Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

MaroonAndGreen

Major shock in the Senior Championship, Hollymount 3-3 Ballintubber 0-11

happyoutscan

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

Major shock in the Senior Championship, Hollymount 3-3 Ballintubber 0-11

Wouldn't consider it a major shock at all. Hollymount-Carramore are a very decent outfit. From what I hear they were the better team throughout and should have won by more.

MaroonAndGreen

happyoutscan wrote:

Wouldn't consider it a major shock at all. Hollymount-Carramore are a very decent outfit. From what I hear they were the better team throughout and should have won by more.

I'm sorry but that is a huge shock, Ballintubber haven't lost to anyone other than Castlebar or Breaffy in about 5 years, and Holly just promoted

TCDStudent1

Stoner wrote: »

Mayo ran them close last year.
Dublin lost two All Stars since.
Mayo have a couple of forwards that added to their attack so they appear stronger since.
That's it really imo they are some facts the rest is regurgitated opinion.

Exactly + Mayo clearly had management issues (regardless of rights and wrongs of it, issues existed). I'd suspect that this years management team are better equipped than last years to beat Dublin

happyoutscan

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

I'm sorry but that is a huge shock, Ballintubber haven't lost to anyone other than Castlebar or Breaffy in about 5 years, and Holly just promoted

I may have had my tinted glasses on!

Fr Tod Umptious

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Exactly + Mayo clearly had management issues (regardless of rights and wrongs of it, issues existed). I'd suspect that this years management team are better equipped than last years to beat Dublin

I'm not sure management had as much to do with the replay loss to Dublin as some would like to make out.

Seamus O Shea got himself black carded, Keegan, I think, dropped a shot into the keepers hands that would have put them 4 up, and by all accounts Barry Moran was dead on his feet by the time of his withdrawal.

So down two important men in the middle Mayo were over run by Dublin's superior squad depth, just like happened to Kerry last month.

Bunny Colvin

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I'm not sure management had as much to do with the replay loss to Dublin as some would like to make out.

Seamus O Shea got himself black carded, Keegan, I think, dropped a shot into the keepers hands that would have put them 4 up, and by all accounts Barry Moran was dead on his feet by the time of his withdrawal.

So down two important men in the middle Mayo were over run by Dublin's superior squad depth, just like happened to Kerry last month.

You could also say they persisted with AOS at 14 when we could all see it didn't work the first day. Despite Andy, what subs made impacts? In fact their lack of activity from the sideline was astonishing. Yes Dublin's depth won it for them but they actually made their luck by running their bench early. Holmes and Connelly on the other hand brought on Mark Ronaldson in the dying minutes when the game was up - 'that outta do it'...

Blackjack

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

You could also say they persisted with AOS at 14 when we could all see it didn't work the first day. Despite Andy, what subs made impacts? In fact their lack of activity from the sideline was astonishing. Yes Dublin's depth won it for them but they actually made their luck by running their bench early. Holmes and Connelly on the other hand brought on Mark Ronaldson in the dying minutes when the game was up - 'that outta do it'...

Yep. This. No plan B. Played Vaughan injured in the replay, some very curious substitutions and perhaps a lack of depth in the panel as far as midfielders were concerned - I believe Jason Gibbons was not in the panel?. Could have done with him as a sub in the replay. As for Keegan dropping a shot short, he was being well marshalled by Cian O'Sullivan while taking that shot if I remember correctly. Keegan still outscored his opposite number from play over both games, so didn't do too bad. Not sure why people keep referring to that dropped shot. as somehow being a point in that somehow lost the game for us. I remember there being more than that dropping short that day.

robbiezero

Blackjack wrote: »

Yep. This. No plan B. Played Vaughan injured in the replay, some very curious substitutions and perhaps a lack of depth in the panel as far as midfielders were concerned - I believe Jason Gibbons was not in the panel?. Could have done with him as a sub in the replay. As for Keegan dropping a shot short, he was being well marshalled by Cian O'Sullivan while taking that shot if I remember correctly. Keegan still outscored his opposite number from play over both games, so didn't do too bad. Not sure why people keep referring to that dropped shot. as somehow being a point in that somehow lost the game for us. I remember there being more than that dropping short that day.

If your 4 points up in a game with 15 minutes to go and lose by 7, it's nonsense to blame on one shot dropped short. If thats all it took for a team to collapse like that, they hardly deserve to win the game anyway.
I think it was more physical exhaustion, key players lost to black card, tiredness etc, sitting back too early to protect a lead and changing their style of play and losing momentum, but the lazy analysis always likes to point to one simple turning point.

Stoner

I think he didn't drop the shot short, he was partially blocked by a well executed last minute tackle unless I'm going mad.
B Moran was disappointing as was Parsons SOS was a huge loss.

The first game was a draw, it has to be recognised that some level of messing occurred between the two games regarding mayo. The recovery was not like Dublins, never mind the other stuff we heard went on, that won't happen again IMO.

PressRun

Yeah, a lot of emphasis seems to be placed on Leroy's missed shot. There's nothing to suggest that things would have panned out any differently if he'd gotten the shot over. There were plenty of other problems in how we played, problems that were evident in the drawn game and went unaddressed for the replay. That coupled with black card and what seemed like poor enough recovery from the drawn match made it all the more difficult. In any case, as most people probably know by now, there was, by all accounts, plenty of other stuff going on behind the scenes that makes it all the more surprising that they even made to a semi-final, let alone pushed Dublin to a replay.

That's all in the past now anyway and I'm looking forward to the coming summer. The Mayo News mentioned a few players carrying some knocks, which will hopefully be cleared up before the London match. I'm keen to get another look at Evan Regan too.

Fr Tod Umptious

Stoner wrote: »

As just posted earlier he didn't drop a shot short, he was partially blocked by a very well executed last minute tackle unless I'm going mad.
B Moran was disappointing as was Parsons SOS was a huge loss.

The first game was a draw, it has to be recognised that some level of messing occurred between the two games regarding mayo. The recovery was not like Dublins, never mind the other stuff we heard went on, that won't happen again IMO.

I only saw it once and that was live on the day from a good bit back so I'll not argue with you that it was blocked/deflected.

But losing Moran and O Shea were huge blows.

To beat Dublin a team has to be at their absolute physical peek, to be able to deal with the fresh players that Dublin can bring on, if you can weather that storm you may just be able to win it.

Cosmo Kramer

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I only saw it once and that was live on the day from a good bit back so I'll not argue with you that it was blocked/deflected.

But losing Moran and O Shea were huge blows.

To beat Dublin a team has to be at their absolute physical peek, to be able to deal with the fresh players that Dublin can bring on, if you can weather that storm you may just be able to win it.

Didn't John Casey confirm that Parsons played the second game with an injury (possibly a broken finger) as well, which limited his impact? We were ravaged with problems by the last 20 minutes of the replay and it showed. If a team is to take Dublin out this year it'll need to be the first day I think. The short turnaround coupled with Dublin's stronger panel depth, access to recovery facilities and geographical advantage (all based in the same city so easier to meet up more often at short notice for analysis and strategy sessions) makes them practically unbeatable in replays I think.

seligehgit

Interesting follow up article in the Mayo News ranking the top 40 clubs in the county.The Mitchels reign supreme in spite of their All Ireland heartbreak.

http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/27812-castlebar-mitchels-move-on-up

seligehgit

The Mayo ladies are Connaught champions...

Mayo 4-7 Galway 3-9.

statto25

seligehgit wrote: »

The Mayo ladies are Connaught champions...

Mayo 4-7 Galway 3-9.

That was the U16s. Fair play to them.

seligehgit

statto25 wrote: »

That was the U16s. Fair play to them.

Thanks statto25,yes it's great news

Stoner

Cosmo Kramer wrote:

Didn't John Casey confirm that Parsons played the second game with an injury (possibly a broken finger)

Yes I heard that, would be serious enough for him too, a lot of his strengths involve striking the ball when turning it over following diagonal runs into the tackle, he's a bit of a GAA David Batty IMO, he's very effective when in his game, strapping the fingers together to help fielding high balls wouldn't really be enough as it's not where he adds value IMO.

cocoman

London County Board have confirmed that ALL tickets for the Mayo game have now been sold.

I hope that there aren't too many here without a ticket but I suspect that there may be a few

Oldtree

Mayo-London ticket up for grabs on the weekly quiz Eir GAA website. :D
Just register and answer 5 questions correctly to be in with a chance. Get 5 goes to get 3 right.

They also have predictions for the championship section with AI tickets as a prize, last year anyways.

http://gaa.eir.ie/

seligehgit

Did anybody make it up to the open night?Totally slipped my mind.

PressRun

Didn't make it unfortunately, had to work. Nice one for the kids though.

mayo.mick

seligehgit wrote: »

Did anybody make it up to the open night?Totally slipped my mind.

Was there all right. Fair good crowd there despite the poor weather. Few kids there too!! Fair play to all the lads. Specially Robbie, he was late getting there due to travelling back from Dublin. Still came out to meet all the kids and insisted on getting seflies with them all!

seligehgit

Yes I saw some pictures on Facebook,the lads excelled themselves as always in their dealings with all comers.

PressRun

There were some nice pictures on Twitter too. Honestly, I've never heard a bad word about the lads and how they treat the young fans. Every one of them always seems to have loads of time for the little ones.

yop

RIP to Joe McDonagh,
As a kid this gave me goose bumps and even still the situation in which it was sung is spine tingling.....maybe someday we will have the opportunity for a rendition.

padd b1975

Connacht Junior champions.
Mayo 1-11.
Galway 0-12.

seligehgit

Leitrim 0-11 - 1-21 Roscommon

Interesting to see the highlights on The Sunday Game.

PressRun

Not too surprised by that result for Roscommon, tbh. They had to do the job today and prove a point, and they did that.

Kalyke

Nicky Rackard semi..... Mayo 1-18 - 2-11 Donegal ... . Armagh in the final!! Well done Mayo

cocoman

Is there many here going to London at the weekend?

mayo.mick

I'll be heading over on Friday morning

seligehgit

mayo.mick wrote: »

I'll be heading over on Friday morning

Have a blast!:)

seligehgit

Some injury concerns... Diarmuid O Connor appears to have been ruled out,Andy Moran and Chris Barrett struggling.Doubts re Seamie O Shea and Tom Parsons.


http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/oconnor-heads-mayo-injury-list-ahead-of-london-trip-34740876.html

Fr Tod Umptious

seligehgit wrote: »

Some injury concerns... Diarmuid O Connor appears to have been ruled out,Andy Moran and Chris Barrett struggling.Doubts re Seamie O Shea and Tom Parsons.


http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/oconnor-heads-mayo-injury-list-ahead-of-london-trip-34740876.html

With all due respect to London if it was any other game and we had that sort of injury list I'd be worried.

Hopefully they will be back for June 18th and there won't be any others.

martyos121

Better now than in a month's time, that's for sure. Dying to see what effect Cillian might have on the team as captain, always thought Higgins was a good one but Cillian definitely seems more vocal and his ability to perform under pressure sets a good example for all the lads.

naughto

cocoman wrote: »

Is there many here going to London at the weekend?

Flights booked and hotel sorted cant go now sick is not the work was looking forward to the beer and the junior b game on Sunday.
110 euro to change a name on the Ryanair flight is madness

PressRun

Nothing wrong with giving Diarmuid a break, imo. Though o hope that all those who are injured will still be able to play some part in the training camp the week after the match.

Bunny Colvin

cocoman wrote: »

Is there many here going to London at the weekend?

Heading Friday myself. It came around quick!

cocoman

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

Heading Friday myself. It came around quick!

Myself and 3 others going on Saturday morning so should be a good weekend.

Ascii

Is the game on the telebox? I know RTE have the clash of Armagh and Cavan. With the game on in Irish TV Park in Ruislip you would think would be showing it but just checked the guide there and they dont appear to be. Thoughts anyone?

mayo.mick

Ascii wrote: »

Is the game on the telebox? I know RTE have the clash of Armagh and Cavan. With the game on in Irish TV Park in Ruislip you would think would be showing it but just checked the guide there and they dont appear to be. Thoughts anyone?

London GAA have said that Irish tv cannot show the game as RTE and Sky have the rights to championship match's.

Anyone willing to periscope it?

cocoman

Ascii wrote: »

Is the game on the telebox? I know RTE have the clash of Armagh and Cavan. With the game on in Irish TV Park in Ruislip you would think would be showing it but just checked the guide there and they dont appear to be. Thoughts anyone?

I doubt it will be shown. Maybe highlights on Sunday Game. Live radio coverage on Mid West.

jeffred

http://www.mayonews.ie/news/27866-mayo-game-on-tv

This was in the Mayo News saying Irish Tv were trying to get the broadcasting rights but I wouldn't hold out too much hope.

Kalyke

http://www.hoganstand.com/Mayo/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=255671

PressRun

Team to play London:

http://mayogaa.com/news/10006551/mayo_senior_football_team_v_london

naughto

Poor full back line bar Higgins but then again he has to give them all a run

PressRun

Brendan Harrison had a good league and was one of our better players throughout that competition, imo. We haven't seen a whole lot of Kevin Keane so far this year, so I'm willing to wait and see how he gets on.

Loafing Oaf

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

With all due respect to London if it was any other game and we had that sort of injury list I'd be worried.

Yeah, cos it would be inconceivable for a Mayo team with a hotshot new manager to run into trouble in Ruislip...

Fr Tod Umptious

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Yeah, cos it would be inconceivable for a Mayo team with a hotshot new manager to run into trouble in Ruislip...

In 2016 it certainly would be.