Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

ThunbergsAreGo

LiamoSail wrote: »

I'm not disputing that. My point is simply that top 4 shouldn't be expected. Top4 means punching above weight.

Agree it is, we achieved below par last year with 6th. Its the lack of joy, fun, or direction that has me disenchanted.

Fromvert

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

What's the minimum for the league?

It should be 5th since we've the 5th highest wage bill by a huge margin to Spurs who are behind us and we have also spent more (both gross and net) than everyone bar United, City and Chelsea over the last 5 years. We should be closer to 4th than 6th.

Please don't say we've averaged 5th because of the outlier that was the 2013-1014 season. It was a great run at the title but we were awful the year before it and have declined rapidly after it. It's not the norm of how we've performed. He overachieved in one season, failed in the other two and isn't looking good this year.

2013 - Failed
2014- Overachieved
2015 - Failed
2016 - Well on his way to a fail

Caovyn Lineah

Fromvert wrote: »

It should be 5th since we've the 5th highest wage bill by a huge margin to Spurs who are behind us and we have also spent more (both gross and net) than everyone bar United, City and Chelsea over the last 5 years. We should be closer to 4th than 6th.

Please don't say we've averaged 5th because of the outlier that was the 2013-1014 season. It was a great run at the title but we were awful the year before it and have declined rapidly after it. It's not the norm of how we've performed. He overachieved in one season, failed in the other two and isn't looking good this year.

2013 - Failed
2014- Overachieved
2015 - Failed
2016 - Well on his way to a fail

We were awful in 12/13? That's painfully incorrect. We were fairly rubbish up until November that year, after that we were far from awful. If you are going to try and slate the man then at least have a bulls notion what you are talking about.

Fromvert

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

We were awful in 12/13? That's painfully incorrect. We were fairly rubbish up until November that year, after that we were far from awful. If you are going to try and slate the man then at least have a bulls notion what you are talking about.

We finished 7th and averaged 1.6 points a game. Is that not awful and well below what's expected?

Add in the cup form of

2013
League Cup - Fourth Round
FA Cup - Fourth Round
Europa League - Last 32

Sorry if my expectations are more than the above, but that's awful to me.

Caovyn Lineah

Fromvert wrote: »

We finished 7th and averaged 1.6 points a game. Is that not awful and well below what's expected?

From January to May we averaged 2.50 ppg. Is that awful? To say the whole season was awful is just plain incorrect.

Fromvert

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

From January to May we averaged 2.50 ppg. Is that awful? To say the whole season was awful is just plain incorrect.

Overall the season was awful, went on a great run when we were out of the run for everything.

What happened in the cups that year?

jpboard1

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Top 3? People who follow the league in Asia follow whoever is winning, Liverpool aren't even close to the draw we once were. Why do people need this explained? City, Chelsea, United and Arsenal are bigger clubs than Liverpool.

Audience figures say different.

ThunbergsAreGo

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

From January to May we averaged 2.50 ppg. Is that awful? To say the whole season was awful is just plain incorrect.

Did we really? Wouldnt have thought that

Fromvert

naughtb4 wrote: »

Did we really? Wouldnt have thought that

We didn't, he's lying. We averaged 1.83 points per game.

Turtyturd

Is that ppg number like the fact he posted the other day about our defence being better if you exclude certain games?

Fromvert

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

From January to May we averaged 2.50 ppg. Is that awful? To say the whole season was awful is just plain incorrect.

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

We were awful in 12/13? That's painfully incorrect. We were fairly rubbish up until November that year, after that we were far from awful. If you are going to try and slate the man then at least have a bulls notion what you are talking about.

Fromvert wrote: »

We didn't, he's lying. We averaged 1.83 points per game.

Maybe have a bulls notion before you spout nonsense.

Caovyn Lineah

Fromvert wrote: »

We didn't, he's lying. We averaged 1.83 points per game.

I posted a picture the other day that says differently. If that's not true then I'd take it up with Sky.

Trigger

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

From January to May we averaged 2.50 ppg. Is that awful? To say the whole season was awful is just plain incorrect.

Incorrect. From January 2013 to May 2013 ye had a league record of 9 wins 6 draws and 3 losses, 33 points and 1.83 ppg average, don't know where you are getting 2.5ppg from

Fromvert

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

I posted a picture the other day that says differently. If that's not true then I'd take it up with Sky.

I think you should go back and look at that picture.

Turtyturd

Fromvert wrote: »

I think you should go back and look at that picture.

Any chance you could post it?

5starpool

Fromvert wrote: »

We didn't, he's lying. We averaged 1.83 points per game.

Indeed. 33 points from 18 games from the start of January.

Caovyn Lineah

Fromvert wrote: »

I think you should go back and look at that picture.

Haha, I'm an idiot.

Hands up and admit I'm wrong.

jaykay74

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

I'm an idiot.

You won't find many to argue the point

Fromvert

Turtyturd wrote: »

Any chance you could post it?

Sorry, actually the one he posted could of said 2.5pts. There's a few shops of it going around but I did see one with 1.83pts per game. One also says he had 2.5pts from Jan to May last year which is also incorrect.

Fromvert

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Haha, I'm an idiot.

Hands up and admit I'm wrong.

Sorry I could be wrong about the one you posted, did'nt look back but have seen a few online now (after a google) that are wrong/shopped but also seen the correct one with 1.83 before so assumed it was that one.

Caovyn Lineah

jaykay74 wrote: »

You won't find many to argue the point

I hope you can handle all the thanks coming your way.

weldoninhio

Fromvert wrote: »

We didn't, he's lying. We averaged 1.83 points per game.

No, if can't be. Caomhin is wrong?!? I,I, just don't know what to believe anymore!!

5starpool

Even though it is all speculation still of course, there is an awful lot of smoke about Rodgers being effectively gone. We'll find out in the next few days though if there is any fire to match I suppose. If we don't win tomorrow though it'll set the flames going I'd say.

Caovyn Lineah

weldoninhio wrote: »

No, if can't be. Caomhin is wrong?!? I,I, just don't know what to believe anymore!!

Who's Caomhin?

Turtyturd

weldoninhio wrote: »

No, if can't be. Caomhin is wrong?!? I,I, just don't know what to believe anymore!!

In his defence it was sky's fault.

weldoninhio

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Who's Caomhin?

The lad that was completely wrong. It's a few posts up, I may have mispelt the name.

Tipsy McSwagger

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Has there been a player bought in the last 2 years who has improved after signing for LFC?

Take that as a no then

ThunbergsAreGo

I dont get the joy some get from ganging up against posters who dont share their view.

It was the anti Brendan group, now its the pro ones getting it from the masses

Tipsy McSwagger

naughtb4 wrote: »

I dont get the joy some get from ganging up against posters who dont share their view.

It was the anti Brendan group, now its the pro ones getting it from the masses

Nothing wrong with arguing as long as it doesn't get out of hand or personal or bullying

ThunbergsAreGo

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Nothing wrong with arguing as long as it doesn't get out of hand or personal or bullying

I appreciate that but he admits he was wrong and gets jumped on.

Hes not Brendan!!

Royal Legend

Gerrard has shown himself to be an self obsessed clown with the extracts from his "new" autobiography. after slating Rafa, now he is having a go at Rodgers.

I always got the impression that both Gerrard and Carra thought that they were bigger than any manager at the club, that they were Liverpool. Rafa IMO fell out with both of them because he was the boss, Brendan licked both their holes, up to last season anyway, poor Bren is getting some kicking off of Stevie now.

P.S. If Stevie was in some people opinions Mr Liverpool, how is it that by publishing this crap, he is sh1tting over the club he claims he was forever loyal to?

Tipsy McSwagger

Royal Legend wrote: »

Gerrard has shown himself to be an self obsessed clown with the extracts from his "new" autobiography. after slating Rafa, now he is having a go at Rodgers.

I always got the impression that both Gerrard and Carra thought that they were bigger than any manager at the club, that they were Liverpool. Rafa IMO fell out with both of them because he was the boss, Brendan licked both their holes, up to last season anyway, poor Bren is getting some kicking off of Stevie now.

P.S. If Stevie was in some people opinions Mr Liverpool, how is it that by publishing this crap, he is sh1tting over the club he claims he was forever loyal to?

I still love him

LiamoSail

Royal Legend wrote: »

Gerrard has shown himself to be an self obsessed clown with the extracts from his "new" autobiography. after slating Rafa, now he is having a go at Rodgers.

I always got the impression that both Gerrard and Carra thought that they were bigger than any manager at the club, that they were Liverpool. Rafa IMO fell out with both of them because he was the boss, Brendan licked both their holes, up to last season anyway, poor Bren is getting some kicking off of Stevie now.

P.S. If Stevie was in some people opinions Mr Liverpool, how is it that by publishing this crap, he is sh1tting over the club he claims he was forever loyal to?

You were saying his new book was great the other day, that it Reflected very well on him and the club

Royal Legend

Royal Legend wrote: »

Gerrard has shown himself to be an self obsessed clown with the extracts from his "new" autobiography. after slating Rafa, now he is having a go at Rodgers.

I always got the impression that both Gerrard and Carra thought that they were bigger than any manager at the club, that they were Liverpool. Rafa IMO fell out with both of them because he was the boss, Brendan licked both their holes, up to last season anyway, poor Bren is getting some kicking off of Stevie now.

P.S. If Stevie was in some people opinions Mr Liverpool, how is it that by publishing this crap, he is sh1tting over the club he claims he was forever loyal to?

You need to seperate what these footballers are like as people, and what they are like as footballers.

Regarding what Gerrard said about the Chelsea game. He was spot on btw

jesus_thats_gre

rarnes1 wrote: »

Regarding what Gerrard said about the Chelsea game. He was spot on btw

Topic of much discussion here at the time. I ****ing slated him for it at the time IIRC.

Caovyn Lineah

naughtb4 wrote: »

I appreciate that but he admits he was wrong and gets jumped on.

Hes not Brendan!!

Trust me, those 2 posters don't bother me in the slightest.

They have both shown themselves to be....... (if I continue I'll get a ban so I'll stop here).

Needless to say I'm still waiting on Tipsy to take me up on my offer of a bet, he seems to just continually ignore me when it's mentioned. Weldoninhio has been shown to lie about the team he supports so I just cannot take him seriously.

Their obsession with me is cute though.

Caovyn Lineah

rarnes1 wrote: »

You need to seperate what these footballers are like as people, and what they are like as footballers.

Regarding what Gerrard said about the Chelsea game. He was spot on btw

What did he say?

happyoutscan

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

What did he say?

Reckoned BR was overconfident, that they would give Chelsea a proper beating. Something along those lines.

Caovyn Lineah

happyoutscan wrote: »

Reckoned BR was overconfident, that they would give Chelsea a proper beating. Something along those lines.

He was well within his rights to be confident though in fairness.

5starpool

Turtyturd wrote: »

Is that ppg number like the fact he posted the other day about our defence being better if you exclude certain games?

If you exclude the games the opposition scored more than us we haven't lost under Rodgers at all.

Royal Legend

LiamoSail wrote: »

You were saying his new book was great the other day, that it Reflected very well on him and the club

hmmmmmmm, you will have to show me that post, his first AB was a sh1t read, maybe he felt he had to be controversial to get better sales.

As a footballer he was peerless, as a person, he leaves a lot to be desired.

~Rebel~

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

He was well within his rights to be confident though in fairness.

Confidence is one thing, but setting the team up with a strategy of all out attack in our last really tough game, which we didn't need to win, was clearly a mistake.

Do hate this book rubbish from Gerrard though, it's utterly pointless. He's exceptionally wealthy. If he really wants to release a book to get things off his chest, do it when his career is finished and then be completely honest. From the excerpts i've read so far, he doesn't come across very well..

Caovyn Lineah

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Confidence is one thing, but setting the team up with a strategy of all out attack in our last really tough game, which we didn't need to win, was clearly a mistake.

Do hate this book rubbish from Gerrard though, it's utterly pointless. He's exceptionally wealthy. If he really wants to release a book to get things off his chest, do it when his career is finished and then be completely honest. From the excerpts i've read so far, he doesn't come across very well..

I'm sure it was discussed plenty at the time but if we had abandoned the style of play that got us so far that season he would have been destroyed by fans and the media. We weren't able to play defensively so it would have been a pointless exercise.

mosstin

Multi-millionaire footballer writes a book. Pisses a few people off. Happened before, will happen again.
Gerrard, the footballer, gave me some wonderful feelings in the past 15 years - that's what'll come to mind when I think of him. I don't really give shit about his book.
If I wanted to dislike him, I'd use his love of Phil Collins as a starting point. Now he is fucking evil.

Grayditch

I don't hold it against Rodgers for setting up for all out attack against Chelsea, then. That's what I wanted at the time. It's what a lot of us wanted. To beat them. Turned out be be a little naive, but we had a lot of bad luck in that game. It's too easy to look back now and say what he should have done. We were on fire.

5starpool

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

I'm sure it was discussed plenty at the time but if we had abandoned the style of play that got us so far that season he would have been destroyed by fans and the media. We weren't able to play defensively so it would have been a pointless exercise.

We didn't need to play defensively, Chelsea weren't trying to score really. We were playing a suicidally high line that day. The team were probably feeding off the energy of the crowd though as the atmosphere for the first portion of the game was electric, as it was before the match as well, real hair raising stuff. The second half was far more nervous though.

LiamoSail

Royal Legend wrote: »

hmmmmmmm, you will have to show me that post, his first AB was a sh1t read, maybe he felt he had to be controversial to get better sales.

I was only bull****ting, but like anyone else, you had to respond when something false was written about you. As far as I'm concerned, that's all Gerrard is doing with the book; setting the record straight as he sees it

Disagree or whatever, but he's entitled to give his opinion now that he's away, and like anyone else in this world, his opinions on the various managers he's worked under aren't always going to be positive.

Caovyn Lineah

Grayditch wrote: »

I don't hold it against Rodgers for setting up for all out attack against Chelsea, then. That's what I wanted at the time. It's what a lot of us wanted. To beat them. Turned out be be a little naive, but we had a lot of bad luck in that game. It's too easy to look back now and say what he should have done. We were on fire.

It was the horrible tactics by Chelsea that annoyed me. Time wasting from the very first minute, no interest whatsoever in attacking. They could have played until July that year and still wouldn't have scored if not for Gerrards slip.

Mr.H

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

It was the horrible tactics by Chelsea that annoyed me. Time wasting from the very first minute, no interest whatsoever in attacking. They could have played until July that year and still wouldn't have scored if not for Gerrards slip.

Worst part about that season is everyone remembers Gerrards slip

IF and Im saying IF we won the league (even despite Gerrards slip) everyone would be talking about Kompanys slip (was it Coutinhos goal?)

Pepp1989

Could someone tell me please how I add someone to the ignore list? Before I unfollow the thread. Can't see the option on the mobile site.