Roz Purcell celeb wellness person

discodiva92

Why is she gettingso much media time?Is her advice good or just copy and paste job

Doug Cartel

She's probably friends with an editor in the Indo or something like that. That's how these things usually work.

Is there anything specific about her advice you have issue with?

groovyg

She has a blog natural born feeder which is very popular. I think her mantra is to cook using fresh ingredients and avoid processed foods she seems to cook vegan, vegetarian, gluten free paleo etc. She has a cook book coming out as well. Some of her recipes look pretty good, I'm not a vegan or vegetarian but I made her vegan lasange and it was gorgeous

discodiva92

No just seen alot of her in the media, social media people talking etc.i know 2 people that 80 euro to hear her talk with irish wellness in a hotel

Alf Veedersane

She already had a very public profile which lends itself to getting media exposure.

JJayoo

Lets be honest the girl is hot, that's why she's in the media.

Alf Veedersane

JJayoo wrote: »

Lets be honest the girl is hot, that's why she's in the media.

I thought it was cos she was on Celebrity Bainisteoir.

discodiva92

Like that other model rosanna davidson should they be giving advice on diet nutriiton when not experts

Ceepo

discodiva92 wrote: »

Like that other model rosanna davidson should they be giving advice on diet nutriiton when not experts

Is she giving advice on nutrition? Haven't seen it anywhere.

Alf Veedersane

discodiva92 wrote: »

Like that other model rosanna davidson should they be giving advice on diet nutriiton when not experts

But...but they're nutritionists.

Mars Bar

I follow her on instagram. I don't think she really gives out advice in terms of nutrition. She has some healthy and interesting recipes and that's good enough for me.

Transform

exactly both of them dont make a penny from working directly with clients so everything is just a 'suggestion' both of the girls mentioned NEVER talk about the basics of nutrition and focus mainly on foods that are gluten free, sugar free etc which is grand but never once a mention that e.g. the "sinless brownies" in a post there a few images back on her instagram will have about 250calories in a typical slice.

All that coconut, nuts, seeds, avocado, dates, (the foundation of all 'healthy' blogs right now) might be great from a food quality standpoint but FFS they're not calorie free and I spend my days coaching clients on this and the most common flaw with those eating 'healthy' is they take in wayyyyyyyy too many fats

heres a before and after example of a client of mine that has a great food blog also - https://instagram.com/p/64jQH8RMuF/?taken-by=primalpiggy

pic of the changes and little explaining from her (her after now would be even more impressive ) - https://instagram.com/p/6CxIa2RMgH/?taken-by=primalpiggy

so overall those girls mentioned just post recipes but often don't acknowledge the basics of nutrition e.g. calories ,macronutrient ratios etc and instead can mistakenly encourage people into actually eating MORE calories than they need just because something is seen or presented as 'healthy'

i wrote about all this here.

btw why does something have to be presented as sinless, guilt free etc eat the damn brownie if you want one just understand how it affects your goals or energy levels

themissymoo

Isn't she Bressie's girlfriend? Pretty sure she was a model at one stage, and placed in the top ten for Miss Universe by repping Ireland.

Transform

themissymoo wrote: »

Isn't she Bressie's girlfriend? Pretty sure she was a model at one stage, and placed in the top ten for Miss Universe by repping Ireland.

yup placed 7th.

I did a bit of training with her before she went to miss universe back in 2010

she knows her way around a gym and NOT afraid of getting in the hard work.

Alf Veedersane

Transform wrote: »

exactly both of them dont make a penny from working directly with clients so everything is just a 'suggestion' both of the girls mentioned NEVER talk about the basics of nutrition and focus mainly on foods that are gluten free, sugar free etc which is grand but never once a mention that e.g. the "sinless brownies" in a post there a few images back on her instagram will have about 250calories in a typical slice.

All that coconut, nuts, seeds, avocado, dates, (the foundation of all 'healthy' blogs right now) might be great from a food quality standpoint but FFS they're not calorie free and I spend my days coaching clients on this and the most common flaw with those eating 'healthy' is they take in wayyyyyyyy too many fats

heres a before and after example of a client of mine that has a great food blog also - https://instagram.com/p/64jQH8RMuF/?taken-by=primalpiggy

pic of the changes and little explaining from her (her after now would be even more impressive ) - https://instagram.com/p/6CxIa2RMgH/?taken-by=primalpiggy

so overall those girls mentioned just post recipes but often don't acknowledge the basics of nutrition e.g. calories ,macronutrient ratios etc and instead can mistakenly encourage people into actually eating MORE calories than they need just because something is seen or presented as 'healthy'

i wrote about all this here.

btw why does something have to be presented as sinless, guilt free etc eat the damn brownie if you want one just understand how it affects your goals or energy levels

Use the right buzzword with a recipe and watch the kcals within drop back to zero.

discodiva92

And these a good few more irish wellness celebs aswell

Transform

discodiva92 wrote: »

And these a good few more irish wellness celebs aswell

loads and many more on the way as already slim but 'unfit' gals realise that they can spend a month in the gym, start eating well and recreate themselves into 'health' experts

shutup

Her body is her business card. I'd say she knows what she's talking about.

Ceepo

Transform wrote: »

loads and many more on the way as already slim but 'unfit' gals realise that they can spend a month in the gym, start eating well and recreate themselves into 'health' experts

I wouldn't say Roz is "unfit" in fact I would sat the opposite

Alf Veedersane

Ceepo wrote: »

I wouldn't say Roz is "unfit" in fact I would sat the opposite

I don't think he was talking about Roz Purcell.

Ceepo

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I don't think he was talking about Roz Purcell.

My bad. I assumed they were as that's who the thread is about.

Alf Veedersane

Ceepo wrote: »

My bad. I assumed they were as that's who the thread is about.

I think he was more talking about more slebs getting ready to jump on the bandwagon. A few posts ago, it was mentioned that she knew her way around the gym and put in the work.

discodiva92

She prob had a good natural body tho?Im just seeing so many girls fawning over her food advice and as i said doing seminars and charging big money

discodiva92

Not doubting she goes to a gym

Alf Veedersane

discodiva92 wrote: »

She prob had a good natural body tho?Im just seeing so many girls fawning over her food advice and as i said doing seminars and charging big money

There's obviously a demand. Had a look to see if I could find anything on these seminars and on her blog she doesn't pretend to be an expert or have any qualifications

Transform

discodiva92 wrote: »

She prob had a good natural body tho?Im just seeing so many girls fawning over her food advice and as i said doing seminars and charging big money

yup she was in pretty good shape when i worked briefly with her before miss universe finals.

Transform

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

There's obviously a demand. Had a look to see if I could find anything on these seminars and on her blog she doesn't pretend to be an expert or have any qualifications

exactly, she post good recipes and readers make the link themselves. Nothing wrong about it at all but ANYONE can have "my body is my business card" BS logic going on yet not have a clue about basic nutrition. I did mention all this in the article i wrote on it or maybe the sinless brownies distracted y'all

discodiva92

Ah yeah she will make good money from the talks blogs books etc im sure fair play

Alf Veedersane

Transform wrote: »

exactly, she post good recipes and readers make the link themselves. Nothing wrong about it at all but ANYONE can have "my body is my business card" BS logic going on yet not have a clue about basic nutrition. I did mention all this in the article i wrote on it or maybe the sinless brownies distracted y'all

Pictures >>> words

JJayoo

Transform wrote: »

yup she was in pretty good shape when i worked briefly with her before miss universe finals.

When she came in 7th.......good work Transform, blowing our chances

Dtp1979

JJayoo wrote: »

When she came in 7th.......good work Transform, blowing our chances

7th in the whole universe though isn't bad

Transform

JJayoo wrote: »

When she came in 7th.......good work Transform, blowing our chances

well Donald Trump is the owner of that competition so cant help it if he doesnt appreciate a stunning looking irish woman

overall i think the work she produces is far better than most but still lacks some basic info that a 30mins chat with someone like me would set straight.

Im giving a talk at wellfest and think shes going also so maybe there is an opportunity there.

Alf Veedersane

Transform wrote: »

well Donald Trump is the owner of that competition so cant help it if he doesnt appreciate a stunning looking irish woman

There's none so blind as those who cannot see.....that their hairpiece is an abomination.

cloudatlas

Good article in the Guardian by Hadley Freeman on Healthy Eating Gurus

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/jun/27/new-wellness-bloggers-food-drink-hadley-freeman

Transform

cloudatlas wrote: »

Good article in the Guardian by Hadley Freeman on Healthy Eating Gurus

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/jun/27/new-wellness-bloggers-food-drink-hadley-freeman

damn great find, posting this up now and this line was spot on -

!And a lot of what these bloggers advocate – less sugar, more vegetables – is perfectly sensible. But it is often served up with a hefty side dish of misinformation and encouragement of food phobias. After all, being obsessive about healthy eating isn’t actually all that healthy".

Alf Veedersane

Transform wrote: »

After all, being obsessive about healthy eating isn’t actually all that healthy".

Reminds me of this big serving of sense:

http://sigmanutrition.com/is-the-most-nutritious-diet-the-healthiest-diet/

Howjoe1

discodiva92 wrote: »

Why is she gettingso much media time?Is her advice good or just copy and paste job

All cook books and diets are "copy and paste" jobs with a "twist" and nod to the latest fad/insecurity.

Don't think she's the worse out there by far.

For example, them two lads, The Happy Pear? always strike me as a pair of spoofers.

Transform

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Reminds me of this big serving of sense:

http://sigmanutrition.com/is-the-most-nutritious-diet-the-healthiest-diet/

yip and i had a good 'chat' with a client in the other day exactly on this i.e. was just over 100lbs in weight (5ft 1) and wanted frequent body fat tests, wants the ins and outs of every diet myth and tid bit of info out there.

The stressing about food and overly focusing of training on the aesthetics is a major problem for some people.

i continually came back to better performance in the gym e.g. lets get you to be able to perform a push up from the floor, a chin up etc as opposed to adding fuel to an already poor self image.

Collection of knowledge does not mean wisdom

Transform

Howjoe1 wrote: »

All cook books and diets are "copy and paste" jobs with a "twist" and nod to the latest fad/insecurity.

Don't think she's the worse out there by far.

For example, them two lads, The Happy Pear? always strike me as a pair of spoofers.

they ALL have very similar issues - basics on nutrition is the main one.

The happy pear guys are super nice guys but their take on heart disease and the role fat plays (doesnt play) in it is just laughable in the extreme.

for example here

yes you read that right -

- diet less than 10% fat
- no nuts
- no eggs of any kind
- no avocado (thats the vegan stable out the window so)
- no dairy products


hey its only €99 for 8 weeks on their online happy heart course

they basically swallowed the china study and took it as gospel (this was debunked wayyyy back in 2010 by denise minger here )

lovely lads but havent an absolute rashers about nutrition.

Alf Veedersane

Transform wrote: »

they ALL have very similar issues - basics on nutrition is the main one.

The happy pear guys are super nice guys but their take on heart disease and the role fat plays (doesnt play) in it is just laughable in the extreme.

for example here

yes you read that right -

- diet less than 10% fat
- no nuts
- no eggs of any kind
- no avocado (thats the vegan stable out the window so)
- no dairy products


hey its only €99 for 8 weeks on their online happy heart course

they basically swallowed the china study and took it as gospel (this was debunked wayyyy back in 2010 by denise minger here )

lovely lads but havent an absolute rashers about nutrition.

Ah jaysus...poor Denise.

What a surname.

groovyg

cloudatlas wrote: »

Good article in the Guardian by Hadley Freeman on Healthy Eating Gurus

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/jun/27/new-wellness-bloggers-food-drink-hadley-freeman

That's a great article, and a real eye opener. I think some of those food bloggers are a bit obsessed about healthy eating and food in general which to be honest is not healthy at all.
They all seem to have food allergies or some digestive issue and choose to give up wheat/ dairy/ etc. I had to laugh at Deliciously Ella's ignorance

Woodward was asked by a commenter why she doesn’t use millet in her recipes: “I don’t use millet as it contains gluten and all my recipes are gluten-free. Hope you love the recipes! X,” she explained in her characteristically chatty style.

Her loyal followers pointed out that millet does not, in fact, contain gluten. Woodward, undaunted, simply moved the goalposts: “I prefer to stay away from millet as I personally find it difficult to digest. Have a nice day! X,” she replied

:eek:

I think Susan Jane White is the Irish equivalent of Ella Woodward, their blog and recipes seem similar.

iwillhtfu

discodiva92 wrote: »

Like that other model rosanna davidson should they be giving advice on diet nutriiton when not experts

Absolutely no comparison between the two one is an accomplished Model/entrepreneur/Triathlete and from what I've seen a decent skin that didn't come from money and earned her stripes.

The other well she's fame hungry and has the financial backing to fail at whatever whim passes her mind next. Also I've yet to see her split times for DCM.:D

I don't think either claim to be nutritionists more of a social media I eat this to help me look like this kind of thing. The recipes are handy to pick and choose between and gives people an alternative.

Alf Veedersane

iwillhtfu wrote: »

I don't think either claim to be nutritionists more of a social media I eat this to help me look like this kind of thing. The recipes are handy to pick and choose between and gives people an alternative.

Well Rosanna Davidson's website is Rosanna Davidson Nutrition and the About Me section starts with "As a qualified and insured Nutritional Therapist and a graduate of the College of Naturopathic Medicine"

Transform

groovyg wrote: »

That's a great article, and a real eye opener. I think some of those food bloggers are a bit obsessed about healthy eating and food in general which to be honest is not healthy at all.
They all seem to have food allergies or some digestive issue and choose to give up wheat/ dairy/ etc. I had to laugh at Deliciously Ella's ignorance

:eek:

I think Susan Jane White is the Irish equivalent of Ella Woodward, their blog and recipes seem similar.

SJ white is certainly cut from the same cloth as again no mention of the calories or even a warning that certain recipes you might need to pull back on the portions

Transform

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Well Rosanna Davidson's website is Rosanna Davidson Nutrition and the About Me section starts with "As a qualified and insured Nutritional Therapist and a graduate of the College of Naturopathic Medicine"

exactly and Ros Purcell is currently studying on a similar course right now

gordongekko

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Well Rosanna Davidson's website is Rosanna Davidson Nutrition and the About Me section starts with "As a qualified and insured Nutritional Therapist and a graduate of the College of Naturopathic Medicine"

Are her playboy pics on it? If not I'm not googling her website.

Transform

gordongekko wrote: »

Are her playboy pics on it? If not I'm not googling her website.

LMFAO

Alf Veedersane

gordongekko wrote: »

Are her playboy pics on it? If not I'm not googling her website.

I didn't click through to see the gluten-free baps in case it was the NSFW stuff

Transform

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I didn't click through to see the gluten-free baps in case it was the NSFW stuff

well played sir

but of course hers are all natural and free range, lol

My Darling Clementine

Those happy pear lads come across as an older, more D4 version of Jedward

Absolute spoofers

discus

The term wellness makes me physically ill. It conjures up images of Herbalife, The Sunday Independent and Celtic Tigeresque nonsense.