Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

Osmosis Jones

I'd move Coutinho into the midfield 3, Firmino then behind the two strikers.

JohnDaniels

NukaCola wrote: »

Can Milner Lucas........piss poor midfield even when you include Allen and only ok when you include Henderson anyway.
Serious lack of quality there.

Yeah was thinking that myself. For a manager who prides himself on controlling games which is usually done from midifled we really have woeful midfield options especially from a creativity point of view.

Harry Palmr

Coutinho is on Footie Focus, speaking Portuguese! C'mon lad try.

MD1990

rarnes1 wrote: »

Bad news

This means more of Can playing. Disaster

You seem to love singling out the younger players with Sh1t remarks like that. Probably said the same about Henderson in his 1st 2 seasons at the club.

Agent Coulson

Those injections really did the job.

Harry Palmr

Other foot.

MD1990

MD1990 wrote: »

You seem to love singling out the younger players with Sh1t remarks like that. Probably said the same about Henderson in his 1st 2 seasons at the club.

Not at all. Who cares what age they are.

Always been a fan of Henderson. I'm sure he recieved criticism here and there.

Can has been consistently poor for quite a while and shouldn't be in the first team. That's plain as day

Harry Palmr

Cans first year (and a bit) has certainly been no worse than Henderson's was.

PhiloCypher

That's my whole belief system fooked I always had Hendo marked down as the David Dunn to Sturridges Mr. Glass

Harry Palmr

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Cans first year (and a bit) has certainly been no worse than Henderson's was.

Henderson wasn't too bad first season.

Rodgers hasn't helped Can tbh moving him about in different positions

Turtyturd

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Cans first year (and a bit) has certainly been no worse than Henderson's was.

Yep, you could tell Can was on the pitch.

asteroids over berlin

Not bothered, Henderson is average. I still believe the team will improve. I'd rather have Lucas than Henderson.
For me, Hendersons appointment to Captain smelt of mediocrity - the Tottenham of the 90's.

T-K-O

asteroids over berlin wrote: »

Not bothered, Henderson is average. I still believe the team will improve. I'd rather have Lucas than Henderson.
For me, Hendersons appointment to Captain smelt of mediocrity - the Tottenham of the 90's.

.....and I'm off to enjoy the weekend.

In your dreams. Tottenham won a cup or 2 in the 90s!

Gbear

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Cans first year (and a bit) has certainly been no worse than Henderson's was.

He's probably tried more and failed more.

I don't think one is better than the other.

Messi loses the ball a lot, but that's obviously part and parcel of his game.
If Pique or Busquets were doing that they'd be dropped like a hot turd.

I think it's why Allen is so underrated (he's not great either - just not as atrocious as everyone seems to think). People expect every player to do amazing things and not just their job.

But we see what happens to our midfield when Henderson isn't around to do the basics.
It seems to be about mentality as much as anything.
Patience and the sacrificing of your ego as well as the standard fitness and technical football stuff.

I still think Can is a good option at CB if we're not expecting to get attacked much - he mightn't be quite ready to take the reins in midfield, but he can play a more understated auxiliary midfield role, while giving us a bit more solidity and freeing up the only players in the side that can give us width - Moreno, Ibe, Clyne.

He was more use on Thursday as another footballer from the back. Wasn't great for their goal, but our play with the ball is where we're falling down the most at the moment.

Lets go ape****:

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Ings--Benteke

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Firmino----Coutinho
Moreno----Milner

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Clyne
---Sakho--Gomez--Can

Harry Palmr

rarnes1 wrote: »

Henderson wasn't too bad first season

He was the proverbial rabbit in the headlights, ended up hiding in plain sight on the right. Okay Dalglish was foolish for trying to play him there so much, speaking of which....

rarnes1 wrote: »

Rodgers hasn't helped Can tbh moving him about in different positions

I think a big problem is having a lot of similar type midfield players.

No ball players, playmakers.

Lucas, Allen, can, rossiter, other chap from midweek, Milner, coutinho, ferminio, Ibe.... Plenty of options imo, Henderson is a loss but not anywhere near sturridge levels... These things happen.

googled eyes

We're ****ed lads.

EDIT: I just think Milner may not be a strong enough character to be the captain.

He's good at having chats with the younger players and giving advice at half time/full time but he seems a bit incapable of doing it during the actual game.

Agent Coulson

We are turning in to Arsenal with all these injuries

Grayditch

This season was interesting.

Potential Underachiever

Agent Coulson wrote: »

We are turning in to Arsenal with all these injuries

Hold on, I thought we were turning into Swansea? Make your mind up.

Jon Stark

Eh, didn't Henderson just go to the US over his heel? If it was that much of a concern wtf was he doing training?

Jon Stark

googled eyes wrote: »

We're ****ed lads.

EDIT: I just think Milner may not be a strong enough character to be the captain.

He's good at having chats with the younger players and giving advice at half time/full time but he seems a bit incapable of doing it during the actual game.

Wouldn't be hot on Milner as captain either. He's prone to the odd stupid action when things are going against us such as rash tackling. Not one to depend on to lead by example.

Turtyturd

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Hold on, I thought we were turning into Swansea? Make your mind up.

Are we not allowed the odd identity crisis?

punk_one82

Turtyturd wrote: »

Are we not allowed the odd identity crisis?

This is our second identity crisis in as many seasons.

Caovyn Lineah

Well lads.

googled eyes

Turtyturd wrote:

Are we not allowed the odd identity crisis?

punk_one82 wrote:

This is our second identity crisis in as many seasons.

Just an average fortnight for some people

googled eyes

Caovyn Lineah wrote:

Well lads.

Perfect timing Caovyn

5starpool

Jon Stark wrote: »

Eh, didn't Henderson just go to the US over his heel? If it was that much of a concern wtf was he doing training?

He got injections for that heel injury, returned to training, and then broke his other foot.

Potential Underachiever

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Well lads.

Y'alright?

5starpool

Ah jaysus. I predict an upturn in bannings very soon.

googled eyes

Rumour has it that Joe Allen figured we had too many midfielders

He wanted to break back into the team

Caovyn Lineah

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Y'alright?

Nice summer, you?

Gbear

If Coavyn had joined the sack Rodgers brigade in the mean time would a load of ye get confused and start having second thoughts?:pac:

Jon Stark

5starpool wrote: »

He got injections for that heel injury, returned to training, and then broke his other foot.

Injections are never a good thing, likely means the injury hasn't gone away. I know it's the other foot he broke but I believe if someone isn't right then it makes them susceptible in general. Like it might effect their running style, balance, how they "take" a tackle.

I think that's partly Sturridge's issue anyway.

Turtyturd

Nobody mention breakfast, he's wearing a wire.

5starpool

Jon Stark wrote: »

Injections are never a good thing, likely means the injury hasn't gone away. I know it's the other foot he broke but I believe if someone isn't right then it makes them susceptible in general. Like it might effect their running style, balance, how they "take" a tackle.

I think that's partly Sturridge's issue anyway.

Well he has plenty of time for that injury to heal properly now anyhow.

NukaCola

Augeo wrote: »

Lucas, Allen, can, rossiter, other chap from midweek, Milner, coutinho, ferminio, Ibe.... Plenty of options imo, Henderson is a loss but not anywhere near sturridge levels... These things happen.

"Lucas, Allen, can, rossiter, other chap from midweek, Milner" are our options for the middle. Piss poor. Plenty of options but no quality.

Coutinho/Firmino would be destroyed in the middle. Not sure why you've added Ibe in as an option.

Soft and easy to play against in general, and I agree about Henderson, we are already lacking in the middle.

Caovyn Lineah

NukaCola wrote: »

"Lucas, Allen, can, rossiter, other chap from midweek, Milner" are our options for the middle. Piss poor. Plenty of options but no quality.

Coutinho/Firmino would be destroyed in the middle. Not sure why you've added Ibe in as an option.

Soft and easy to play against in general, and I agree about Henderson, we are already lacking in the middle.

Milner isn't quality? Interesting.

MightyMandarin

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Well lads.

So you still in love with Rodgers or have you seen enough?

NukaCola

NukaCola wrote: »

"Lucas, Allen, can, rossiter, other chap from midweek, Milner" are our options for the middle. Piss poor. Plenty of options but no quality.

Coutinho/Firmino would be destroyed in the middle. Not sure why you've added Ibe in as an option.

Soft and easy to play against in general, and I agree about Henderson, we are already lacking in the middle.

He's a midfielder, winger .... advanced player. Why wouldn't I list him?

I listed all our midfield options, I wasn't suggesting all the listed players are direct Henderson replacements.

klose

awful news but hopefully means dropping coutinho back a bit deeper like the season before last.

Kerrigooney

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hamKl-su8PE

So back to the big picture, Arsenal 3 pts ahead and we have a game in hand, Chelsea same as us, 7 pts and we have a game in hand.

Utd (3 pts ahead of us) playing away to away to S'ton tomorrow and we are at home to Norwich.

Spurs at home to C' Pal are a point behind us currently.

Everton a pt ahead are away to Swansea.

3 pts tomorrow for Liverpool and we are not in a bad position after 6 PL games imo.

5starpool

Augeo wrote: »

So back to the big picture, Arsenal 3 pts ahead and we have a game in hand, Chelsea same as us, 7 pts and we have a game in hand.

Utd (3 pts ahead of us) playing away to away to S'ton tomorrow and we are at home to Norwich.

Spurs at home to C' Pal are a point behind us currently.

Everton a pt ahead are away to Swansea.

3 pts tomorrow for Liverpool and we are not in a bad position after 6 PL games imo.

So another terrible performance but a 1-0 win and everything will be rosy?

Potential Underachiever

5starpool wrote: »

So another terrible performance but a 1-0 win and everything will be rosy?

No, he didn't say that, he said a win and we're not in a bad position after 6 games.

5starpool

5starpool wrote: »

So another terrible performance but a 1-0 win and everything will be rosy?

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

No, he didn't say that, he said a win and we're not in a bad position after 6 games.

Indeed, even if we win 5 - 0 or so everything won't be rosy. We need a run that yields a decent PL points haul to keep us close to or better than 2ppg and we nee to profgess in the EL.

At the moment things arent even rosey for man city after losing the lead & the game midweek.

One can be fully behind the current regime without thinking all is rosey.

5starpool

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

No, he didn't say that, he said a win and we're not in a bad position after 6 games.

Thanks, I can read. I also don't just look at a league table to blindly judge how things are going. I want to look forward to seeing us play with a sense of excitement and hope rather than dread.

5starpool

Augeo wrote: »

One can be fully behind the current regime without thinking all is rosey.

Well not really. Fully behind means that you are happy with everything they are doing (within reason), and there are so many things we are doing wrong now that it's hard to be fully behind the current regime.