AROUND THE HORN! 2015 - Discuss Thread

gerrybbadd

Stereomaniac wrote: »

I'm sure Gerry would have only given my own answer 4 out of 10 at best if he read it, ha ha.

I did read it dude, i've read them all so far.

gotta check out the competition!

thebostoncrab

Nicely debated, wish we had more than 2 responses as I think we could keep going, got plenty to say in defence of my booking on your last post!

gerrybbadd

Curses!

Damn you Beaker, you've foiled me! Avenged your loss from last year, and in devastating fashion.

Stereomaniac

Hard luck Gerry. I only got a chance to read the responses from you both there now. I thought your answer was pretty good. But then again, I'm a bit of a mark for Dave Finaly too.

gerrybbadd

I'm pretty disappointed if i'm honest.

I think maybe I put too much work into it. There was a lot of content there. I'll have to really think it through, if i'll bother entering next year

Stereomaniac

I know man, it's very hard when you don't make it out of the round after writing so much stuff. Don't worry though because I found your answer very good and quite exciting if it happened.

beakerjoe

I really wasn't expecting that, I was sure it was going to be a tight affair and assumed Id be edged out by a great argument by Gerry to a point were I felt his argument was better than mine. Id love to hear voters thoughts on the match as I feel the voting result doesn't tell the story of a close debate in terms of effort and reasoning.

Great game Gerry....Our rubber match is next year yeah?

Bounty Hunter

gerrybbadd wrote: »

I'm pretty disappointed if i'm honest.

I think maybe I put too much work into it. There was a lot of content there. I'll have to really think it through, if i'll bother entering next year

It's an odd one tbh as I'd say yours was far more interesting but by going so much more outside the box than Joe you left yourself open to making more mistakes with your proposal that Joe could critique and perhaps he benefited from keeping it more simple.

Maybe people don't want to see Sheamus in the mania main event although it was a more interesting pitch for example.

personally I kinda wish I had not made the first response vs MNG as he was very good at countering and re-phrasing what should be considered important by the reader (voter) and it's very hard if you don't get the last word and a chance to respond to that kinda thing.

gerrybbadd

beakerjoe wrote: »

I really wasn't expecting that, I was sure it was going to be a tight affair and assumed Id be edged out by a great argument by Gerry to a point were I felt his argument was better than mine. Id love to hear voters thoughts on the match as I feel the voting result doesn't tell the story of a close debate in terms of effort and reasoning.

Great game Gerry....Our rubber match is next year yeah?

Perhaps... I might have to go away and rebuild myself - come back a new warrior. Might even turn heel!

beakerjoe

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Perhaps... I might have to go away and rebuild myself - come back a new warrior. Might even turn heel!

Ill be around at the Boards PW draft if you fancy a surprise appearance

Omackeral

Bounty Hunter
Mr Nice Guy

Mr Nice Guy
Omackeral

Omackeral
Imnotthehulk

Finalist 1
Finalist 2

gerrybbadd
beakerjoe

beakerjoe
Semi Finalist 4

Cheese Wagstaff
thebostoncrab

Stereomaniac

CUZ IT'S A DEADLY GAME!!!!

beakerjoe

12 Votes so far in thebostoncrabs match with Cheese Wagstaff, get voting peeps if you havent already.

The first Semi Final between Omackeral and Mr Nice Guy will be up tomorrow and Bounty Hunter will throw the other Semi final up between me and the winner of the above Q-Final.

I must say there's been so fantastic debates so far and some utterly brilliant answers from this years competitors. Take a bow you guys!

beakerjoe

16 votes so far in the final Quarter Final, get voting if you haven't already.

beakerjoe

1st Semi Final is up, and voting is running smothly in the last QF.

Mr.Nice Guy

Very interesting question! Have a few names floating about. Gonna ponder it a little more before I go with my choice.

beakerjoe

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Very interesting question! Have a few names floating about. Gonna ponder it a little more before I go with my choice.

Youve been great with Celebs in the draft, Im sure you'll figure something out

Bounty Hunter

tis almost the opposite of the celeb round in the draft this time as in that (usually) they have to have had some involvement with the WWE to be eligible but not here

beakerjoe

Heres how each match has faired so far.

The match with most votes so far was the match between Mr Nice Guy and Stereomaniac in the first round with 27 votes, with MNG also getting the most votes in one match by getting 22 votes in the mentioned match.

The closest match was Lord TSC and GerryBbadd from the first round, with only 2 votes in it when it closed, though MrKiscool vs Omackeral had the same margin, with fewer total votes.

First Round

MATCH 1: Bounty Hunter vs SureWhyWouldntYa

Votes = 23 : BH 15 - SYWY 8

MATCH 2: Mr Nice Guy vs Stereomaniac

Votes = 27 : MNG 22 - SM 05

MATCH 3 : Omackeral vs MrKIsCool

Votes = 12 : OM 07 - MRK 05

MATCH 4 : ImnottheHulk vs JP Liz

Votes : 17 : INTH 12 - JPL 05

MATCH 5 : Lord TSC vs GerryBBadd

Votes = 20 : LTSC 09 - GBB 11

MATCH 6 : BeakerJoe versus HashtagHeel

Votes = 16 : BJ 10 - HH 06

MATCH 7 : BrianRegan vs Cheese Wagstaff

Votes = 18 : BR 07 - CW 11

MATCH 8 : thebostoncrab versus Winnie The Poo

Votes = TBC 10 - WTP 06

Quarter Finals

MATCH 1: Bounty Hunter vs Mr Nice Guy

Votes = 23 : BH 09 - MNG 14

MATCH 2 : Omackeral versus ImnottheHulk

Votes = 15 : OM 12 - IMTH 03

MATCH 3: beakerjoe versus GerryBBadd

Votes = 18 : BJ 13 - GBB 05

Omackeral

I have my celebrity diva chosen, just trying to decide between two options of who she should face.

beakerjoe

Omackeral wrote: »

I have my celebrity diva chosen, just trying to decide between two options of who she should face.

keep mind the celeb must not have been involved previously with WWE in any way

Omackeral

beakerjoe wrote: »

keep mind the celeb must not have been involved previously with WWE in any way

I got that pal, thanks.

connemara man

Great question well matched by two great answers looking forward to this!

The standard of this competition has been great. Thanks to everyone that has entered for some great reads

Sirsok

Immediately thought serena Williams myself! Ten I thought Ellen Degreneress, she could come in with the rock, manage him for a match against trips with Steph. She has such a huge reach and by connecting with an a lister like the rock would entice a lot more of her fans to watch the product

thebostoncrab

Thought I had lost that after your last rebuttal if I'm being completely honest! Nicely debated, really enjoyed that one

beakerjoe

Congrats TBC on making it through to the Semi Final in an extremely well debated encounter with Cheese Wagstaff, ending 16 votes to 9 in favor of TBC.

Both had completely different ideas and both poked many holes in eachothers answers. Great game guys.

Bounty Hunter shall be throwing up the next match for The Crab Man as his opponent is myself. I look forward to a good question and a hard battle.

JP Liz V1

I would have picked actress Taraji P. Henson (Empire and Person of Interest) as female celebrity for WM maybe pairing her with PTP

Omackeral

Bounty Hunter
Mr Nice Guy

Mr Nice Guy
Omackeral

Omackeral
Imnotthehulk

Finalist 1
Finalist 2

gerrybbadd
beakerjoe

beakerjoe
thebostoncrab

Cheese Wagstaff
thebostoncrab

Bounty Hunter

I'll throw the next Semi up most likely in a few hours, so it'l be there tonight if your free/ eager to get the first reply in

Bounty Hunter

Scratch that (got a bit of unexpected time right after posting the above) it's up.

beakerjoe

About the question, just so Im sure, it can be any gimmick previously used in WWE, whether successful or dire?

And does the gimmick have to be a complete change from the choosen wrestler current gimmick?

Bounty Hunter

beakerjoe wrote: »

About the question, just so Im sure, it can be any gimmick previously used in WWE, whether successful or dire?

yup

who knows given to a different person and now in a different era some dire gimmick's could have succeeded. So yes you can make John Cena 2015s Shockmaster!

and re-the second part that you must have quickly edited in. It can be as much of a change as you want I guess but I dunno if it would be in the spirit of the thing to barey change someone and I dunno if i'd vote for you over the other person if thats what you did but then again I guess it'd depend on how fitting your choice was, how you did it and what tweaks you made to their character.

beakerjoe

Ok so theres plenty of scope,

Now do I take a succesful gimmick and place it on someone who needs a change

or

Do I take a crap gimmick and make it work with a star?

Ive much to ponder

thebostoncrab

Same, gonna take my time here if I'm honest, have a few different ideas and want to pick the best one possible

beakerjoe

thebostoncrab wrote: »

Same, gonna take my time here if I'm honest, have a few different ideas and want to pick the best one possible

My problem with the question is that i cant find a gimmick tochoose nor a wrestler that suits.

Any wrestler I think of, Im having trouble thinking of a suitable gimmick and any gimmick I come up with, Im having problems fitting it to a wrestler.

Its a noodle scratcher.

Omackeral

My god my opponent talks like a robot!! I'll get my final shout up tomorrow, looking forward to it.

Bounty Hunter

Omackeral wrote: »

My god my opponent talks like a robot!! I'll get my final shout up tomorrow, looking forward to it.

ha he's a tough one eh!

two really interesting answers in that Semi, looking forward to the no doubt very diverse answers we will get in the second one too.

beakerjoe

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

ha he's a tough one eh!

two really interesting answers in that Semi, looking forward to the no doubt very diverse answers we will get in the second one too.

I think Ive settled on a gimmick and the wrestler who will take over it for the modern day audience.

Ive had plenty of bonkers ideas that I fear I may regret choosing.

Mr.Nice Guy

Omackeral wrote: »

My god my opponent talks like a robot!! I'll get my final shout up tomorrow, looking forward to it.

Ha, I'm knackered after it. And now I have to go and add up the points for the Fantasy League game. I should get a good night's sleep at least.

Bounty Hunter

beakerjoe wrote: »

I think Ive settled on a gimmick and the wrestler who will take over it for the modern day audience.

Ive had plenty of bonkers ideas that I fear I may regret choosing.

hope you share them here after youve both picked think this question could have had some mad alternative ideas although till youve chosen I can only mention ones you'd never pick... Hustle, Loyalty and Crush America, it's Soviet Cena!

Omackeral

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Ha, I'm knackered after it. And now I have to go and add up the points for the Fantasy League game. I should get a good night's sleep at least.

My last reply is up champ.

Mr.Nice Guy

Just posted up my last rebuttal.

Bounty Hunter

Jaysus just reading those last 2 responses was exhausting I can't imagine writing them. tis a tough one I think I had been won over but then MNG had the last word again and I've learned from my bout with him just how dangerous that can be.

if it had been me and not him though...

Think although she has been a little out of the spotlight in recent years I'd have gone with Laila Ali for this one myself. tie her appearance into promoting the Muhammad Ali center (Charity mostly linked with Parkinsons iirc), big up her dads own history with WWE and wrestling in general (fought Antoni Inoki for example) and that she retired undefeated from a combat sport (boxing obviously) so should be able to handle herself in ring etc. Could work either in the Divas section or just fill the spot that Rousey probably would have had The Rock/Ali vs HHH/Steph

Omackeral

Debating against someone like MNG makes me wish I could put up more than two replies. He really hones in on your arguments and I have to say he's been a great opponent.

Mr.Nice Guy

Omackeral wrote: »

Debating against someone like MNG makes me wish I could put up more than two replies. He really hones in on your arguments and I have to say he's been a great opponent.

Thanks, that's very decent of you. You have been a great opponent yourself.

Omackeral

Is there a poll going up for the completed semi final?

Bounty Hunter

Would assume Beaker will next time he's on. I could do it but no rush I guess seeing as the other Semi hasn't seen either competitor post responses yet (tis the weekend slowdown) anyway and now people have longer to read your arguements before the thread is bumped with the addition of the poll.

Omackeral

Ah cool, was just wondering cos polls have gone up during some matches. Thought it may have slipped the mind maybe.

beakerjoe

Busy weekend so wasnt able to check in on my match or add teh poll. In hindsight its probably best to throw the poll up now after the weekend anyway with more eyes on the site after a busy weekend.

beakerjoe

Answer up, your move crabbie