Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

PressRun

Cillian O'Connor will miss the league. They're still trying to sort out the knee trouble he's been having. Full fitness seems to have been a bit of a problem for him in recent times. Hopefully he'll be fully recovered in time for the championship.

NabyLadistheman

PressRun wrote: »

Cillian O'Connor will miss the league. They're still trying to sort out the knee trouble he's been having. Full fitness seems to have been a bit of a problem for him in recent times. Hopefully he'll be fully recovered in time for the championship.

The rumours weren't far off the mark... seemed to be carrying that all year. Hopefully he is fully on the road to recovery already

PressRun

Suarezistheman wrote: »

The rumours weren't far off the mark... seemed to be carrying that all year. Hopefully he is fully on the road to recovery already

Yeah, I'd heard myself a while ago that his knee wasn't in the best of shape, and hadn't been for some time. Apparently it's rehab for the next 4 months or so. Hopefully that'll do the trick and sort it out once and for all.

charlie14

PressRun wrote: »

Yeah, I'd heard myself a while ago that his knee wasn't in the best of shape, and hadn't been for some time. Apparently it's rehab for the next 4 months or so. Hopefully that'll do the trick and sort it out once and for all.

Hope everything goes well for him and while not the ideal way to get it, the rest will most likely do the lad good.

Ascii

charlie14 wrote: »

Hope everything goes well for him and while not the ideal way to get it, the rest will most likely do the lad good.

I hope the few months off will sort it. IMO a knee injury seems to be one injury that is hard to shake off permanently. Has ended many a good career prematurely ....e.g. Michael Meehan

Hopefully we see him in Castlebar in May for Galway. You would feel 6 months should work wonders for it.

Fr Tod Umptious

PressRun wrote: »

Cillian O'Connor will miss the league. They're still trying to sort out the knee trouble he's been having. Full fitness seems to have been a bit of a problem for him in recent times. Hopefully he'll be fully recovered in time for the championship.

He's a guy who definitely needs a rest.
Since coming back from the shoulder injury in 2014 He has been playing non stop for the last few years while not 100%

2014 Championship
2014 Mayo and Connacht club with Ballintubber
Siggerson.
Most of the 2015 league
2015 Championship

Plus it gives the manager a chance to use alternatives in the forwards.

WallyGUFC

Ascii wrote: »

I hope the few months off will sort it. IMO a knee injury seems to be one injury that is hard to shake off permanently. Has ended many a good career prematurely ....e.g. Michael Meehan

Hopefully we see him in Castlebar in May for Galway. You would feel 6 months should work wonders for it.

It's the ankle that got Michael Meehan unfortunately.

Ascii

WallyGUFC wrote: »

It's the ankle that got Michael Meehan unfortunately.

My bad...am I right in saying he did have some persistent trouble with the knee at one stage ?

WallyGUFC

Ascii wrote: »

My bad...am I right in saying he did have some persistent trouble with the knee at one stage ?

I'm not sure how serious it was but you're right, he had a cartilage operation on his knee last Winter.

Small bit on it here.

The ankle gave him awful trouble. Has very little if any cartilage left on it apparently.

padd b1975

Very worrying news regarding Cillian as far as I'm concerned.

He has shipped more serious injuries in the past five years than most county panels combined.

I really hope we can get another five years out of him, but I would really fear for him....

Always_Running

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

He's a guy who definitely needs a rest.
Since coming back from the shoulder injury in 2014 He has been playing non stop for the last few years while not 100%

2014 Championship
2014 Mayo and Connacht club with Ballintubber
Siggerson.
Most of the 2015 league
2015 Championship

Plus it gives the manager a chance to use alternatives in the forwards.

I think his Sigerson cup team where knocked out after the first game. He only played in 3 of the 7 NFL games this year but for a lad thats picking up a lot of injuries it probably no harm he is getting extended rest now. No need play him against London IMO the objective should be to get him fit for the Connacht semi final v Galway in June.

eastmayo

Well done to hollymount carramore and ardnaree today..good day for mayo football

yop

eastmayo wrote: »

Well done to hollymount carramore and ardnaree today..good day for mayo football

Agreed, if Cbar could do it then I would say it must be very unusual for one County to have a clean sweep in Connacht.

Oldtree

Not long now fixtures up on Midwest:

3rd Jan 2016 Mayo vs NUIG MacHale Park 2pm
10th Jan 2016 Mayo vs Sligo IT Ballina 2pm
with the Final on 24th January @ 2pm

http://midwestradio.ie/index.php/sport/29557-dates-confirmed-for-connacht-fbd-football-league

Anyone know about any updates/changes on the Allianz league provisional dates?

January 31st Cork v Mayo (2pm)
February 6th Mayo v Dublin (7pm)
February 28th Donegal v Mayo (2pm)
March 6th Monaghan v Mayo (2pm)
March 13th Mayo v Kerry (2pm)
March 27th Roscommon v Mayo (3pm)
April 3rd Mayo v Down (3pm)

http://mayogaablog.com/?p=17196

NabyLadistheman

Tough start to the league campaign.

seligehgit

Interesting article by James Horan advocating the abolition of the under 21 grade,it appears to be an eminently sensible proposal given the deluge of injuries that the most promising young players suffer from with excessive game time.

http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=23133%3Aex-mayo-boss-wants-under-21-scrapped&catid=14&Itemid=100008

Big game on Sunday for the Mitchels,hopefully they can put Corofin to the sword and Stephen Rochford set about his work asap.Quietly confident that this Mitchels have the wherewithal to do the job.

blowitupref

seligehgit wrote: »

Interesting article by James Horan advocating the abolition of the under 21 grade,it appears to be an eminently sensible proposal given the deluge of injuries that the most promising young players suffer from with excessive game time.

http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=23133%3Aex-mayo-boss-wants-under-21-scrapped&catid=14&Itemid=100008

College football which includes league football right now,FBD,O Bryne cup or McKenna cup and to be peaked for the February Sigerson cup is higher risk for injuries or burn out than knock out U-21 championship football. Mayo's 2013 minors played in how many U-21 championship games in the last two years? i think i would be looking to the training regime of the Mayo minor management or whats going on at college level to find out why those minors have picked up so many injuries.

Is Horan claiming U-21s can play college football instead of the U-21 championship? not every U-21 goes to college and then you have some U-21s that struggle to get starts because a more high profile county senior on a scholarship gets selected before him.

I think U-21s would prefer to win a U-21 title with their county than with their college team in front of a few hundred.

seligehgit

Agreed re the crowded schedule besides that could possibly be a bigger contributory factor to injuries to young players not only in Mayo.But most college students like to represent their college,the under 21 championship as it stands is probably the least prestigious of the football championship vis a vis minor and senior.This is reflected in the relatively paltry number of games in same said championship,crowds outside the latter stages,position in the football calendar year and apathy amongst the GAA community.

Oldtree

mayo.mick wrote: »

Mayo fixtures are here;

http://mayoclub51.com/mayo-gaa-2016-fixtures-results/senior-football-fixtures-results-2016/

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Thank you

Fr Tod Umptious

Saturday evening Connacht SF in Castlebar if we get that far.
That will be cool.

MayoForSam

Great performance by Castlebar in Tuam, Rochford is on his way . I reckon of few of the Mitchel's lads will step up to the county panel.

Fr Tod Umptious

Great news from Tuam
Castlebar win and Rochford freed up.
2-10 to 0-11

Mayo clean sweep in Connacht too.

seligehgit

MayoForSam wrote: »

Great performance by Castlebar in Tuam, Rochford is on his way . I reckon of few of the Mitchel's lads will step up to the county panel.

Most definitely a number of the Mitchel lads should be in contention for a call up.Fantastic display by the Mitchels.

blinding

Well done to the Mitchels and to the other Mayo teams:)
Best of luck to all in their next games.:)

mayo.mick

seligehgit

I think I'm like a broken record at times but I think Barry Moran doesn't get enough credit,he truly is a top class midfielder.His fielding abilities are second to none,he is an excellent distributor of the ball and always good for a score or two with an uncanny knack to pop up for the odd goal.
I know he's had his fair share of injuries and isn't blessed with a blinding mobility but I feel he has been underutilised down through the years.

I really hope Stephen Rochford has a serious look at a number of these Mitchels lads.Patrick Durkan will surely become a regular fixture in the Mayo half back line,Danny Kirby and several others should be given serious consideration.

Rob Thomas

There is no doubt that Rochford will give youth their chance with Mayo, he did with Corofin.

Preparation will be top notch but intercounty tactical requirements are a whole new ball game and nothing throughout his time with Corofin showed an ability to adapt the game plan during a game, or to chase a game when it was needed.

To be fair to him though, he had them so well set up and prepared that Plan A was usually more than enough to get through. But Mayo fans thinking he is all that is needed to get this group over the line are wrong.

He is an excellent modern coach, but until he has a season done with Mayo, we wont know if he is just another Jason Ryan.

Corofin was a good job for Rochford too, a talented, young, large pool of players who were lacking the focus to take the step to the very top. He showed he was able to get the best out of them but its been clear this year that they were unable to sustain it. They should not have got out of Galway really.

charlie14

Watching the final yesterday it struck me, from Mayo problems defensively in the past, watching Mitchell`s display second half, which of the two managers would be more likely to solve that problem.

Squatman

charlie14 wrote: »

Watching the final yesterday it struck me, from Mayo problems defensively in the past, watching Mitchell`s display second half, which of the two managers would be more likely to solve that problem.

what do you mean? mitchells manager vs rochford, or holmes/connelly ?

PressRun

So it seems Rochford's proposed backroom team has been confirmed.

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/2/2611150802-rochford-finalises-mayo-management-line-up/

martyos121

PressRun wrote: »

So it seems Rochford's proposed backroom team has been confirmed.

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/2/2611150802-rochford-finalises-mayo-management-line-up/

The back-room team he's assembled is All Ireland winning calibre IMO, even though the groundwork was partly done for it before he arrived, he just improved it.

The jury is obviously still out on Rochford himself, being new to the inter-county scene, but I have faith in him to at least get us to another final or two if he's given the time. The success of this season will be largely dependent on how COC recovers from his surgery and if he can hit the ground running when he returns. Could be an All Star year for his brother if he continues to develop as quickly as he has been. Exciting times.

PressRun

I'm very interested to see what Tony McEntee brings to the table. That Armagh team of 2002 were tanks, one of my favourites.

wazzer1

McEntee has done a pretty awful job in Dublin with Brigids this year anyway.

PressRun

Rochford to be ratified tonight apparently.

seligehgit

Stephen Rochford has tonight been ratified as Manager of the Mayo Senior Football Team on an initial 3 year term to be reviewed annually.Joining Stephen on the backroom team will be Tony McEntee (Selector/Coach),Donie Buckley (Selector/Coach),Barry Solan (Head of S & C),Sean Carey (Selector),Dr. Sean Moffatt (Head of Medical),Maurice Horan (Stats),Eoin Rochford (Logistics).

Fowler87

seligehgit wrote: »

Stephen Rochford has tonight been ratified as Manager of the Mayo Senior Football Team on an initial 3 year term to be reviewed annually.Joining Stephen on the backroom team will be Tony McEntee (Selector/Coach),Donie Buckley (Selector/Coach),Barry Solan (Head of S & C),Sean Carey (Selector),Dr. Sean Moffatt (Head of Medical),Maurice Horan (Stats),Eoin Rochford (Logistics).

Best of luck to them. Big year ahead

padd b1975

Three year term to be reviewed annually.....basically a one year deal dressed up to give the impression of stability.

I wish him well.

yop

For some strange reason this feels like if he doesn't do it we will be "quite" for a lot of years. There is a crop of players there who will probably retire and will be hard replaced.
He could be the one of just another one. Best of luck to them all.

Audioslaven

http://www.thejournal.ie/old-moores-almanac-2016-2473872-Nov2015/

PressRun

I'd like to think he'll have one eye on the future, beyond 2016. I think there's a lot of talk about things just having to come together in 2016 or that will somehow just be the end of it, which isn't how I feel about it at all. There needs to be a long term aim, not just all this fretting about 2016.

seligehgit

Very best of luck to Stephen and his backroom team,I really do think he's likely to give youth it's chance.The setup needs a bit of a freshening up.

Fr Tod Umptious

PressRun wrote: »

I'd like to think he'll have one eye on the future, beyond 2016. I think there's a lot of talk about things just having to come together in 2016 or that will somehow just be the end of it, which isn't how I feel about it at all. There needs to be a long term aim, not just all this fretting about 2016.

Yes the future is important but 2016 should not be sacrificed for the sake of rebuilding.

Mayo avoid both Dublin and Kerry, so all other things being equal, the path to the final should be easier than the last few years.

The likes of Higgins, Seamus O Shea, Ger Cafferkey, Tom Cuniffe, Barry Moran and certainly Andy Moran are all pushing on in age and mileage, they really cannot afford to look too fat ahead.

And finally the players decided that the previous setup did not give them the best chance of winning in 2016, that's why they rebeled, had they been content with rebuilding they may have given H&C another year.

PressRun

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Yes the future is important but 2016 should not be sacrificed for the sake of rebuilding.

Mayo avoid both Dublin and Kerry, so all other things being equal, the path to the final should be easier than the last few years.

The likes of Higgins, Seamus O Shea, Ger Cafferkey, Tom Cuniffe, Barry Moran and certainly Andy Moran are all pushing on in age and mileage, they really cannot afford to look too fat ahead.

And finally the players decided that the previous setup did not give them the best chance of winning in 2016, that's why they rebeled, had they been content with rebuilding they may have given H&C another year.

I'm not saying 2016 should be sacrificed for the sake of rebuilding, but life goes on after 2016, and I don't think we should lose sight of that either. I'd be wary of people working themselves into a frenzy over 2016. I'm excited for next year, but I'm also interested in what's going to happen in the future and what new players are going to come into the fold. I'd like to see many years of Mayo doing well rather than doing well in 2016 only to stagnate for a few years afterwards because nobody was thinking beyond that.

ProudDUB

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Yes the future is important but 2016 should not be sacrificed for the sake of rebuilding.

Mayo avoid both Dublin and Kerry, so all other things being equal, the path to the final should be easier than the last few years.

The likes of Higgins, Seamus O Shea, Ger Cafferkey, Tom Cuniffe, Barry Moran and certainly Andy Moran are all pushing on in age and mileage, they really cannot afford to look too fat ahead.

And finally the players decided that the previous setup did not give them the best chance of winning in 2016, that's why they rebeled, had they been content with rebuilding they may have given H&C another year.

Is having a so called "easy" path to the final, really an advantage these days? It may be on paper, but is it in cold, hard reality? In 2014 & 2015, both Dublin and Kerry benefited massively from having 2 tough semi final encounters, to battle harden them for their subsequent AI finals.

This year, having two tough games against Cork, really stood to Kerry. It didn't stand to them in the final, but it might have meant more, if they weren't facing a team that had come thru the replay wars of their own.

So all in all, am not so sure if having a cushy road to the AI final is a massive benefit in reality, that it may initially appear to be.

kupus

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

The likes of Higgins, Seamus O Shea, Ger Cafferkey, Tom Cuniffe, Barry Moran and certainly Andy Moran are all pushing on in age and mileage, they really cannot afford to look too fat ahead.

not really that fat imo, pudgy at a stretch, but not fat.

Fr Tod Umptious

ProudDUB wrote: »

Is having a so called "easy" path to the final, really an advantage these days? It may be on paper, but is it in cold, hard reality? In 2014 & 2015, both Dublin and Kerry benefited massively from having 2 tough semi final encounters, to battle harden them for their subsequent AI finals.

This year, having two tough games against Cork, really stood to Kerry. It didn't stand to them in the final, but it might have meant more, if they weren't facing a team that had come thru the replay wars of their own.

So all in all, am not so sure if having a cushy road to the AI final is a massive benefit in reality, that it may initially appear to be.

I'd argue that Dublin's failure to beat Donegal had more to do with Kerry winning in 2014 than Kerry's two tough games v Mayo.


I'm not a believer in the idea that teams like Mayo, Dublin and Kerry need a test before a final.

At this stage in the decade we know what those 3 are about
Its only when teams emerge from the field haveingplayed questionable opposition that we need to ask if they are real contenders or not.

Dublin would have still won the AI had they beat Mayo by 8 the first day.

Cosmo Kramer

Just a heads up for anyone interested - the Mayo GAA (€99) Season Ticket is back on sale this morning. First time I've seen it on sale in two years. It will just be a resale of tickets that were not renewed so they probably won't be around for long.

Fr Tod Umptious

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

Just a heads up for anyone interested - the Mayo GAA (€99) Season Ticket is back on sale this morning. First time I've seen it on sale in two years. It will just be a resale of tickets that were not renewed so they probably won't be around for long.

Just been on the site, they only seem to be selling the e200 season ticket + Cairdre Maigheo tickets.
Must be sold out of the season ticket only option.

Cosmo Kramer

They had the €99 option earlier, they also had a few Dublin season tickets which I see are gone also.

glack

They had emailed those on the waiting list last night and said they would be sold on a first come, first served basis this morning at 10am.