Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

Rawhead

Mexcanelo wrote: »

Based on their performance in the club final I don't think any county would be concerned with anyone on that Castlebar side adding anything to Mayo team.

The one positive from the Rossies rise is that the rest of the country is finally getting to see what we've had to deal with for years. I've no doubt they'll endear themselves to the rest of the island in the same way they've done here in Connacht.

eezipc

Rawhead wrote: »

The one positive from the Rossies rise is that the rest of the country is finally getting to see what we've had to deal with for years. I've no doubt they'll endear themselves to the rest of the island in the same way they've done here in Connacht.

Agreed, I moved to Roscommon recently (from Mayo). First venture to the local pub it was made very clear to me how much the Rossies hate Mayo. They seem to have had a great time over the past few years watching Mayo fall at the final hurdle.

TCDStudent1

eezipc wrote: »

Agreed, I moved to Roscommon recently (from Mayo). First venture to the local pub it was made very clear to me how much the Rossies hate Mayo. They seem to have had a great time over the past few years watching Mayo fall at the final hurdle.

Oh Roscommon hate everybody! And seem to have a bit of an inferiority complex when it comes to Galway and Mayo!

PressRun

eezipc wrote: »

Agreed, I moved to Roscommon recently (from Mayo). First venture to the local pub it was made very clear to me how much the Rossies hate Mayo. They seem to have had a great time over the past few years watching Mayo fall at the final hurdle.

I honestly don't get this mentality. I get that there's a local rivalry, but I'd always shout for other teams from Connacht if Mayo weren't playing. I was rooting for Roscommon in their matches against Kerry and Donegal and I was hoarse shouting for Galway in the hurling last year!

Always_Running

In 2006 when Mayo beat Dublin the All Ireland semi final in Croke park the majority for Roscommon supporters that attended that game (their minors played Meath that day) cheered Mayo on and clapped the Mayo players off the field after the game. The picture some posters are trying to paint on here about Roscommon supporters is a bit ridiculous, yes Roscommon have a few bad eggs but from my experience no more than any other county.

mass_debater

I'm a Mayo person living in Roscommon, the kids and the missus are Rossies. There is huge hatred (jealousy) for Mayo, I see it all the time, can't go near the pub when a Mayo match is on.

neiphin

mass_debater wrote: »

the kids and the missus . .

do they know your boards id ?

mass_debater

neiphin wrote: »

do they know your boards id ?

Nope. They're not on boards

Fr Tod Umptious

I don't have a problem with Roscommon as such.
I'd have like to see them win those couple of finals they were in recently.

But I find their current (self generated) hype rather amusing.
Its March, they are probably in a SF spot yet they think that other counties are jealous of them.

How many of Roscommons starting 15 on Sunday are likely to be championship starters ?
Remember the likes of Mayo, Kerry and Dublin have a lot of important guys still to come back.

What's also funny is the notion that they stole the services of McStay and McHale from under Mayo's noses.
My own thoughts about McHales membership of a management setup I have made clear a good while back, and they have not changed, give me Buckley as a trainer any day of the week over McHale.
And McStay also seems to be a joint manager with O'Donnell.
Now I know we had joint managers in Mayo but that was on the request of the guys themselves, this seems to be something that has been put in place to appease someone or other.
Did McStay really come to Roscommon with the plan of being a joint manager ?

kupus

neiphin wrote: »

do they know your boards id ?

wellin fairness its not a name youd go shouting around a pub when your half lit... :pac:

manofwisdom

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

McStay also seems to be a joint manager with O'Donnell.
Now I know we had joint managers in Mayo but that was on the request of the guys themselves, this seems to be something that has been put in place to appease someone or other.
Did McStay really come to Roscommon with the plan of being a joint manager ?

A McStay quote back in October.

“When John Evans resigned I knew this was an opportunity because I knew that the Mayo job was not going to happen for me so I had reconciled myself to that a long time ago.
“But I had made up my mind that if I ever did this job in Roscommon that I would have to have a very strong Roscommon voice with me and I decided a long, long time ago, even going back a few years, that if I was ever asked to do the Roscommon job then Fergal O’Donnell would have to be the man with me – and if he didn’t agree then I would not have done it.
“It was probably a bit unfair on Fergal because it put pressure on him, but I told him that I would not do this job without him and we teased it out over a number of meetings and thankfully he agreed to join me and that’s where we are now.”

Fr Tod Umptious

manofwisdom wrote: »

A McStay quote back in October.

“When John Evans resigned I knew this was an opportunity because I knew that the Mayo job was not going to happen for me so I had reconciled myself to that a long time ago.
“But I had made up my mind that if I ever did this job in Roscommon that I would have to have a very strong Roscommon voice with me and I decided a long, long time ago, even going back a few years, that if I was ever asked to do the Roscommon job then Fergal O’Donnell would have to be the man with me – and if he didn’t agree then I would not have done it.
“It was probably a bit unfair on Fergal because it put pressure on him, but I told him that I would not do this job without him and we teased it out over a number of meetings and thankfully he agreed to join me and that’s where we are now.”

That's fair enough I suppose, I was not aware of that.

Fr Tod Umptious

seligehgit wrote: »

I heard one name mentioned yesterday.Very disappointed with said individual if it is true that he is causing difficulties for Stephen Rochford.

Now that you have a name can you put any motives to their displeasure with Rochford ?

Is he an established player who looks set to lose his place ?
Is he a young player that showed progress last year but is not getting as much game time as he expected ?
Is the player influential ?
Is the player being played our of position ?

nice_guy80

mass_debater wrote: »

I'm a Mayo person living in Roscommon, the kids and the missus are Rossies. There is huge hatred (jealousy) for Mayo, I see it all the time, can't go near the pub when a Mayo match is on.

Then move out of the county!

Roscommon is full of Mayo and Galway people, I don't think I've ever seen a lynching yet.

Isn't it great to see two Connacht teams in Division 1 battling it out. If Galway were any good they'd be up there too.

Supernintento Chalmers

seligehgit wrote: »

I heard one name mentioned yesterday.Very disappointed with said individual if it is true that he is causing difficulties for Stephen Rochford.

Probably AOS again :rolleyes:

kilns

Who cares if some Roscommon supporters dont like you, its only natural. Just like in Dublin, we would have the most disdain for Tyrone I would feel, the Meath thing is gone as they are no threat to Dublin anymore.

As someone previously said, all counties have bad apples. I can remember that famous semi final very well and some Mayo supporters that day did not cover themselves in glory along with David Brady

BPKS

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I don't have a problem with Roscommon as such.
I'd have like to see them win those couple of finals they were in recently.

But I find their current (self generated) hype rather amusing.
Its March, they are probably in a SF spot yet they think that other counties are jealous of them.

How many of Roscommons starting 15 on Sunday are likely to be championship starters ?
Remember the likes of Mayo, Kerry and Dublin have a lot of important guys still to come back.

What's also funny is the notion that they stole the services of McStay and McHale from under Mayo's noses.
My own thoughts about McHales membership of a management setup I have made clear a good while back, and they have not changed, give me Buckley as a trainer any day of the week over McHale.
And McStay also seems to be a joint manager with O'Donnell.
Now I know we had joint managers in Mayo but that was on the request of the guys themselves, this seems to be something that has been put in place to appease someone or other.
Did McStay really come to Roscommon with the plan of being a joint manager ?

Do you see the irony in this?

seligehgit

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Now that you have a name can you put any motives to their displeasure with Rochford ?

Is he an established player who looks set to lose his place ?
Is he a young player that showed progress last year but is not getting as much game time as he expected ?
Is the player influential ?
Is the player being played our of position ?

TBH Father Tod I do not wish to reveal his name,I do not wish to sow discord where it may not be nor add fuel to the fire.

I truly regret having posted it.The new manager has a tough enough job as it is without people like me making it any more so trying a task.

yop

seligehgit wrote: »

TBH Father Tod I do not wish to reveal his name,I do not wish to sow discord where it may not be nor add fuel to the fire.

I truly regret having posted it.The new manager has a tough enough job as it is without people like me making it any more so trying a task.

Agree on this. I've heard mention of it, might be the same player, might not. Regardless SR and his team need to deal with it. I'd say every county has issues with players and with social media and the exposure that players get its only natural for lads to get too big for their shoes.

Any idea who the ref is for Sunday? It will be a million mile an hour start I'd say.

Syferus

mass_debater wrote: »

I'm a Mayo person living in Roscommon, the kids and the missus are Rossies. There is huge hatred (jealousy) for Mayo, I see it all the time, can't go near the pub when a Mayo match is on.

Nonsense. There's just as much dislike going both ways. And take that from someone who's lived on the border all his life.

And not a person on either side minds where you're from a jot apart from a few weeks a year.

seligehgit

yop wrote: »

Agree on this. I've heard mention of it, might be the same player, might not. Regardless SR and his team need to deal with it. I'd say every county has issues with players and with social media and the exposure that players get its only natural for lads to get too big for their shoes.

Any idea who the ref is for Sunday? It will be a million mile an hour start I'd say.

Maurice Deegan is the referee,the game is live on TG4.

blinding

yop wrote: »

Agree on this. I've heard mention of it, might be the same player, might not. Regardless SR and his team need to deal with it. I'd say every county has issues with players and with social media and the exposure that players get its only natural for lads to get too big for their shoes.

Any idea who the ref is for Sunday? It will be a million mile an hour start I'd say.

If every player on a panel or or the fringes of a panel were happy then the manager probably must be doing something wrong.

People do not have to like their manager/leader but a large if not a very large number must respect the manager/leader.

padd b1975

Syferus wrote: »

Nonsense. There's just as much dislike going both ways. And take that from someone who's lived on the border all his life.

And not a person on either side minds where you're from a jot apart from a few weeks a year.

In other words, the average length of a Roscommon championship season.:cool:

km79

seligehgit wrote: »

Maurice Deegan is the referee,the game is live on TG4.

Oh
The
Good
Lord

naughto

Mayo season tickets won't count for London game

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=252549&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Oldtree

naughto wrote: »

Mayo season tickets won't count for London game

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=252549&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

and also mentioned

will not count towards attendance percentages

megadodge

Rawhead wrote: »

The one positive from the Rossies rise is that the rest of the country is finally getting to see what we've had to deal with for years. I've no doubt they'll endear themselves to the rest of the island in the same way they've done here in Connacht.

Even by the low standards you find on the web, your posts on Roscommon are beyond pathetic.

seligehgit

Team out,3 changes from the Kerry game.Liking the look of it.

Robert Hennelly
Brendan Harrison
Ger Cafferkey
Chris Barrett
Lee Keegan
Colm Boyle
Shane Nally
Tom Parsons
Seamus O Shea
Diarmuid O Connor
Aidan O Shea
Conor Loftus
Evan Regan
Jason Doherty
Conor O Shea

Looks like the forecast is pretty poor for Sunday,it is likely to be quite a battle played at a championship intensity with all that's at stake.

naughto

Jason Doherty ff what's that about.
Put aos in at 11 and leave him there and have runners of him

km79

foorwwrd line doesn't inspire much confidence TBH
is Kevin mcl injured ? his free taking was awful against kerry but he was one of our better players on the day
Jason Doherty is lucky to hold his place too. was woeful against kerry

naughto

km79 wrote: »

foorwwrd line doesn't inspire much confidence TBH
is Kevin mcl injured ? his free taking was awful against kerry but he was one of our better players on the day
Jason Doherty is lucky to hold his place too. was woeful against kerry

He sh1ts his togs when he has to take the free's and it effects the rest of his game there after if and when he misses

naughto

km79 wrote: »

foorwwrd line doesn't inspire much confidence TBH
is Kevin mcl injured ? his free taking was awful against kerry but he was one of our better players on the day
Jason Doherty is lucky to hold his place too. was woeful against kerry

He sh1ts his togs when he has to take the free's and it effects the rest of his game there after if and when he misses

Always_Running

seligehgit wrote: »

Team out,3 changes from the Kerry game.Liking the look of it.

Robert Hennelly
Brendan Harrison
Ger Cafferkey
Chris Barrett
Lee Keegan
Colm Boyle
Shane Nally
Tom Parsons
Seamus O Shea
Diarmuid O Connor
Aidan O Shea
Conor Loftus
Evan Regan
Jason Doherty
Conor O Shea

Looks like the forecast is pretty poor for Sunday,it is likely to be quite a battle played at a championship intensity with all that's at stake.

I think its safe to say that team won't start. Two or three changes has been made before each game this year and Sunday will be no different.

seligehgit

km79 wrote: »

foorwwrd line doesn't inspire much confidence TBH
is Kevin mcl injured ? his free taking was awful against kerry but he was one of our better players on the day
Jason Doherty is lucky to hold his place too. was woeful against kerry

It appears to be the case that Kevin McLoughlin is indeed injured.In total agreement,Jason Doherty is very lucky to be starting based on form.

I'd be expecting a few changes before match day... Will Keith Higgins start or Lee Keegan resume in the corner with Patrick Durkan coming in?

PressRun

There'll definitely be changes made to that team before throw-in. I'd be willing to bet that Keith Higgins will start. I wouldn't be surprised to see them give another go to what they were trying out with him in the Donegal match before he got injured.

Fr Tod Umptious

I can see lots of ball going into AOS, a lot of it poor, a lot of frees out for barging/overcarrying.
Precious little else from the forwards.
A few long range frees scored from Hennelly, and about the same amount missed.

A good defensive display, but untimely a loss by a point or two.

Westernyelp

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I can see lots of ball going into AOS, a lot of it poor, a lot of frees out for barging/overcarrying.
Precious little else from the forwards.
A few long range frees scored from Hennelly, and about the same amount missed.

A good defensive display, but untimely a loss by a point or two.

Did someone eat your easter eggs?

Fr Tod Umptious

Westernyelp wrote: »

Did someone eat your easter eggs?

No, and I hope I'm wrong, but is that not what we have seen for the last few months ?

padd b1975

Minor League.

Mayo 2-12.
Galway 1-9.

That's a bit more like it.

Fowler87

Fair play to the minors. Great attitude to bounce back after that humiliation against Ros

megadodge

Fowler87 wrote: »

Fair play to the minors. Great attitude to bounce back after that humiliation against Ros

Is it true that there was some form of 'disagreement' that led to a lot of the minors not playing against Roscommon? The freakish result would seem to bear that out.

Syferus

megadodge wrote: »

Is it true that there was some form of 'disagreement' that led to a lot of the minors not playing against Roscommon? The freakish result would seem to bear that out.

I saw their U16 teams the last few years and they were average at best. I'm sure most teams are rotating players and I doubt Galway had their full championship side out today either.

Based on what I've seen the last few years it's Galway, Ros, Sligo and Mayo in that order. Mayo have the advantage of only having to play Leitrim to make a Connacht final though.

megadodge

Syferus wrote: »

I saw their U16 teams the last few years and they were average at best. I'm sure most teams are rotating players and I doubt Galway had their full championship side out today either.

Based on what I've seen the last few years it's Galway, Ros, Sligo and Mayo in that order. Mayo have the advantage of only having to play Leitrim to make a Connacht final though.

That's grand, but it doesn't answer my question.

davegrohl48

megadodge wrote: »

That's grand, but it doesn't answer my question.

A lot of Claremorris lads joined. A few lads moved off panel. Several switches.

km79

Pitch being inspected
Surface water in 5 spots in front of me

Fowler87

Freeman to start at 14 today

Fr Tod Umptious

km79 wrote: »

Pitch being inspected
Surface water in 5 spots in front of me

Is it not a bit late for an inspection ?

Surely that should have been done hours ago, new time.

Fr Tod Umptious

Fowler87 wrote: »

Freeman to start at 14 today

Interesting, have not seen him start in a good while if I'm not mistaken.

Fowler87

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Interesting, have not seen him start in a good while if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah he was abroad for 6 months.

km79

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Is it not a bit late for an inspection ?

Surely that should have been done hours ago, new time.

Ridiculous
Instead of walking around looking at the wet spots over and over again maybe they could fork them!
Anyway the showers have passed