Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

billymitchell

Have we sold Suso or loaned him out?

Caovyn Lineah

billymitchell wrote: »

Have we sd Suso or loaned him out?

He's gone unfortunately.

Hopefully Teixeira starts to get a look in now though.

mosstin

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

How many seasons would you give him if he consistently finished 5th/6th?

Seriously? Just stop, eh?

Talisman

mudstack wrote: »

7th was about right.

But being fifth was on par.

Caovyn Lineah

mosstin wrote: »

Seriously? Just stop, eh?

Just stop what?

I'm having a discussion with someone else, feel free to get involved.

JohnDaniels

Why Jurgen Klopp and Liverpool will be a perfect match

“Ever watched a porn movie?” the interviewer asked.

“Yes,” Jürgen Klopp replied immediately.

The name of the porn movie Klopp watched, when he was about 15 or 16, was Josefine Mutzenbacher: wie sie wirklich war (Josefine Mutzenbacher: how she really was). The film traces the sexual awakening of a young Austrian girl in the 19th century, from an innocent child to a high‑class Viennese prostitute. “I don’t remember the plot,” Klopp admitted, “but it got right down to business.”

The interesting point to make here is not the fact that Klopp once watched a blue movie, but that when he was asked about it an interview with a Cologne radio station last year, he admitted it.

Freely. Instantly. With details. Put virtually any other manager in world football in that situation – Mark Hughes, Manuel Pellegrini, André Villas-Boas – and the strong likelihood is that, within a matter of seconds, you will be pointing your microphone at an empty chair.

mudstack

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/10/05/know-all-liverpool-fan-hired-as-replacement-for-rodgers/

Sounds about right.

JohnDaniels

Paul Joyce - "JURGEN KLOPP will become Liverpool manager by the end of this week"

~Rebel~

mudstack wrote: »

Lovren, Balotelli, Markovic are crap and wouldn't get near other top 4/5 teams. Lallana was injured most of the season. Lambert was out of his depth and isn't doing great now either.

I can't be sure how involved he was in what transfers but time to be realistic.
Some fans hero worship players who are not good enough and blame the manager for not getting the best out of them.

7th was about right.

Way to completely, completely ignore the point.

Rodgers didn't get the best out of the players he had. All of the names you mentioned have played better at other clubs under other managers. Doesn't matter how good or bad you think they are - they have all performed objectively better under other managers, therefore Rodgers didn't get the best out of them.

corwill

JohnDaniels wrote: »

Why Jurgen Klopp and Liverpool will be a perfect match

Am I really expected to believe the demented git has only watched one, and not in over 30 years?

I call stier scheiße.

rob316

rob316 wrote: »

....
All the writing off of him and taking the piss before he kicked a ball summed up some of the spoilt brats of the fan base.

Ings, some described him as a "meh" signing iirc.

SlickRic

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

How many seasons would you give him if he consistently finished 5th/6th?

Shock horror, you ask an annoying hypothetical question.

I don't know how long I'd give him because there are a mountain of variables to your question.

Will Klopp have a top 3 player in the world on his books?
Will Klopp have the easiest FA Cup run in recent history to navigate?
What sort of results will he get in European competition?
Will he alienate certain players for no discernable reason?

Caovyn Lineah

SlickRic wrote: »

Shock horror, you ask an annoying hypothetical question.

I don't know how long I'd give him because there are a mountain of variables to your question.

Will Klopp have a top 3 player in the world on his books?
Will Klopp have the easiest FA Cup run in recent history to navigate?
What sort of results will he get in European competition?
Will he alienate certain players for no discernable reason?

I wasn't comparing him to Rodgers but well done to you for all that hyperbole. I asked a simple question.

Kerrigooney

I'm just looking forward to seeing our players playing in their correct positions.

That'll do me for a start.

Caovyn Lineah

Kerrigooney wrote: »

I'm just looking forward to seeing our players playing in their correct positions.

That'll do me for a start.

Just no Balotelli next season and I'll be happy.

magma69

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

I wasn't comparing him to Rodgers but well done to you for all that hyperbole. I asked a simple question.

You've asked that very same question several times recently and you've been met with the same reasonable answer every single time, yet you seem to ignore the answer and continue asking that question as if it's some sort of valid point. Give it a rest, eh.

Potential Underachiever

Something very shocking just dawned on me, Klopp has not signed yet! Everyone is talking as if he has and it had me sucked in to looking up Klopp gifs etc.

Until he's leaning we should relax because if it's some other joker hired then I'll riot!

Caovyn Lineah

magma69 wrote: »

You've asked that very same question several times recently and you've been met with the same reasonable answer every single time, yet you seem to ignore the answer and continue asking that question as if it's some sort of valid point. Give it a rest, eh.

The point of me asking was because I rank the league as priority, if he finishes 5th/6th for a few seasons in a row then IMO no amount of cup runs will save him.

happyoutscan

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Just no Balotelli next season and I'll be happy.

Klopp would probably man-manage Balotelli better then BR did.

Kerrigooney

Kerrigooney wrote: »

I'm just looking forward to seeing our players playing in their correct positions.

That'll do me for a start.

Some of them probably forget where their correct positions are!

Potential Underachiever

happyoutscan wrote: »

Klopp would probably man-manage Balotelli better then BR did.

He's not a miracle worker!

mudstack

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Way to completely, completely ignore the point.

Rodgers didn't get the best out of the players he had. All of the names you mentioned have played better at other clubs under other managers. Doesn't matter how good or bad you think they are - they have all performed objectively better under other managers, therefore Rodgers didn't get the best out of them.

I addressed the point, you just didn't like the answer. The players you mentioned are crap in my opinion, and the position in the league was right in my opinion. I'm not blinded by hero worshipping, I seen them play.

I've no interest in continuing this.

JohnDaniels

Not as much stock put in Paul Joyce in this thread? They have gone into meltdown over on rawk since his article like it is an iron clad done deal.

not yet

happyoutscan wrote: »

Klopp would probably man-manage Balotelli better then BR did.

I Don't think Jesus Christ could man manage that loop the loop..

JohnDaniels

JohnDaniels wrote: »

Not as much stock put in Paul Joyce in this thread? They have gone into meltdown over on rawk since his article like it is an iron clad done deal.

You can still get 1/4 on Klopp. Far from a done deal yet

Caovyn Lineah

happyoutscan wrote: »

Klopp would probably man-manage Balotelli better then BR did.

Mourinho couldn't do it.

Damien360

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

The point of me asking was because I rank the league as priority, if he finishes 5th/6th for a few seasons in a row then IMO no amount of cup runs will save him.

This is a new slant for you. Rodgers could do no wrong at all. He was going to rescue his position at some point according to the unending narrative. Now 5th for a few seasons is a death knell.

On a side note : what happens if we don't get Klopp ?

Mr Alan

SlickRic wrote: »

His reign would be met with less trepidation by me because he's a proven winner.

He'd also get more leeway than Rodgers did because he's a proven winner.

It'd be an entirely different appointment to the Rodgers one.

The second sentence is hugely important here

We know his ceiling is awesomeness - this appointment will really unite any fans with a clue.

Hollister11

Seems like klopp is expected to be named manager in the next few days.

Caovyn Lineah

Damien360 wrote: »

This is a new slant for you. Rodgers could do no wrong at all. He was going to rescue his position at some point according to the unending narrative. Now 5th for a few seasons is a death knell.

On a side note : what happens if we don't get Klopp ?

I said I believed he could turn it around, I never stated he WOULD.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

He's not a miracle worker!

would still be worth the entettainment!

Caovyn Lineah

Mr Alan wrote: »

The second sentence is hugely important here

We know his ceiling is awesomeness - this appointment will really unite any fans with a clue.

Until results go bad(which will happen) and the self entitled fans rear their heads again.

Gbear

SlickRic wrote: »

Will he alienate certain players for no discernable reason?

Well this one is a yes.

It is for pretty much every manager.

It's easy to say "look at all this weird **** Rodgers does - I can't wait until he's replaced by someone who doesn't do that".

But they all do it. They've all got weird apparent blind spots.

Nobodie's perfect but, perhaps more importantly, we never have all the information about what's going on in the squad.

So it'll turn out that, despite the whole German thing and his apparent suitability in terms of quality and application, Firmino will get the boot next summer.

We'll go ape**** but we'll never know that he was actually a coke-head or used to boot cats down the road for the craic.

SlickRic

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Until results go bad(which will happen) and the self entitled fans rear their heads again.

Patience will not be endless, but we'd know we have a proven winner, so he'd get a little more leeway.

Do you not think that's logical? You've stated the above a few times and it seems you don't.

Streetwalker

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Mourinho couldn't do it.

What's that now win a European trophy with Chelsea like Rafa did

Fowler87

Unreal to be so close to getting a manager of this calibre again. This squad needs a manager like Klopp to get them going and imo hes got a good group to start off with. However its still only a pipe dream until we see the ultimate lean!

Vicxas

Gbear wrote: »

We'll go ape**** but we'll never know that he was actually a coke-head or used to boot cats down the road for the craic.

****ing lost my **** to this.

Mr Alan

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Until results go bad(which will happen) and the self entitled fans rear their heads again.

If we're in our 4th season under him and there's been no trophy and things are going steadily downhill, we should replace him.

However, unless he has a total meltdown he'll have 12-18 months to get the team ticking without decent fans wanting him out.

However, I predict you'll be all over him immediately if results aren't great coming out with **** like "well it was unacceptable for the likes of Llyod and Alan when Rodgers struggled so I'm only applying the same logic" ignoring totally 1) him being brand new to the club having a lot of work to clear out some of the dross and 2) him being a proven winner

Caovyn Lineah

Mr Alan wrote: »

If we're in our 4th season under him and there's been no trophy and things are going steadily downhill, we should replace him.

However, unless he has a total meltdown he'll have 12-18 months to get the team ticking without decent fans wanting him out.

However, I predict you'll be all over him immediately if results aren't great coming out with **** like "well it was unacceptable for the likes of Llyod and Alan when Rodgers struggled so I'm only applying the same logic" ignoring totally 1) him being brand new to the club having a lot of work to clear out some of the dross and 2) him being a proven winner

Hahaha, try reading my posts before spouting rubbish.

Potential Underachiever

Mr Alan wrote: »

The second sentence is hugely important here

We know his ceiling is awesomeness - this appointment will really unite any fans with a clue.

Mr Alan wrote: »

If we're in our 4th season under him and there's been no trophy and things are going steadily downhill, we should replace him.

However, unless he has a total meltdown he'll have 12-18 months to get the team ticking without decent fans wanting him out.

However, I predict you'll be all over him immediately if results aren't great coming out with **** like "well it was unacceptable for the likes of Llyod and Alan when Rodgers struggled so I'm only applying the same logic" ignoring totally 1) him being brand new to the club having a lot of work to clear out some of the dross and 2) him being a proven winner

You have a low opinion of yourself don't you.

Mr Alan

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Hahaha, try reading my posts before spouting rubbish.

I do read your posts - hence how I know exactly the kind of tripe to expect from you

Utopia Parkway

JohnDaniels wrote: »

Not as much stock put in Paul Joyce in this thread? They have gone into meltdown over on rawk since his article like it is an iron clad done deal.

Paul Joyce is pretty reliable. Unless a deal was very close I don't think he would be so bullish about it. But deals are never concluded until contracts are signed and delivered.

Agent Coulson

Caovyn Lineah

Mr Alan wrote: »

I do read your posts - hence how I know exactly the kind of tripe to expect from you

Nope, as a fan i will be fully behind the new manager. Something you just cannot fathom.

Mr Alan

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Nope, as a fan i will be fully behind the new manager. Something you just cannot fathom.

Haha sure

Because I wanted Rodgers out I'm a bad fan :rolleyes:

Kerrigooney

They're all saying it now. Announcement by the end of the week. Gonna be a long week.

Sir Gallagher

Some tulip :pac:

~Rebel~

mudstack wrote: »

I addressed the point, you just didn't like the answer. The players you mentioned are crap in my opinion, and the position in the league was right in my opinion. I'm not blinded by hero worshipping, I seen them play.

I've no interest in continuing this.

Nope, you didn't address it at all. The point is that many players weren't playing to their potential. How good or bad you think they are is irrelevant, that sample have been objectively worse under Rodgers than other managers. For this point it doesn't matter that their best still isn't good enough, when we haven't seen anything like their best. That's on the manager.

Lovren was a completely different player with Southampton. Lallana was a completely different player with Southampton. Balotelli was much better at every other club he's played at. Markovic was much more impressive with Benfica.

It's really not complicated - get the most out of your players and make them more than the sum of their parts...that clearly didn't happen.

<edit> I don't get the hero worshipping comment...who's getting hero worshipped?

brevity

https://twitter.com/AnfieldHQ/status/651149616994381824

It is expected Klopp will head to Merseyside in the next 48 hours for further negotiations - announcement possible by Friday. (Bascombe)

Eeek

Tipsy McSwagger

We are Klopptomaniacs:)