Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

JohnDaniels

redzerdrog wrote: »

Read recently that Rafa actually expected real to come in for Alonso a year earlier than they did and was trying to plan for the inevitable by getting Barry in.

Now imagine if had the foresight to realise that Suarez would be going to Barcelona yet we prepared for same by bringing in a top class striker thus not getting rode when actually trying to replace Suarez with a load of donkeys

This is what Parry said in his interview with TAW for those asking for a source.

corwill

brevity wrote: »

Just for the record, I don't believe Rafa's time had come. Especially when considering who was lined up to replace him.

I didn't think his time had come, but I was starting to have doubts. Aside from the tail off in form and the league finish, it felt like Rafa was conducting an argument with the owners through his selections and his management of the team, like the players were chess pieces. I was on his side in that argument, but I felt like performances and results suffered because of it. So when he went, I thought maybe it could turn out to be best for everyone, not least him. It hurt like hell, I loved him to bits, but it felt like it might be a natural end to the chapter.

I was horrified at the selection of H*****n. My brother is a Blackburn fan, so I was familiar with just how unable he was to deal with the slightest pressure and his essential negativity and cowardice. I wanted the poisonous old granny gone before he'd even arrived.

It became almost immediately apparent just how right Rafa was about just how wrong those two filthweasels were for the club. Should never have doubted Rafa, not for a second. I'd carry him on my back from Madrid if he'd take the lift.

Hangballlouie

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

If I didn't have Liverpool games to look forward to and then in turn wonder what I was looking forward to all week then I dunno how I'd fill the void.

Get a girlfriend/boyfriend?

LuckyLloyd

Who else was available in the summer of 2010?

Sacking him to bring Hodgson in was mad stuff.

Charlie19

Hangball Doughboy wrote: »

Get a girlfriend/boyfriend?

A hybfriend.

Potential Underachiever

Hangball Doughboy wrote: »

Get a girlfriend/boyfriend?

Very cute way to find out if I'm single, I'm not though. Try Grindr.

Hangballlouie

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Very cute way to find out if I'm single, I'm not though. Try Grindr.

Xoxoxoxoxo

brevity

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Who else was available in the summer of 2010?

Sacking him to bring Hodgson in was mad stuff.

I remember Reina saying that he tried to get Liverpool to sign Pellegrini but they decided to go with Hodgson.

Agent Coulson

brevity wrote: »

I remember Reina saying that he tried to get Liverpool to sign Pellegrini but they decided to go with Hodgson.

Pellegrini wanted the job as well if I remember right.

gafferino

Comes into thread to discuss current Liverpool news........ Leaves thread head in hands.

Francie Barrett

Goal and assist for Luis Alberto tonight. Only caught the first half, but he was Deportivo's best attacking player without a doubt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhOXWh3XGQI

Mumha

~Rebel~ wrote: »

That doesn't really tie in too much with what actually happened though, particularly all the stuff about Alonso really wanting to raise his young kid in Spain.

Also being sad/upset at leaving your home of 5 years isn't the same as not wanting to leave.

No, he said that he didn't want to leave. The guy was genuine, and there was no reason to bullshhit.

Mumha

Mr Alan wrote: »

This place never ceases to amaze me.

Well! I met a friend of Messi's and he said he wanted to join Liverpool but when Rafa left he changed his mind!

Yeah but you're probably a liar, I'm not. HTH.

brevity

MNF, Carra and Neville on Saturdays game.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x36xqna

Dare I say that they are being a bit kind to Rodgers

Turtyturd

Hangball Doughboy wrote: »

Xoxoxoxoxo

Your surnames match...it's meant to be.

Washington Irving

Turtyturd wrote: »

Your surnames match...it's meant to be.

You've been reading too much ASOIAF

BorneTobyWilde

It is always tough for teams outside of Spain’s top two; even tougher for the managers who get the stick and then the axe for not being able to win as many matches as Barcelona and Real Madrid in a league that is generally divided into another sub-league for the rest of the teams. This is a story of the man who despite being an over-achiever in the sub-league still managed to get the axe. Unai Emery comes from a family with a history of producing professional footballers. He too had a short career in professional football, in mostly Spanish League’s second division. After a career-ending knee injury ruled him out from furthering his career, he moved into a managerial post with the club he was associated with as a player, LocaDeportiva. Over-achieving is probably his forte, as he guided Deportiva and later Almeria to promotions that were never before witnessed in their respective histories. This was the beginning.
There is no introduction required for the likes of Valencia, who have always been at the helm of Spanish football. They quickly seized the opportunity to sign a young Emery in the summer of 2008 to showcase his talents at a club that were struggling to keep pace with the rest of the clubs due to the financial problems surrounding the Mestella. Little did he disappoint. The boy from Basque, now a man, led Valencia from a torrid position in the league and finished sixth, earning them a Europa League spot for next year. This was a turnaround for the “che” club. Good days were ahead. The following season, Valencia now full of confidence and desire to achieve further success finished 3rd in the league. No one could have foreseen this. It was a golden period for Valencia who hadn’t seen this level of success in the previous few seasons. But as they say, all good things don’t last.
It was no secret that Valencia was a club ridden with financial problems. Hence the sale of players such as David Villa, David Silva, Juan Mata was always forthcoming. Despite all the problems, Emery was someone who could always come up with a solution. He did not let anything get in his way and built his team season after season, finishing third yet again in the 2010-11 campaign. He always had a way of setting his teams up. He would drill them; always make sure that they were competitive and tactically sound. He would never field the same eleven in back-to-back games, always leaving the opposition guessing. He belonged to the GuardiolaSchool in the way his teams played the game. But not everyone appreciated this style. The 2011-12 season saw Unai Emery become Valencia’s longest serving manager in the last 40 years. Valencia doesn’t usually have managers who last 4 years. A neutral would say that the feat was much deserved. But, the fans at the Mestella had seen the micro-managing Emery for far too long. They were again bound for a third place finish. Yet again, doing the best they could. But the fans were not satisfied. They wanted more. They were tired of the monotony that surrounded the club. They needed excitement. Hence, they spoke and the club responded by letting Emery go. Although, he hadn’t done too badly, securing Valencia champions league football season after season. But all good things do come to an end.

Unai Emery joined Sevilla in January 2013, after a small stint at Spartak Moscow which ended badly. Sevilla was very much like Valencia in the way the club was run. Financial problems are something that these clubs have gotten accustomed to over the years. In what little time he had for the rest of the campaign, Emery guided Sevilla to a 9th place finish. They qualified for the Europa League. The following season can be regarded as Emery’s best in management. Some of the players Sevilla had at the time were of top quality. The likes of Ivan Rakitic, Kevin Gameiro, Carlos Bacca, Jose Antonio Reyes always had class about them, but the managers before Emery could never really get the best out of them. February 2014 proved to be a turning point for Sevilla. All the hard work Emery had put in this group was starting to show. They started winning most of their games; and winning comfortably. The highlight of the season came when they beat Real Madrid in front of their home crowd at the Estadio Ramon Sanchez-Pizjuan, denting the Los Blancos hopes of winning the title. It was a moment of pure joy for the fans in Andalusia who instantly knew their club was on the right path. Although, they finished fifth come the end of the season, they gave Athletic Bilbao a run for their money for that fourth spot in the final few months.
They lost just 3 games after February till the end of the season, making them the team with the most points on board for those three months. And this was not the end. Emery’s hard work was to bear more fruits. And the result was a hard-fought win in the final of the Europa League against Benfica. The remarkable Sevilla under the guidance of Unai emery had made history. It was Emery’s greatest moment, and especially a much deserved one. After all the under-appreciation that he had previously received at Valencia, his former club would be kicking themselves for sacking him. Valencia are now back to life as it was before the appointment of Emery in 2008. The fans and the club have only themselves to blame. Whereas the high-flying Sevilla despite losing key men again; Rakitic Moreno and Federico Fazio, all having left for greener pastures over the summer, have made a splendid start to the 2014-15 season and are enjoying their football. In Emery, Sevilla have now found a manager who would stick and guarantee them results year round.




Deserves his chance at a big club like Liverpool.

prettyboy81

Rodgers is fooked!

We shall not be moved

rob316

JohnDaniels wrote: »

I honestly find you logic beyond comprehension. I just quietly walk away from 'fans' I meet irl that spout this stuff so I'm going to do the same here.

You love rafa I get it

mosstin

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Goal and assist for Luis Alberto tonight. Only caught the first half, but he was Deportivo's best attacking player without a doubt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhOXWh3XGQI

Does anybody else think that............;)

Potential Underachiever

rarnes1 wrote: »

We shall not be moved

He looks like this guy....

Harry Palmr

The journos have been briefed and tomorrows papers say -

Hendo is in the USA for assessment of his foot injury (quite why is another matter)
FSG are not ready to pull the trigger but are concerned at the nature of recent performances.
Jerome Sinclair has signed a new deal.

mikeym

Its too early for me to start saying Rodgers Out.

I will wait to December unless things get really bad.

bur

While there's still time to save our season.



I'll pay for his new hat.

MentalMario

corwill wrote: »

I didn't think his time had come, but I was starting to have doubts. Aside from the tail off in form and the league finish, it felt like Rafa was conducting an argument with the owners through his selections and his management of the team, like the players were chess pieces. I was on his side in that argument, but I felt like performances and results suffered because of it. So when he went, I thought maybe it could turn out to be best for everyone, not least him. It hurt like hell, I loved him to bits, but it felt like it might be a natural end to the chapter.

I was horrified at the selection of H*****n. My brother is a Blackburn fan, so I was familiar with just how unable he was to deal with the slightest pressure and his essential negativity and cowardice. I wanted the poisonous old granny gone before he'd even arrived.

It became almost immediately apparent just how right Rafa was about just how wrong those two filthweasels were for the club. Should never have doubted Rafa, not for a second. I'd carry him on my back from Madrid if he'd take the lift.

Christ, are you sure you're not me?

I'd take Rafa back in a heartbeat, too, along with El Nino.

K-9

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Who else was available in the summer of 2010?

Sacking him to bring Hodgson in was mad stuff.

Talk was of big European managers from those that wanted Rafa gone.

I think most of these fans just weren't aware of how bad things were under H&G and just thought Rafa was to blame. Obviously none of us knew the full extent but the transfer dealings in the Summer of 09 gave an inkling something wasn't right financially.

JohnDaniels

Lol

https://twitter.com/jimbeglin/status/643500337941323776

JohnDaniels

rob316 wrote: »

You love rafa I get it

I do but then I think every Liverpool fan should love him. I find those that don't very strange.

Agent Coulson

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The journos have been briefed and tomorrows papers say -

Hendo is in the USA for assessment of his foot injury (quite why is another matter)
FSG are not ready to pull the trigger but are concerned at the nature of recent performances.
Jerome Sinclair has signed a new deal.

Liverpool FC captain heads to America for treatment on heel problem

Jordan Henderson has flown to America as Liverpool look to get to the bottom of the captain’s long-standing heel injury.

The Reds midfielder travelled to New York on Monday with club doctor Andy Massey, and will visit New Jersey based orthopaedic specialist Dr James Cozzarelli, as he seeks a solution to the issue which has kept him out of his side’s last three matches.

Henderson will have treatment on the injury, which is causing him discomfort in both his heel and the sole of his foot, in a bid to accelerate his return to action. Crucially, though, the 25-year-old is NOT due to undergo surgery.

Henderson limped out of Liverpool’s win over Bournemouth on 17 August, and has been troubled by the problem since.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jordan-henderson-injury-liverpool-fc-10054478

Turtyturd

Probably caught it off Sturridge.

J Mysterio

****s sake.

~Rebel~

corwill wrote: »

I didn't think his time had come, but I was starting to have doubts. Aside from the tail off in form and the league finish, it felt like Rafa was conducting an argument with the owners through his selections and his management of the team, like the players were chess pieces. I was on his side in that argument, but I felt like performances and results suffered because of it. So when he went, I thought maybe it could turn out to be best for everyone, not least him. It hurt like hell, I loved him to bits, but it felt like it might be a natural end to the chapter.

Yeah, I kinda felt like this too....like it was better for him to leave, seemed to really be taking its toll on him mentally with the constant battle with H&G. It had just become a power struggle between them, with the football almost taking a back seat. That actually makes sense, given that his hands were totally tied in transfers - like only being able to buy from clubs that owed us money the previous summer etc. It just felt like it had come to a head, and was almost good for his sanity to take a step back.

I still firmly believe he'll manage us again though, and with success under a less insane ownership. At this stage, is there anyone left at the club apart from Ayre (who was Commercial Director at the time I think) who was there when he left?

Chip Whitley

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I still firmly believe he'll manage us again though, and with success under a less insane ownership. At this stage, is there anyone left at the club apart from Ayre (who was Commercial Director at the time I think) who was there when he left?

So do I, I really hope he'll be back some day. I think he would have worked well under FSG if he had been able to hang on that little bit longer until after they had sold the club.

Also, just to add my two cents to the casual fan debate from earlier: I'm 31. Have supported Liverpool since I was 6. During the latter part of my school years and all through college you would not have found a more 'devoted' fan than me. Watched every game, I had subscriptions to LFC magazine, Kop Newspaper, FourFourTwo, bought every kit every year, CL nights were the highlight of my week. Even after college, I listened to The Anfield Wrap and other football podcasts just for a Liverpool fix. All that kind of stuff.

Then the Hodgson era coincided with me meeting my missus. The poor standard of player he was bringing in was troubling but I was always a glass half-full supporter. Then Kenny's reign coincided with us having kids. Nando leaving just broke my heart though, I'm not even joking. I haven't been the same since. It really opened my eyes to how much LFC was at the mercy of whoever owned it. Just as Rodgers took over I was getting rid of Sky Sports. I couldn't really afford it, needed money for nappies. No more jerseys, no more magazine subscriptions. I started my own business, so I was working, and for the most part still am working 12 hour days to get to where I want to be. So Sunday is my day off. That's family day. There's no way I can justify sitting down for 90 mins and watching what Rodgers is serving up, no way. I get texts from my mates updating me on scores, I'll check apps or Football365 while I'm having lunch, I watch MotD on a Saturday night if I don't fall asleep on the couch before it comes on but following the club isn't what it used to be for me.

It's disappointing as hell to see where the club is at now, the poor form and bad results still affect me just as much as the good ones, but just because I don't watch every game, it doesn't make me a fairweather fan. It just means that the club as it is now makes it easier for me to move it down my list of priorities.

Agent Coulson

Gerrard on Balotelli.

Rodgers gamble not the transfer committee is what I take for from

In my last season, Brendan Rodgers came to me at Melwood one day in mid-August. We had a chat on the training pitch. He said, ‘You know we’ve missed out on a couple of signings. I’m basically left with no option but to have a bit of a gamble.’
Brendan paused before he spoke again: ‘The gamble is Mario Balotelli.’ My instant reaction was, ‘Uh-oh.

Brendan must have sensed my underlying reservations because he spoke a little more about why he thought it could be worth the risk. Brendan implied that Balotelli didn’t have anywhere else to go — and it seemed as if Liverpool would be Balotelli’s last chance to shine at a major club.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3233032/Steven-Gerrard-reveals-ran-rule-new-Liverpool-signing-training-session-Xabi-Alonso-El-Hadji-Diouf-Luis-Suarez-Mario-Balotelli.html

punk_one82

Chip Whitley wrote: »

It just means that the club as it is now makes it easier for me to move it down my list of priorities.

Really don't mean to be a dick here - not directing this at you. What you've said makes perfect sense and with a wife, kids and your own business it's understandable how 90 mins every week isn't always possible, but I think that last line is what people are talking about. You have perfectly valid reasons for not watching matches, however some people in here who are turning off matches now when we're losing and are giving Liverpool a break for a while. That's who the fair weather comments would be aimed at in my opinion.

LuckyLloyd

Yeah, I think if football doesn't slide down your list of priorities from time to time you're probably doing life wrong to some degree or another.

corwill

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Yeah, I think if football doesn't slide down your list of priorities from time to time you're probably doing life wrong to some degree or another.

And the last thing any reasonably productive grown adult should feel like they're obliged to do is justify that some keyboard warrior setting himself up as the keeper of the flame.

Lovely Bloke

Jaysis, turning the TV off is hardly analogous to leaving the ground early.

weldoninhio

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Jaysis, turning the TV off is hardly analogous to leaving the ground early.

If you don't watch every game in HD your heart obviously isn't in it and you are fair weather.

corwill

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Jaysis, turning the TV off is hardly analogous to leaving the ground early.

GETOUTOFMYCLUBOLAFWOOLARGLEBARGLE

Dickerty

weldoninhio wrote: »

If you don't watch every game in HD your heart obviously isn't in it and you are fair weather.

HD = Hardcore Devotee

Any time I KNOW we are going to lose (which is pretty rare, like Stoke in May), I'll switch off and do something constructive. I have 4 kids so there is always something to be done! Spending an extra 30 or 60 mins railing at the TV/Laptop is bad for the blood pressure.

Dickerty

rarnes1 wrote: »

We still haven't replaced Alonso. Scandalous tbh considering the cash we've spent since

He'll be back as manager in a few years, don't worry!

googled eyes

All the usuals stating the Klopp is waiting on the call.

So i guess that means its not gonna happen

Vicxas

googled eyes wrote: »

All the usuals stating the Klopp is waiting on the call.

So i guess that means its not gonna happen

We'll see come our loss on Thursday and draw on Saturday


I'm ITK DYK

googled eyes

Vicxas wrote:

I'm ITK DYK

You should write that after your name, like a doctor

Vicxas ITK DYK

Dickerty

Vicxas wrote: »

We'll see come our loss on Thursday and draw on Saturday


I'm ITK DYK

I didn't know you were a lesbian... :eek::P

Hangballlouie

Dickerty wrote: »

I didn't know you were a lesbian... :eek::P

All the men in Finglas are lesbians.

Lovely Bloke

Hangball Doughboy wrote: »

All the men in Finglas are lesbians.

no we aren't.

Vicxas

I'm from Finglas?