Calls for rainbow-coloured pedestrian paths in Dublin

darkpagandeath

daithi84 wrote: »

Seriously! Are you kidding me?

Nope, Oh I forgot Ireland has a history of lawyers obeying the spirit of the law and would take this symbol of tolerance as what it is road markings.... Oh wait I was not born 15 years ago and did not come down in the last shower...

OldNotWIse

daithi84 wrote: »

Seriously! Are you kidding me?

We do have a serious claim culture in Ireland, I see no issue with this poster's point.

darkpagandeath

daithi84 wrote: »

Then comes the rapture, all over a rainbow pedestrian crossing! :rolleyes:

I'm not a Christian so what's ones point again ?

daithi84

OldNotWIse wrote: »

We do have a serious claim culture in Ireland, I see no issue with this poster's point.

As opposed to America where everyone is sued left right and centre and multiple rainbow crossings there!

cgcsb

Jimoslimos wrote: »

There must be some variation on Godwin's Law by which every discussion here, no matter the topic, will invariably end up with a reference to the "homeless".

As if we are forbidden from doing anything certain sectors are opposed to until there is no more homelessness, an impossibility in a capitalist society that commoditizes homes.

daithi84

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I'm not a Christian so what's ones point again ?

I think you got my point! Armageddon then!

OldNotWIse

daithi84 wrote: »

As opposed to America where everyone is sued left right and centre and multiple rainbow crossings there!

Simply agreeing with the poster that we have a claim culture. Not trying to draw any correlation between claims and rainbows :pac:

daithi84

OldNotWIse wrote: »

Simply agreeing with the poster that we have a claim culture. Not trying to draw any correlation between claims and rainbows :pac:

Understood. but the original commenter was!

OldNotWIse

Ah feck my picture wont upload, something about the size of it not being gay enough.

OldNotWIse

daithi84 wrote: »

Understood. but the original commenter was!

Oh, well by all means address your post to him!

darkpagandeath

daithi84 wrote: »

I think you got my point! Armageddon then!

Still a Christian thing..

daithi84

OldNotWIse wrote: »

Oh, well by all means address your post to him!

Are you contributing to this debate or are you going the smart ass route now

daithi84

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Still a Christian thing..

haha. END OF THE WORLD (Secular edition)

That ok

darkpagandeath

daithi84 wrote: »

haha. END OF THE WORLD (Secular edition)

That ok

cthulhu end times

Call Me Jimmy

At least our anti-racism roads are already built

cgcsb

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I would prefer my street marking to remain the same for safety reasons and not introduce markings that are none standard. On a side note the litigious nature Of Ireland I would wager it would not take long for someone to get run over and the car driver getting off due to none standard marking.

are you suggesting a motorist would take it upon themselves to run a red light and run over a pedestrian because the road was a different colour, and do you believe a court would accept the explanation for running a red light.

OldGoat

daithi84 wrote: »

Then comes the rapture, all over a rainbow pedestrian crossing! :rolleyes:

The last couple of raptures have been really disappointing.

My problem is not with the road-marking in and of themselves, it's the cynical bandwaggoning of a junior politician for making the suggestion itself. This and the commercialism of what was once a proud movement leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
Next years Pride - you won't see a queer for the number of politicians and corporate floats parading over the rainbows on the road. That is what we stand to lose if we allow the ideals of PRIDE to be cheapened with such grubby little gestures.

Cuban Pete

JaCrispy wrote: »

This is quite possibly the most ridiculous proposal I have ever heard. It's got to be a joke.

Healthcare in a heap, homelessness at an all time high, still borrowing billions a year etc.......yeah but lets spend thousands painting rainbow fooking footpaths.

Yeah because a few thousand euro would sort out healthcare, homelessness and our national debt.

DyldeBrill

Kev W wrote: »

Why does there have to be a "need"? It's a bit of colour, that's all.

Why does there need to be colour...and rainbows??

Kev W

DyldeBrill wrote: »

Why does there need to be colour...and rainbows??

I can't help but picture a villain in a Care Bears movie when I read that..

JaCrispy

Cuban Pete wrote: »

Yeah because a few thousand euro would sort out healthcare, homelessness and our national debt.

Of course not. But sure it's only in the thousands. That doesn't really matter. :rolleyes:

DyldeBrill

Kev W wrote: »

I can't help but picture a villain in a Care Bears movie when I read that..

Picture away....just does't seem to serve any purpose in my eyes. It just wouldn't be visually appealing to me.

kazamo

Cuban Pete wrote: »

Yeah because a few thousand euro would sort out healthcare, homelessness and our national debt.

You're dead right it wouldn't sort out any of those issues.
But if we have a few thousand to spend, wouldn't it be better to give it to Brother Kevin of the Capuchin Day Centre and help those less fortunate(for whatever reason) than ourselves.

To me, last May's referendum was about fairness and equality.
Would it not be nice to extend that to others rather than painting a few pedestrian crossings a different colour so we can feel good about ourselves.
I choose food over paint anytime.

Cuban Pete

JaCrispy wrote: »

Of course not. But sure it's only in the thousands. That doesn't really matter. :rolleyes:

Hey you're the one that intimated it'd solve all our problems. Not my fault you don't understand the basics of government finances.

sashafierce

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daithi84

kazamo wrote: »

You're dead right it wouldn't sort out any of those issues.
But if we have a few thousand to spend, wouldn't it be better to give it to Brother Kevin of the Capuchin Day Centre and help those less fortunate(for whatever reason) than ourselves.

To me, last May's referendum was about fairness and equality.
Would it not be nice to extend that to others rather than painting a few pedestrian crossings a different colour so we can feel good about ourselves.
I choose food over paint anytime.

The same argument could be given to wasting millions on 1916 celebrations. Though you would be shot down for suggesting it.

If they are looking for donations for the crossings I would gladly contribute. Though i do believe funding is put aside for public realm projects so i dont see why this shouldn't be included under that remit.

daithi84

OldGoat wrote: »

The last couple of raptures have been really disappointing.

My problem is not with the road-marking in and of themselves, it's the cynical bandwaggoning of a junior politician for making the suggestion itself. This and the commercialism of what was once a proud movement leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
Next years Pride - you won't see a queer for the number of politicians and corporate floats parading over the rainbows on the road. That is what we stand to lose if we allow the ideals of PRIDE to be cheapened with such grubby little gestures.

To me its not commercialisation its a nice momento of the progress the LGBT community has come. If there are economic benefits to this project I am totally on board as the tourism industry could use it.

I get your point about the politicians jumping on a band wagon, but to be honest id rather have politicians desperately try get my vote than in the past where gay people were treated as the scum of the earth. To me the referendum result was not the result of politicians or a party but a victory from the decency of Irish people. My vote is certainly not bought.

PS "won't see a queer" - really!!

kazamo

daithi84 wrote: »

The same argument could be given to wasting millions on 1916 celebrations. Though you would be shot down for suggesting it.

If they are looking for donations for the crossings I would gladly contribute. Though i do believe funding is put aside for public realm projects so i dont see why this shouldn't be included under that remit.

I have the same attitude towards 1916 commerations also.
Just a political photo op which ignores the major upheaval since 2008 and the lack of reform to ensure we don't repeat that mistake.

My family friends and work colleagues know my views on this and haven't been shot......yet

harry Bailey esq

Be some laugh during magic mushroom season all the same

DyldeBrill

daithi84 wrote: »

The same argument could be given to wasting millions on 1916 celebrations. Though you would be shot down for suggesting it.

If they are looking for donations for the crossings I would gladly contribute. Though i do believe funding is put aside for public realm projects so i dont see why this shouldn't be included under that remit.

I'm sorry but you can't compare rainbow coloured crossings to the 1916 rising.

Kev W

DyldeBrill wrote: »

I'm sorry but you can't compare rainbow coloured crossings to the 1916 rising.

Yeah, one of them involved people standing up to end centuries of oppression and the other... um...

daithi84

DyldeBrill wrote: »

I'm sorry but you can't compare rainbow coloured crossings to the 1916 rising.

Of course you can! Millions are being wasted on these "celebrations" which will turn into nothing but a mad Ra fest for hooligans.

ixoy

DyldeBrill wrote: »

I'm sorry but you can't compare rainbow coloured crossings to the 1916 rising.

Of course not. Those celebrations will cost far more and, by the logic of some, could help out a lot with homelessness, debt, etc. As could any investment in culture, arts, etc made by any government department.

DyldeBrill

Kev W wrote: »

Yeah, one of them involved people standing up to end centuries of oppression and the other... um...

For the record, I voted yes.

But this thread has nothing to do with oppression of any sort. We're talking rainbow coloured crossings here for crying out loud. I believe the 1916 celebrations are more important than a few rainbows, yes.

DyldeBrill

daithi84 wrote: »

Of course you can! Millions are being wasted on these "celebrations" which will turn into nothing but a mad Ra fest for hooligans.

You still have no grounds in comparing a historical date to rainbows. I'm not talking about the money being spent I'm talking about the celebration itself.

Kev W

DyldeBrill wrote: »

You still have no grounds in comparing a historical date to rainbows. I'm not talking about the money being spent I'm talking about the celebration itself.

I can't help but think you're being facetious here. The passing of the SSM referendum is also a historical date.

JaCrispy

Cuban Pete wrote: »

Hey you're the one that intimated it'd solve all our problems. Not my fault you don't understand the basics of government finances.

Are you intimating that until a time where we have the money to fully fix all our problems then we shouldn't put any money towards them? And you're the one lecturing me on government finances. :D:D

Kev W

DyldeBrill wrote: »

For the record, I voted yes.

For the record, nobody asked.

DyldeBrill wrote: »

But this thread has nothing to do with oppression of any sort. We're talking rainbow coloured crossings here for crying out loud. I believe the 1916 celebrations are more important than a few rainbows, yes.

Of course it does.

OldNotWIse

daithi84 wrote: »

Are you contributing to this debate or are you going the smart ass route now

Absolutely not going the smart áss route, apologies if I think that you should direct your replies to the actual poster you are replying to.

DyldeBrill

Kev W wrote: »

I can't help but think you're being facetious here. The passing of the SSM referendum is also a historical date.

Of course it is...and it was a step in the right direction for this country..but why must everything refer back to the SSM? Again, I'm opposed to having rainbow coloured crossing, not the SSM.

OldGoat

daithi84 wrote: »

To me its not commercialisation its a nice momento of the progress the LGBT community has come. If there are economic benefits to this project I am totally on board as the tourism industry could use it.

I get your point about the politicians jumping on a band wagon, but to be honest id rather have politicians desperately try get my vote than in the past where gay people were treated as the scum of the earth. To me the referendum result was not the result of politicians or a party but a victory from the decency of Irish people. My vote is certainly not bought.

PS "won't see a queer" - really!!

Yeah, the "won't see a queer*" thing was hyperbole but you get my meaning. The Pride marches of the last 30 odd years were an opportunity for queers and their supporters to get recognition. Those early years were rough and it's those early pioneer years marchers and supporters that I'm trying to make the point for.
I'm too cynical, sceptic and old-school to blithely let some upstart politician still wet behind the ears try to steal the limelight from those who have been making their voices heard from a time before most of AH'ers were born.
It feels like a condescending pat on the back rather than a genuine gesture.

If there is to be a memorial to mark the occasion then let it come from the community and gain government backing rather then the other way around.

*If your issue is with me using the term 'queer' I'm unapologetic and I'll fight you for it. I'm way too old and way to comfortable with queers and queens to change my ways

DyldeBrill

Kev W wrote: »

For the record, nobody asked.



Of course it does.

For the record, I feel like I need to with you referencing back to the SSM.....to which my vote would prove relevant.

Mind telling me what this thread is about then...oppression, SSM or the rainbow coloured paths?

Kev W

DyldeBrill wrote: »

Of course it is...and it was a step in the right direction for this country..but why must everything refer back to the SSM? Again, I'm opposed to having rainbow coloured crossing, not the SSM.

How do the rainbow coloured crossings qualify as "everything"?

Kev W

DyldeBrill wrote: »

For the record, I feel like I need to with you referencing back to the SSM.....to which my vote would prove relevant.

Mind telling me what this thread is about then...oppression, SSM or the rainbow coloured paths?

All of the above.

DyldeBrill

Kev W wrote: »

How do the rainbow coloured crossings qualify as "everything"?

I'm talking about you referencing it.....not the rainbow crossings.

DyldeBrill

Kev W wrote: »

All of the above.

We'll agree to disagree....I musta read the heading to this thread wrong.

Kev W

DyldeBrill wrote: »

We'll agree to disagree....I musta read the heading to this thread wrong.

Disagree to agree to disagree.

The thread is about The paths, which are being proposed because of the success of the SSM referendum, which was needed because of the oppression of gay people in this country.

DyldeBrill

Kev W wrote: »

Disagree to agree to disagree.

The thread is about The paths, which are being proposed because of the success of the SSM referendum, which was needed because of the oppression of gay people in this country.

We had the SSM referendum, it was passed. It's been a worldwide siccess that's spurred other countries to follow suit but painting rainbow crossings is something that I want to see. I don't see the need for it to be done.

Kev W

DyldeBrill wrote: »

We had the SSM referendum, it was passed. It's been a worldwide siccess that's spurred other countries to follow suit but painting rainbow crossings is something that I want to see. I don't see the need for it to be done.

It's still not about "need", however many times you bring it up. Next time you say you don't see the "need" it still won't be about that.

DyldeBrill

Kev W wrote: »

It's still not about "need", however many times you bring it up. Next time you say you don't see the "need" it still won't be about that.

To my knowledge I've brought it up once....but for me its all about the need. I don't want something done for the sake of it. As well as that it has nothing to add and holds no contributing factors for me or the proposed crossroads.