has obviously got a lot of talent and a lot of experience but what the hell has happened to him in the last two years ?
He is a pale shadow of the footballer he was.

The injury he sustained has labored his performances since. He was outstanding in the U21 series and was voted U21 player of the year.
He looks tired, but outside of the injury he has not got any rest.

naughto

Green Peter wrote: »

He'll never have the talent Shane Walsh has, no comparison!

Ah now Peter I don't no what your drinking but it must be Turing you green.
Doc is miles ahead of what Walshe was

Oldtree

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yop

Oldtree wrote: »

Thank goodness..... unreserved seating

Mighty, I can bring the 2 juniors with me

Oldtree

Can anyone tell me if the bring a friend option will be available with the season ticket for match.

yop

Oldtree wrote: »

Can anyone tell me if the bring a friend option will be available with the season ticket for match.

Id be surprised if it wasnt tbh, it was for the qualifiers and QF last year.

Oldtree

yop wrote: »

Id be surprised if it wasnt tbh, it was for the qualifiers and QF last year.

Thanks Yop, do you know if will it be stand ticket for the friend?

yop

Oldtree wrote: »

Thanks Yop, do you know if will it be stand ticket for the friend?

You MAY get kicked to the sideline.
In croker, if you went with your own ST you'd get a decent seat, when I did the BAF I got pushed to the sides on 1 occassion and to the upper stand on the 2nd occassion.
So if ST holders already book out McHale park stand then if u bring a friend they may give a sideline ticket then.

I think thats what might happen.

Padkir

TommyDe wrote: »

There is a serious confidence issue with mayo forwards at present.

Personally I think we need to start 2 new inside forwards regan/loftus for the rest of the championship to build them up.


Mcloughlin/D O'connor on the wings and be bold and put keegan in centre half forward with coen as centre back. Keegan would be able to switch to midfield too if needs be.
AOS to come on or start at full forward.
There is a lot more variety here as players can be moved around easier.

I like Rochford and his way of thinking. He just needs to improve the forward line to get more out of them as sometimes I feel our forwards can be thinking too defensively at key moments (DOC recent goalmouth miss being a prime example) rather than have that killer instinct.

No room for Cillian in your team?

charlie14

yop wrote: »

The injury he sustained has labored his performances since. He was outstanding in the U21 series and was voted U21 player of the year.
He looks tired, but outside of the injury he has not got any rest.

I can see that perhaps it is due to his injury, in which case I would question team doctor physio and management of any team that is playing him if his injury is still a problem, but the tiredness I don`t really get.
It`s not as if there aren`t loads of players with the same schedule. Some in fact with even heavier when you consider work, travel and family commitments etc.
Could it possible be that the step up from under 21 to senior in both training and senior inter-county matches is the problem ?

The hits in both at senior level can be debilitating and no help to a player`s confidence off one off whom so much is expected.
Football wise the lad just seems on a downward spiral for quite some time now.

km79

charlie14 wrote: »

I can see that perhaps it is due to his injury, in which case I would question team doctor physio and management of any team that is playing him if his injury is still a problem, but the tiredness I don`t really get.
It`s not as if there aren`t loads of players with the same schedule. Some in fact with even heavier when you consider work, travel and family commitments etc.
Could it possible be that the step up from under 21 to senior in both training and senior inter-county matches is the problem ?

The hits in both at senior level can be debilitating and no help to a player`s confidence off one off whom so much is expected.
Football wise the lad just seems on a downward spiral for quite some time now.

It's not even 12 months since the Kildare game
That's hardly a downward spiral ?
He has played a lot of that time injured and Or out of position
Lack of confidence now perhaps
Class is permanent
He is class
And young
He is the least of Mayos worries!

charlie14

km79 wrote: »

It's not even 12 months since the Kildare game
That's hardly a downward spiral ?
He has played a lot of that time injured and Or out of position
Lack of confidence now perhaps
Class is permanent
He is class
And young
He is the least of Mayos worries!

Then he certainly should not have been played carrying an injury if that is the case.
Being young and having class is one thing, but if a players confidence takes a serious dip, as his appears to have, it is not that easy to get it back.

km79

charlie14 wrote: »

Then he certainly should not have been played carrying an injury if that is the case.
Being young and having class is one thing, but if a players confidence takes a serious dip, as his appears to have, it is not that easy to get it back.

Yeah he was very labored after the Kildare game and really was not right for rest of year but we are just so short of forwards and he is so good.........
I agree with a lot of what you say tbh
There is a slight worry in there for me BUT I think himself and his brother are very resilient mentally and physically
There was a similar worry around cillian for s few years

One thin is certain for me
If mayo are to win the AI we need diarmuid back to his best

finisklin

What is Diarmuids best position? His versatility is excellent and perhaps may be his weakness as he's hasn't really focussed on one position exclusively over the last 2 years.

Centre forward would seem to fit and he did alright there agin Galway. He did start second half at mid field as well.

PressRun

He played half back for Ballintubber last weekend and had a decent game, so I'm told.

PressRun

Also, don't think the prognosis for Aidan O'Shea's injury is too good. Not improving as quickly as you'd like, apparently. Struggled for Breaffy at the weekend.

statto25

finisklin wrote: »

What is Diarmuids best position? His versatility is excellent and perhaps may be his weakness as he's hasn't really focussed on one position exclusively over the last 2 years.

Centre forward would seem to fit and he did alright there agin Galway. He did start second half at mid field as well.

He seemed to spend some time against Galway hugging the sideline instead of staying central. His role at wing forward last year seen him gathering kickouts on his own half back line. He needs to be able to express himself. He's fast and dangerous and can cause consternation in defences when he runs at them. Remember his goal against Kildare last year....thats the Diarmuid we need. Following that game he just seem to go into a more restricted role. Play him at 11 and let him at it.

naughto

PressRun wrote: »

Also, don't think the prognosis for Aidan O'Shea's injury is too good. Not improving as quickly as you'd like, apparently. Struggled for Breaffy at the weekend.

It's not the injury that's holding him back is what is coming from the breaffy camp if he was injured there's no way they would play him

seligehgit

THREE Mayo players - Lee Keegan, Ger Cafferkey and Aidan O'Shea - are very much on the doubtful list ahead of their All-Ireland qualifier against Derry which is down for decision in Elverys MacHale Park, Castlebar, on Saturday evening, July 1, at 5 p.m. 2016 Footballer of the Year, Lee Keegan, picked up a hip injury when assisting his club, Westport, in their Mayo senior championship second round game last weekend. Keegan clashed with Charlestown's Jack Reilly towards the end of the game and as a result in now in a race against time to be fit for the Derry game. Full-back Ger Cafferkey also picked up an injury while playing for his club Ballina in their senior championship encounter with Crossmolina. Like Keegan, it is going to be touch and go for him in terms of being fit to start against Derry. There are also concerns regarding the fitness of Aidan O'Shea. While the Breaffy man did play for his club against Hollymount/Carramore in their club championship game last weekend, he still is struggling with a groin injury he picked up a number of weeks ago and left him unable to start the semi-final game against Galway. While he did come on in the second-half, it was noticeable, as it was in the club championship game last weekend, that he was not 100 per cent fit. The Connaught Telegraph was informed this evening by a spokesperson for the team that a decision on all three will not to be made until shortly before the Derry game. Should the three be unable to play it would leave Mayo very stretched at the back, especially as Keith Higgins is ruled out of this game after picking up a one-match ban for his sending off in the provincial semi-final. The only bit of good news coming from the Mayo camp is that Castlebar Mitchels ace Barry Moran is back in training. Moran took a full part in last Tuesday evenings session. Up to that Moran has been unable to play for his club or county since the Connaught club semi-final against Corofin last November.

Fr Tod Umptious

So missing the following from the full back line, Harrison, Keane, Cafferkey and Higgins.

That leaves Barrett.

Probably not name a full back as they did last year, let McLoughlin sweep and put Durkan in the corner.

Then a half back line without Keegan, and Durkan if he goes into the corner.
So you might try Coen, Boyle and Vaughan.

Very patched up looking, could be fatal if things go wrong.

jr86

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

So missing the following from the full back line, Harrison, Keane, Cafferkey and Higgins.

That leaves Barrett.

Probably not name a full back as they did last year, let McLoughlin sweep and put Durkan in the corner.

Then a half back line without Keegan, and Durkan if he goes into the corner.
So you might try Coen, Boyle and Vaughan.

Very patched up looking, could be fatal if things go wrong.

Harrison is fine isn't he?

Just inexplicably left on the bench the last day alongside another current All Star

Oldtree

yop wrote: »

You MAY get kicked to the sideline.
In croker, if you went with your own ST you'd get a decent seat, when I did the BAF I got pushed to the sides on 1 occassion and to the upper stand on the 2nd occassion.
So if ST holders already book out McHale park stand then if u bring a friend they may give a sideline ticket then.

I think thats what might happen.

Don't want to leave stand, gone very soft now that I've gotten the season ticket.

There's no tickets being circulated through club. Anyone know where I can get extra stand tickets. Tickets.ie says general admission tickets available.

Fr Tod Umptious

jr86 wrote: »

Harrison is fine isn't he?

Just inexplicably left on the bench the last day alongside another current All Star

Is he ?
I've no idea.

I was just posting a worst case scenario.

km79

After carefully booking dates that didn't class with Connaught final I'm away for this one
I am trying to opt out but can't for the life of me manage to do it
All I'm getting when I click into manage opt out is the summary of opt outs to date 0\1
There is no option to click for an opt out ? It's such an archaic website!!!!!

Oldtree

Bit odd alright. They must of forgot to update the opt out section. The attendance section is updated with the match. Maby they will do it later today as it would have to be done before Monday morning.

km79

Oldtree wrote: »

Bit odd alright. They must of forgot to update the opt out section. The attendance section is updated with the match. Maby they will do it later today as it would have to be done before Monday morning.

It is there now

Blackjack

jr86 wrote: »

Harrison is fine isn't he?

Just inexplicably left on the bench the last day alongside another current All Star

Had a broken nose from club duties the previous week I believe

yop

Douglas, Irwin and Ruane gone to the US for the summer. Shame that none of them were part of the panel.

ureds

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

So missing the following from the full back line, Harrison, Keane, Cafferkey and Higgins.

That leaves Barrett.

Probably not name a full back as they did last year, let McLoughlin sweep and put Durkan in the corner.

Then a half back line without Keegan, and Durkan if he goes into the corner.
So you might try Coen, Boyle and Vaughan.

Very patched up looking, could be fatal if things go wrong.

Unless he picks up an injury between now and matchday Harrison will start.

Squatman

http://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2017/06/25/4142184-mayo-players-held-secret-meeting-after-galway-defeat-/

PressRun

Those meetings are par for the course after most defeats, no? You'd be more concerned if they weren't getting together to hash things out.

TCDStudent1

PressRun wrote: »

Those meetings are par for the course after most defeats, no? You'd be more concerned if they weren't getting together to hash things out.

The heading seems strange to me. Who was it a secret to if Rochford knew about it?!

PressRun

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

The heading seems strange to me. Who was it a secret to if Rochford knew about it?!

I dunno. The public? The Connaught Telegraph are known **** stirrers though so they might be just making a story out of nothing.

TCDStudent1

PressRun wrote: »

I dunno. The public? The Connaught Telegraph are known **** stirrers though so they might be just making a story out of nothing.

yeah, it seems something of a sensationalist headline to me.

In saying that, it seems strange that Rochford was not part of the meeting. But I guess all players would have been 'released' back to their clubs for a few days.

naughto

Prob told O'Shea to loose two stone to start with. Prob set up by Rockford as players will speak more if manager is not there

naughto

This will prob start a row but if we loose on sat does the rochford get the bullet??
Two yrs in a row to loose to Galway

yop

Aidan Henry as has been said here many many times is the Telegraphs wanna be Sun reporter. He is around long enough to know the meeting is par of the course and it wasn't secret.

The guy is and always has been a sh(Te stirrer with little to no interest in real news with regards Mayo GAA. Read John Melvins columns if you want some intelligent reporting.

km79

Who is Rockford ?

yop

km79 wrote: »

Who is Rockford ?

Stoner

km79 wrote:

Who is Rockford ?

He's the Mayo document controller.

PARlance

naughto wrote: »

This will prob start a row but if we loose on sat does the rochford get the bullet??
Two yrs in a row to loose to Galway

Loose lips sink ships.

seligehgit

Maurice Deegan is going to be the man in the middle on Saturday evening.

PressRun

Some very worrying rumours going round about injuries. If true, it could be a short summer.

Fr Tod Umptious

PressRun wrote: »

Some very worrying rumours going round about injuries. If true, it could be a short summer.

Who is being mentioned ?

Anyone other than AOS, Cafferkey and Keegan ?