Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

Fair play to SOS for highlighting these issues.

Not allowing flags/banners is BS. The atmosphere is bad enough as it is. Why kill it even more.

Gbear

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

That match thread is going to be a horrible horrible place. Good luck to all redmen who enter.

Nah.

You've only yourself to blame if you get covered in ****e after diving head first into a cesspit.

mormank

mosstin wrote: »

Slowly but surely everything that made the club special is being stripped away. This will make a very poor atmosphere even worse. I HATE this sanitised, corporate thing football, in the PL especially, has become.
As a side note - can't remember the last time there was so much apathy facing into a United match. From both sides.

Well I've gone and taken the day off work for it anyway, I'm far from apathetic!

Agent Coulson

Allan Rodrigues de Souza's brilliant debut goal

https://twitter.com/MrBoywunder/status/642068561515671552

Kerrigooney

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Allan Rodrigues de Souza's brilliant debut goal

https://twitter.com/MrBoywunder/status/642068561515671552

Were they playing on ice?

Agent Coulson

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Were they playing on ice?

It's in Finland so probably.

OwaynOTT

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Has he posted a selfie yet?

5starpool

The club will probably start handing out little plastic flags instead soon.

Shudder.

~Rebel~

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Allan Rodrigues de Souza's brilliant debut goal

https://twitter.com/MrBoywunder/status/642068561515671552

A hint of Ronaldinho's against Chelsea in that.

garra

Out of the 3 amigos, I'm glad its Enrique thats staying.. he could reach a decent level again if his body & head allows it

googled eyes

It's only Thursday and Super-rush brings anarchy to the match thread.

Turtyturd

Should have closed his account an re-regged to avoid the card.

redzerdrog

Turtyturd wrote: »

Should have closed his account an re-regged to avoid the card.

Surely that would never be tolerated!

NukaCola

Turtyturd wrote: »

Should have closed his account an re-regged to avoid the card.

All rarnes accounts anyway.

MD1990

https://twitter.com/AnfieldHQ96/status/642101841568923649

Grayditch

I bet he'll be decent.

Agent Coulson

Two up front about time.

googled eyes

Agent Coulson wrote:

Two up front about time.

Plot twist: Ings upfront on his own and Benteke is beside Skrtel in defense

mada999

kfallon wrote: »

If you want to talk about great goals against Man Utd....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOkZOcMjBe4

Go to 2min 33sec here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_2MJRUBxVw

And of course Peter B's hat trick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY3cJwsRttY

the one-two quick passing was unreal... can we have it back please??

martyos121

googled eyes wrote: »

Plot twist: Ings upfront on his own and Benteke is beside Skrtel in defense

Couldn't be any worse than Vleron.

Knex*

Or we end up with no presence in midfield whatsoever, in front of a shaky backline, and lose two or three nil.

Agent Coulson

Steven Gerrard.

‘I don’t know if I am going to be good enough to be a manager, or a No 1, No 2, No 3 or No 4.
‘Liverpool replaced coaches Colin Pascoe and Mike Marsh in the summer, so they were looking for a new No 2, or No 3 or No 4. I would have been tailor-made to fill one of these roles, as well as making myself available as a squad player.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3229811/Steven-Gerrard-exclusive-stayed-Liverpool-offered-right-job.html

OwaynOTT

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Steven Gerrard.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3229811/Steven-Gerrard-exclusive-stayed-Liverpool-offered-right-job.html

Maybe I'm thivk but what the fcuk is he on about there?
I probably not good enough to be either the manager or the no. 1 or any number but I think I would have been perfect to be a Liverpool coaching number.

~Rebel~

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Maybe I'm thivk but what the fcuk is he on about there?
I probably not good enough to be either the manager or the no. 1 or any number but I think I would have been perfect to be a Liverpool coaching number.

I think he means more in the sense of "you never know if you're going to make the transition into management, but this would have been a good opportunity to try, with positions opening up".

Totally irrelevant and illogical argument in practice though, considering he agreed his Galaxy contract months before those positions opened up.

He's better off to be honest - actually do what he said he wanted to do, stay playing as long as you can, and then give management a try. There will always be roles coming up in the club, at least every 1 or 2 years. The time for management is a hell of a lot longer than the time for playing, so best to take full advantage while he can.

Kirby

The vast majority of todays players wont go into management. Most of them have so much money they dont need to, and the broke ones that do need the money find media work a much easier option.

Vicxas

Is anyone else dreading tomorrow evenings match after the West Ham performance.

Kerrigooney

Vicxas wrote: »

Is anyone else dreading tomorrow evenings match after the West Ham performance.

Not so much. Utd have been garbage so far as well.

Grayditch

I'd really like Rodgers to get the tactics right for this one. I know he's missing players, but this is what he's trained for. West Ham made him, and us look like amateurs.

kfallon

Will we be going with a diamond tomorrow?

BullBlackNova

kfallon wrote: »

Will we be going with a diamond tomorrow?

If Ings is starting as rumoured I would say so.

Henderson is still injured AFAIK so that'd be Lucas, Can, Milner, Firmino in a diamond midfield, hopefully Clyne and Moreno attacking full backs and Skrtel and a bag of sand in the centre of defence with Benteke and Ings up top.

SlickRic

I'm sorry, but if Steven Gerrard is telling the truth when he says he would've stayed had he been offered a coaching role, then the club needs a fúcking slap. Actually, more than a slap.

Utterly and completely stupid to let that experience and influence go when you don't have to.

Fúcking hell.

Tipsy McSwagger

Vicxas wrote: »

Is anyone else dreading tomorrow evenings match after the West Ham performance.

I'd take a draw right now.

54and56

SlickRic wrote: »

I'm sorry, but if Steven Gerrard is telling the truth when he says he would've stayed had he been offered a coaching role, then the club needs a fúcking slap. Actually, more than a slap.

Utterly and completely stupid to let that experience and influence go when you don't have to.

Fúcking hell.

Stevie made his mind up to go to LA back in November/December and announced it over the Xmas period IIRC. At that time there were no plans to shake up the coaching staff. After the poor end to the season the coaching staff was restructured which could have created an opportunity for Stevie to do a Gigg's type role whilst remaining as a squad player but by then Stevie was contracted to LA.

He'll be back when he's finished playing.

SlickRic

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

Stevie made his mind up to go to LA back in November/December and announced it over the Xmas period IIRC. At that time there were no plans to shake up the coaching staff. After the poor end to the season the coaching staff was restructured which could have created an opportunity for Stevie to do a Gigg's type role whilst remaining as a squad player but by then Stevie was contracted to LA.

He'll be back when he's finished playing.

Still no foresight by the club at all to keep Stevie on board.

There was no reason for him to leave.

Luckycharms_74

kfallon wrote: »

Will we be going with a diamond tomorrow?

Brendan thinks so

Iused2likebusts

kfallon wrote: »

Will we be going with a diamond tomorrow?

He could go 352
Mig
Skrtel lovren gomez
Clyne lucas firmino milner moreno
Ings benteke

Demosthenese

SlickRic wrote: »

Still no foresight by the club at all to keep Stevie on board.

There was no reason for him to leave.

There was every reason for him to leave, he wants to play football and as much as possible. He was never the type to sit on the bench for any game and decided that he could not be like a Giggs type player who would stick around long after he was deserving of a place in the squad.

He'll get a few years playing in America enjoy the experience and then come back hopefully with badges etc in tow. After that you never know.

54and56

SlickRic wrote: »

Still no foresight by the club at all to keep Stevie on board.

There was no reason for him to leave.

There is/was actually. It's important for any individuals development that they are exposed to and experience different set ups and environments. He'll be a more rounded and better coach/manager that he'd otherwise be if all he had to draw on was a lifetime with one single club.

Show me one example who played his entire career with one top echelon club then up through the coaching roles within the same club to become manager of the club and was a real success as manager?

There may well be some but off the top of my head I can't think of any. I guess you could point to Gary Monk but he was with a host of clubs before Swansea and they aren't a top echelon club with the expectations and pressures that come with that.

bur

SlickRic wrote: »

I'm sorry, but if Steven Gerrard is telling the truth when he says he would've stayed had he been offered a coaching role, then the club needs a fúcking slap. Actually, more than a slap.

Utterly and completely stupid to let that experience and influence go when you don't have to.

Fúcking hell.

Not for me, we'd now be looking at the very real prospect of him becoming player manager at some point this season if that had of happened.

PhiloCypher

SlickRic wrote: »

I'm sorry, but if Steven Gerrard is telling the truth when he says he would've stayed had he been offered a coaching role, then the club needs a fúcking slap. Actually, more than a slap.

Utterly and completely stupid to let that experience and influence go when you don't have to.

Fúcking hell.

At the time he announced his retirement we were still in with a chance at fourth and there unlikely to be any vacancies. It's a bit captain hindsight for him to suggest he should have been given one of their roles now. That's forgetting he was pretty unequivocal about hating having his games tailored, would they have been tailored any less in a Player/coach role ?

This piece read like a reaction to a piece earlier in the week where he claimed to love his anonymity in LA , its like he's afraid to say he is enjoying himself over there without doing a follow up interview where he says how much he loves liverpool and would have stay'd if only .....

Rightly or wrongly I don't know whether Gerrard would ever be considered for a coaching role while Rodgers was manager, especially off the back of a poor season. We've only lost the one game this season and people are calling for Rodgers head, if we went through any prelonged period of poor form the pressure to sack Rodgers and appoint Gerrard as caretaker manager would be huge. Rodgers was never gonna allow that. LvG can get away with having a club legend as his assistant because of his stature in the game but even he is under pressure with Giggs waiting in the wings.

If by some miracle we get Klopp or Ancelloti as our next manager I'd be all for Stevie being brought in to learn the ropes but it was simply never going to happen under Rodgers as it would have been too destabilizing.

corwill

Does Gerrard have his badges? Has he ever taken a training session with the youths or any other team? What actual coaching credentials does he have to justify giving him a senior coaching position at a club with Liverpool's stature?

Polo_Mint

PhiloCypher wrote: »

At the time he announced his retirement we were still in with a chance at fourth and there unlikely to be any vacancies.

If he suggest this to your club at the time they should have made a Vacancy.

Hes was I believe your greatest ever player and Outstanding Captain.

Could and Should be Assistant Manager of Liverpool.

Maybe he didnt say anything when he was leaving

Ah, Maybe this

Liverpool only offered him a new one-year contract in November, and neither the club nor Gerrard had any enthusiasm for him joining Rodgers’s coaching staff in the summer. “Steven had an ambassadorial role at the club but there wasn’t a coaching offer made to him,” said Rodgers. “Steven hasn’t got his badges and he is not the sort who would go into coaching blind. His focus was very much on the present, which means playing, because he believes he can play on beyond this season.”

corwill

Polo_Mint wrote: »

Could and Should be Assistant Manager of Liverpool

After several years of accumulating coaching experience and proving himself as a coach, certainly.

Polo_Mint

corwill wrote: »

After several years of accumulating coaching experience and proving himself as a coach, certainly.

Yeah Edited. Surprised he doesn't have coaching badges. Alot of players start them early.

Jon Stark

SlickRic wrote: »

I'm sorry, but if Steven Gerrard is telling the truth when he says he would've stayed had he been offered a coaching role, then the club needs a fúcking slap. Actually, more than a slap.

Utterly and completely stupid to let that experience and influence go when you don't have to.

Fúcking hell.

Not surprised Rodgers wouldn't be having that. A guy like Stevie would have massive influence in the dressing room as a coach, and rightly or wrongly, it was a shrewd move by Rodgers to dodge that situation. IF true of course.

Elsewhere, typical that United announce that new De Gea deal a day before this game, reminds me of the kind of stroke Ferguson used to pull.

garra

bur wrote: »

Not for me, we'd now be looking at the very real prospect of him becoming player manager at some point this season if that had of happened.

Agree totally, having someone of the stature of Gerrard lurking in the management structure when things are not going well for the manager in the seat (whether it is Rodgers or ANOther) could be a recipe for disaster, as it would be all too easy to undermine the manager - especially when considering the UK media who would be pushing and dragging Gerrard into the hot seat by any means possible.

DaveSuarez

Grayditch wrote: »

I'd really like Rodgers to get the tactics right for this one.

martyos121

DaveSuarez wrote: »

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/pV9KVzG. gif[/IMG]

The people that won't get this are going to be awful confused.

Knex*

Have we lost the game yet?

Seriously don't think I've ever felt so "meh" about a game before, especially against United. Its the absolute incarnation of Danny Ings, in terms of a footballing spectacle. Maybe that's why he's penned in to start, who knows.

Maybe, the game is so Danny Ings, that he'll melt into the background, becoming one with himself, and we'll essentially be playing with ten players.

International Breaks are still very much an underwhelming pile of balls.

x43r0

DaveSuarez wrote: »

That is looped beautifully