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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

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  • Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    I'm tired of watching us be crap. I'm tired of expecting us to not get a good result, no matter who we are playing. I'm tired of watching us playing players in positions that don't suit them in a formation that is ponderous and ineffective. I'm tired of not being able to fully believe in the manager.

    If we could get Klopp in then we should. It might not work, but it's becoming clearer and clearer that Rodgers in charge is not working either. I don't like us making willy nilly changes to our manager, but I don't think that would apply at the minute.

    We have 4 home games in a row now in all competitions. If by the end of that run of games he has lost matchday support due to bad performances or results then it's just a matter of time by then. Sturridge coming back might force him to play a better formation nearly which might be his only way out at this point.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭PhiloCypher


    It was known the day he signed for the club. It was among the list of things that caused fans to raise their concerns. It was the foundation to many suggesting he was a spoofer.

    I prefer to use more moderate language myself in order to avoid unnecessary arguments but the core of their arguments have been proven accurate.

    The like of Alan and Lloyd got a disgusting amount of abuse on this forum for their views.

    While I'd say we're all pretty much singing from the same hymn sheet now lets not pretend Mr Alan and Lloyd were saint's in all this . They both specialised in combative blanket statements and in Mr Alan's case if you disagreed with him you were deluded(now clearly we were, but that's neither here nor there:o). That was bound to get peoples backs up and see them catch some flack in return. I can't help but feel had they used more qualifiers like IMO and couched their arguments a little better, people, and I include myself in this, would have seen past the name of the poster and maybe come around to their way of thinking a lot sooner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch



    The like of Alan and Lloyd got a disgusting amount of abuse on this forum for their views.

    Ah Jaysus. Me heart bleeds. They might be right about a lot of things, but their delivery wasn't always without unnecessary condescension and questionable timing. It's gonna attract heat. Came as no surprise to either, I would imagine.

    But I empathise with them having the current bittersweet burden of this foresight, because 'when they're right, we're ****e'. And nobody wants that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Pulsating Star


    So we are on a two game losing streak and it's sack the manager time. Not really how I wanted us to be compeating with Real Madrid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,928 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Klopp to be the next Dutch manager is starting to do the rounds out on social media.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,406 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    So we are on a two game losing streak and it's sack the manager time. Not really how I wanted us to be compeating with Real Madrid.

    We're on a streak where we've lost 7 of 14 league games picking up a mere 13 points on that stretch. So don't be giving it all that about '2 game losing streak' or '5 games into a new season'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,406 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    I've been posting here in the various guises of this thread for 8 and a half years. In that stretch of time my viewpoint has been a majority viewpoint for periods; and a severe minority at other junctures. I post the way I post.

    As I said earlier this morning, I'd love a winner like Klopp or Ancelotti to come in so we could all get behind them and see it the same way (for a period at least).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    So we are on a two game losing streak and it's sack the manager time. Not really how I wanted us to be compeating with Real Madrid.

    I know we'd all like to forget last season, but I'd rather not watch it all over again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭baldbear


    So we are on a two game losing streak and it's sack the manager time. Not really how I wanted us to be compeating with Real Madrid.

    Are you blind? There's a lot more to it than a 2 game loosing streak. He should of went after that Stoke defeat.

    His determination to have Lovren in before Sakho is a sin.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Grayditch wrote: »
    Ah Jaysus. Me heart bleeds. They might be right about a lot of things, but their delivery wasn't always without unnecessary condescension and questionable timing. It's gonna attract heat. Came as no surprise to either, I would imagine.

    I initially agreed with a lot of what they said but since they had to swallow a bit of pride it's become caricature stuff. Any 'heat' they got was from those firmly entrenched on the 'The Rodgers can do no wrong side' not exactly people worth listening to.

    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Jon Stark


    It will be interesting to see if the current state of things will effect Rodgers' schedule for Sturridge. He really is the last role of the dice that Rodgers can make.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3232996/Luis-Suarez-told-look-Philippe-Coutinho-left-Liverpool-reveals-Steven-Gerrard.html
    Before Luis Suarez left Liverpool’s training ground for the last time he spoke to me about Philippe Coutinho. ‘Make sure you look after him,’ Luis said of Philippe.
    That told me how much Suarez rated Coutinho as a player. I knew they were close, because all the South Americans and Spaniards loved Luis.
    But it struck a chord with me when Luis singled out Philippe as our most special young talent. It echoed my own view.

    Philippe is wonderfully gifted and I expect him to become Liverpool’s leading player.
    Many Liverpool fans already regard him as our main man.
    He has just signed a new deal and he and his wife — who are a lovely couple — seem settled here.
    But I also know that the Spanish giants, Barcelona and Real Madrid, will come looking for Philippe in a few more seasons, just like they did with Luis.
    And that’s when it will get tricky for Liverpool because the lure to go to one of those two clubs is so strong for any South American or Spanish player.
    Until that happens, Liverpool should really treasure Philippe.



    would agree with this . Coutinho is our best player & unfortunetly I see him replacing Iniesta at Barca in a few years unless we get top 4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭mav79


    The team should be built around Couthino, get players in front of him making runs and have him deeper than the traditional no. 10. He is the one player we have that can pick the ball up in the centre of the pitch and go past a couple of players instead of hitting it back to the defenders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭Kerrigooney


    Shane ‏@FNN_Official 23m23 minutes ago

    Reports in Boston suggest Brendan Rodgers is due to be sacked by Liverpool within the next day. #LFC

    I have no idea who this account is and I'm only posting it because of the "Rumours" part in the name of this thread before anyone bites my head off. Ignore it if you want.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Time for a "Gerrard's memoirs" and "My Gerrard Memorys" thread I think! :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Shane ‏@FNN_Official 23m23 minutes ago

    Reports in Boston suggest Brendan Rodgers is due to be sacked by Liverpool within the next day. #LFC

    I have no idea who this account is and I'm only posting it because of the "Rumours" part in the name of this thread before anyone bites my head off. Ignore it if you want.

    FNN - Fvcking Nonsense News I think.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    I have no idea who this account is and I'm only posting it because of the "Rumours" part in the name of this thread before anyone bites my head off. Ignore it if you want.

    No chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭kildare75


    baldbear wrote: »
    Are you blind? There's a lot more to it than a 2 game loosing streak. He should of went after that Stoke defeat.

    His determination to have Lovren in before Sakho is a sin.

    Lovern was not the reason we lost, he actually played well, the reason we lost is we had no idea of what we were supposed to be doing.
    I was a massive fan of Rodgers till that Stoke defeat, it was obvious that he had lost the players then, it's more obvious now , we need to change the manager.
    I'm not convinced that klopp is the answer however, but we do need to change.

    Once the players stop playing for the manager, well there is only one outcome.

    Brendan gave us one heck of a ride two seasons ago, wether that was down to his doing or players who have left, is debatable, but he /they almost won us the league, we really should have....anyways that in the past,
    But that magic is gone....it won't come back under Brendan ....
    we now look clueless, sure the new players might settle and start to produce some kinda form,but as someone once said 'form is temporary, class is permanent '
    And we are a million miles away from being class..
    Brendan thank you for your efforts, but it really is time for change.....and it has to come soon, very soon.
    Ynwa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,592 ✭✭✭brevity


    I really wish Gerrard's autobiography wasnt a thing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭Kerrigooney


    FNN - Fvcking Nonsense News I think.
    5starpool wrote: »
    No chance.

    I very much doubt it myself. Just thought I'd post it in case it is true and you all think I'm great :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,928 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Jan Aage Fjortoft
    Bild: - Liverpool- fans want Klopp straight away
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Klopp taking the Dutch job rumour seems to be gathering legs. Time for a muffin basket. Stuffed with millions of euros.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Why would Kloppy want a part time job with the Dutch? Hardly strikes me as his thing at this point. What's more they are worse than Liverpool right now! (just)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    Grayditch wrote: »
    Klopp taking the Dutch job rumour seems to be gathering legs. Time for a muffin basket. Stuffed with millions of euros.

    Neatherlands manager is only in place for two games, and it looks like they're missing out on the Euros.

    He'd be better off just waiting till next summer if he wants a National job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    I hope the rumour persists, creating a perceived 'ship sailing away' situation. And that it's on the back page of the Boston Globe tomorrow. Ok that's a bit much to ask.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    Grayditch wrote: »
    Klopp taking the Dutch job rumour seems to be gathering legs. Time for a muffin basket. Stuffed with millions of euros.

    There is an absolute reek of bullsh*t coming from this.

    The Dutch side are in awful form, will miss out on Euro2016 barring a miracle and the fact that Klopp is German born and bred means he would be slaughtered in Germany for taking the Dutch job, especially when the German job could well be available next year.

    Of all the jobs he could be linked with, this is the maddest one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    There is an absolute reek of bullsh*t coming from this.

    The Dutch side are in awful form, will miss out on Euro2016 barring a miracle and the fact that Klopp is German born and bred means he would be slaughtered in Germany for taking the Dutch job, especially when the German job could well be available next year.

    Of all the jobs he could be linked with, this is the maddest one

    Clearly he will do anything to avoid Anfield.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    Clearly he will do anything to avoid Anfield.

    Don't blame him to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭corwill


    I can't see Klopp tolerating the transfer committee, and FSG won't abandon it, at least not yet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,928 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    corwill wrote: »
    I can't see Klopp tolerating the transfer committee, and FSG won't abandon it, at least not yet.

    He worked with one at Dortmund.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    corwill wrote: »
    I can't see Klopp tolerating the transfer committee, and FSG won't abandon it, at least not yet.

    Didn't he have a similar setup at Mainz and Dortmund? He wants to work with a DoF anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    I very much doubt it myself. Just thought I'd post it in case it is true and you all think I'm great :D

    I've got your back here. Will be taking down the names of everyone who gives you abuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭corwill


    He worked with one at Dortmund.

    Yes, but not a **** one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭corwill


    Knex. wrote: »
    Didn't he have a similar setup at Mainz and Dortmund? He wants to work with a DoF anyway.

    That might be the way ahead, scrap the TC and bring in a DoF, it's what FSG wanted originally.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Well the TC is basically moribund it seems to me, Rodgers got everyone he wanted this summer and a DoF isn't quite the same thing in my book - for a kick off the typical example in a Bundesliga club is the real boss. The manager is in fact the senior squad coach, he has far less input with regard to the vision thing. a good DoF is worth far more to a club than any coach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,928 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    corwill wrote: »
    Yes, but not a **** one.

    That's what Rodgers wants you to believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    corwill wrote: »
    Yes, but not a **** one.

    It wasn't messy, but I can't see FSG being completely stubborn regarding the transfer committee's setup if Klopp is likely to come.

    He had a 3 party committee, with Watzke, Zorc and himself, at Dortmund and it worked well most of the time, although there were some poor purchases aswell, like Immobile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    'The Rodgers' for DOF.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    Just bring in De Boer and the biys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭corwill


    That's what Rodgers wants you to believe.

    More than enough blame to go around. There should be a minibus taking the lot of them out of Anfield, Rodgers and the TC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,928 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Knex. wrote: »
    Just bring in De Boer and the biys.

    The Ajax team.

    Technical director: Marc Overmars

    Manager: Frank de Boer
    Assistant manager: Dennis Bergkamp
    Assistant manager: Hennie Spijkerman
    Defensive trainer: Winston Bogarde
    Goalkeepers trainer: Carlo l'Ami


    Quiet impressive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    But shi'te in Europe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    The Ajax team.

    Technical director: Marc Overmars

    Manager: Frank de Boer
    Assistant manager: Dennis Bergkamp
    Assistant manager: Hennie Spijkerman
    Defensive trainer: Winston Bogarde
    Goalkeepers trainer: Carlo l'Ami


    Quiet impressive.

    Give me quiet impressive over loud disappointing any day.

    :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭corwill


    The Ajax team.

    Technical director: Marc Overmars

    Manager: Frank de Boer
    Assistant manager: Dennis Bergkamp
    Assistant manager: Hennie Spijkerman
    Defensive trainer: Winston Bogarde
    Goalkeepers trainer: Carlo l'Ami


    Quiet impressive.

    Bogarde could bring the best out of Enrique...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭syngindub


    The Ajax team.

    Technical director: Marc Overmars

    Manager: Frank de Boer
    Assistant manager: Dennis Bergkamp
    Assistant manager: Hennie Spijkerman
    Defensive trainer: Winston Bogarde
    Goalkeepers trainer: Carlo l'Ami


    Quiet impressive.
    Marketing director: Edwin van der Sar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    Wonder who their bus driver is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,928 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Danny Murphy just cleared it up on MoTD 2 Mignolet is to blame for everything especially Lovren's issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭corwill


    Knex. wrote: »
    Wonder who their bus driver is?

    Marco Boogers, tows his caravan behind it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭corwill


    Danny Murphy just cleared it up on MoTD 2 Mignolet is to blame for everything especially Lovren's issues.

    I turned over, was Fat Sam as happy as an 11 year old who's just learned how to box the dolphin?


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