Would you date someone who was overweight ?

Tarzana2

tomwaterford wrote: »

Like the drug dealer ones :pac:

EXACTLY like the drug dealer ones, yes. :pac::D

Sergei Malatov

Curvy women are beautiful.

Tarzana2

Sergei Malatov wrote: »

Curvy women are beautiful.

Well, a size 6 woman can be curvy so that's kind of a different thing.

Penny Tration

Tarzana2 wrote: »

EXACTLY like the drug dealer ones, yes. :pac::D

The drug dealer ones are smaller and weigh to approximately 0.01g.

I swear I don't use them for drugs I use them for mixing ingredients to make eliquid for my ecig :pac:

Tarzana2

Penny Tration wrote: »

The drug dealer ones are smaller and weigh to approximately 0.01g.

I swear I don't use them for drugs

Ssssssssuuuuurrre. :pac:

Medusa22

Penny Tration wrote: »

The drug dealer ones are smaller and weigh to approximately 0.01g.

I swear I don't use them for drugs I use them for mixing ingredients to make eliquid for my ecig :pac:

Now we know how you lost the weight Penny, speed and cocaine diet

homerjay2005

Sergei Malatov wrote: »

Curvy women are beautiful.

the word Curvy gets over used far too much in recent years and at times is used as an excuse to justify people being over weight.

you can be curvy and still be a size 10 or a size 12, however a woman thats "plus size" isnt curvy, she normally is obese.

ThinkProgress

Medusa22 wrote: »

No, I am trying to help you understand that everyone has different vices, be it a sweet tooth or a penchant for betting on the horses or smoking 50 cigarettes a day. It is incredibly easy for me to say to a smoker, ''just stop smoking, it's bad for your health, you are causing other people harm with your passive smoking, it is as simple as not lighting up''. It is easy for me to say that as a non-smoker, because I'm not addicted to nicotine, and I could just as easily tell someone who enjoys having a drink to put the bottle of vodka down, because I don't feel like I desperately need a drink.

Everyone has to try to exercise self-control when it comes to eating, of course they do, but for some people it is more difficult than for others, as food is their particular vice, the thing that they do to relax/comfort themselves/ as a form of socialisation (meeting people and going for a meal), recreation - cooking and enjoying what you make.

However, I am not saying that this means that it is impossible for someone who is overweight to lose weight, as I have lost a lot of weight myself, even though food is definitely one of my vices, so I am not excusing people who are overweight, I am merely trying to explain to you that people have different vices and it affects how difficult it is for them to remain dedicated to a healthy eating plan.

Exactly. Everyone... (all of us) have vices and weaknesses and obstacles that get in the way. Did you think you were telling me something I don't already know?

But not everyone puts the same effort and dedication into getting past those issues. Some people like to blame everyone else and look for excuses!

And then you have the apologists and enablers who often make it doubly difficult for them, by indulging those excuses. (and suggesting a few more too)

Just because some of us on here can see through the BS excuses, doesn't mean we think of ourselves as being perfect or faultless.

That's just the typical knee jerk reaction that most people have when anyone has the nerve to call someone out on their BS...

You're right, it's incredibly simple to tell someone to eat healthier and exercise more. But it's also the one thing most people don't want to hear... they want ANYTHING else rather than that advice.

People who are allergic to hard work and self discipline, will latch onto literally anything else rather than that advice.

You think it's very simple and obvious, and that most people are already aware of it... but so many people run away from it and put their faith in other things. (usually gimmicks)

It might be obvious advice, but so many people are going around in denial. Praying for some miracle or magic bullet... and there is an army of people trying to sell them that miracle.

That's why it's very important to keep cutting through the lies and BS... even if it makes you very unpopular. It's the right thing to do.

When I see lies/excuses/gimmicks/fraudsters etc... it makes me angry and frustrated, because I know many people will put their trust in that bad advice.

Maybe we should just stop caring and let people believe whatever BS they want...!? Mutually assured destruction! Is that the answer??

Sergei Malatov

Personally I like curvy girls and even girls who are a little on the fatter side.

Don't get me wrong, I like thin girls too.

I just like having some bum and boobs to look at and feel.

Dial Hard

Tarzana2 wrote:

Well, a size 6 woman can be curvy so that's kind of a different thing.

This x 1,000,000.

To me, curves on a slim frame is by far the most attractive body type. Think the female professionals on Dancing with the Stars and you have a) my definition of "curvy" and b) my ideal body type

PTH2009

Women just have to click there fingers and a guy will go home with them after a night out.

A certain race of people like overweight women because it signals wealth

Penny Tration

PTH2009 wrote: »

Women just have to click there fingers and a guy will go home with them after a night out.

A certain race of people like overweight women because it signals wealth

Ah would ya stop with the silly generalisations

One eyed Jack

PTH2009 wrote: »

Women just have to click there fingers and a guy will go home with them after a night out.

Speak for yourself.

A certain race of people like overweight women because it signals wealth

Overweight women signal wealth? First I've heard of it, and a total contradiction to the stereotype being bandied about in this thread so far?

Not sure what the race thing is about, there are many people of all colours who are sexually attracted to people of all colours who are overweight?

But you say there's a 'certain' race that prefer overweight wealthy women?

Bizarre, vague, and utter nonsense.

mynameis905

Worked out my own BMI (34) and did a quick search online to see how other people with the same BMI as myself looked. At 4' 11" and 12 stone in weight this lady is technically obese at a BMI of 34 but I'd certainly take her out on a date any day of the week.

Source: http://www.cockeyed.com/photos/bodies/411-170.html

meeeeh

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Speak for yourself.





Overweight women signal wealth? First I've heard of it, and a total contradiction to the stereotype being bandied about in this thread so far?

Not sure what the race thing is about, there are many people of all colours who are sexually attracted to people of all colours who are overweight?

But you say there's a 'certain' race that prefer overweight wealthy women?

Bizarre, vague, and utter nonsense.

I think wrong expression was used, it should be cultures not races. There are cultural differences and different cultures geographically and historically do prefer different body shapes. Larger body could symbol wealth or fertility.

On different subject, I hate word curvy with passion. It belongs to the same group of words as bubbly (if you can't use proper name for the variety of sparkling wine then don't drink it), lippy (seriously) or fab.

Tarzana2

homerjay2005 wrote: »

the word Curvy gets over used far too much in recent years and at times is used as an excuse to justify people being over weight.

you can be curvy and still be a size 10 or a size 12, however a woman thats "plus size" isnt curvy, she normally is obese.

Meh, I don't really mind if someone overweight refers to themself as curvy. People get way too worked up about that, IMO. It doesn't affect anyone else if someone refers to themself that way, even if it is inaccurate. (And it's not always inaccurate. Even when Nigella Lawson was quite overweight, she was still hourglass shaped)

Why should anyone who is overweight have to justify their appearance to anyone else? Why would you think someone called themself curvy is an excuse? That implies having to explain themselves to someone.

Tarzana2

meeeeh wrote: »

On different subject, I hate word curvy with passion. It belongs to the same group of words as bubbly (if you can't use proper name for the variety of sparkling wine then don't drink it), lippy (seriously) or fab.

Ha ha, spot on. This is probably my biggest problem with the current usage of the word. :pac:

One eyed Jack

Tarzana2 wrote: »

Meh, I don't really mind if someone overweight refers to themself as curvy. People get way too worked up about that, IMO. It doesn't affect anyone else if someone refers to themself that way, even if it is inaccurate. (And it's not always inaccurate. Even when Nigella Lawson was quite overweight, she was still hourglass shaped)

Why should anyone who is overweight have to justify their appearance to anyone else? Why would you think someone called themself curvy is an excuse? That implies having to explain themselves to someone.

It's a bit like saying "I hate when people describe themselves as white, they're pink".

Unless of course they literally have chalky white skin.

Dial Hard

Tarzana2 wrote:

Why should anyone who is overweight have to justify their appearance to anyone else? Why would you think someone called themself curvy is an excuse? That implies having to explain themselves to someone.

I have to hold my hands up and admit that, as a woman who considers herself curvy in the genuine sense of the word (5'7", 9s 12lb, size 8/10, 34DD-26-35), curvy as a euphemism for fat *does* bother me.

Bulges are not curves, sorry. And looking curvy while spanxed and girdled to within an inch of your life doesn't count either. Mind you, that applies to women at all points on the weight spectrum.

Anyway, let the opprobrium commence.

Tarzana2

Dial Hard wrote: »

I have to hold my hands up and admit that, as a woman who considers herself curvy in the genuine sense of the word (5'7", 9s 12lb, size 8/10, 34DD-26-35), curvy as a euphemism for fat *does* bother me.

Why though? Someone erroneously referring to themselves as curvy doesn't detract from the figure of the girl who is genuinely curvy. Her figure isn't any less desirable because someone overweight self-described as curvy.

One eyed Jack

Dial Hard wrote: »

I have to hold my hands up and admit that, as a woman who considers herself curvy in the genuine sense of the word, curvy as a euphemism for fat *does* bother me.

Bulges are not curves, sorry. And looking curvy while spanxed and girdled to within an inch of your life doesn't count either. Mind you, that applies to women at all points on the weight spectrum.

Anyway, let the opprobrium commence.

I had to look up that word as given your stats, I was left very confused...

I don't think anyone can criticise that tbh!

(I edited out the stats when quoting your post in case you want to avoid a full PM inbox later on )

Penny Tration

mynameis905 wrote: »

Worked out my own BMI (34) and did a quick search online to see how other people with the same BMI as myself looked. At 4' 11" and 12 stone in weight this lady is technically obese at a BMI of 34 but I'd certainly take her out on a date any day of the week.

Source: http://www.cockeyed.com/photos/bodies/411-170.html

Technically? she's visibly obese, in the picture you linked of her sitting at a piano.

Dial Hard

Tarzana2 wrote:

Why though? Someone erroneously referring to themselves as curvy doesn't detract from the figure of the girl who is genuinely curvy. Her figure isn't any less desirable because someone overweight self-described as curvy.

I think it's because people don't really knoe what curvy means anymore. The word is essentially meaningless now, if Beth Ditto is "curvy" but so is Jennifer Lawrence. It ties into the creeping normalisation of being overweight for me, I think. The fact of the matter is that a lot of people can't actually identify what's overweight and what's not anymore.

One eyed Jack

Dial Hard wrote: »

I think it's because people don't really knoe what curvy means anymore. The word is essentially meaningless now, if Beth Ditto is "curvy" but so is Jennifer Lawrence. It ties into the creeping normalisation of being overweight for me, I think. The fact of the matter is that a lot of people can't actually identify what's overweight and what's not anymore.

Actually, reading your post reminded me of the oft trotted out "real woman", or "real man" nonsense, as if somehow everyone else is just a poor facsimile of some sort?

That, to me is the kind of delusion being marketed by idiots, for idiots.

OneOfThem

Don't really get the objections to people describing themselves or others that are a bit fat as 'curvy' either. Sure no harm. When people start going on about 'real women' makes me want to smack them upside the head though. I dunno, curvy, just people trying to make themselves feel better I guess. 'Real women' is just fvcking catty and snide though.

meeeeh

There was approximate calculation we used to have. Substract 110 from your height in cm and you get your slim weight in kg, substract 120 and you get model weight but you need decent height for that.

At 150 cm and 77kg the girl in the link is 4 stone overweight.

mynameis905

Penny Tration wrote: »

Technically? she's visibly obese, in the picture you linked of her sitting at a piano.

I don't see any piano in the pic I liked to http://www.cockeyed.com/photos/bodies/l/411-170_Cristen_L1.jpg

Tarzana2

Dial Hard wrote: »

I think it's because people don't really knoe what curvy means anymore. The word is essentially meaningless now, if Beth Ditto is "curvy" but so is Jennifer Lawrence. It ties into the creeping normalisation of being overweight for me, I think. The fact of the matter is that a lot of people can't actually identify what's overweight and what's not anymore.

I think overweight women who self-describe as curvy know very well that they are overweight and say it to make themselves feel better. As for the word changing meaning, possibly, but welcome to the evolution of language!

tomwaterford

Tarzana2 wrote: »

I think overweight women who self-describe as curvy know very well that they are overweight and say it to make themselves feel better.

If a man said this they'd be slated :pac:

Tarzana2

OneOfThem wrote: »

Don't really get the objections to people describing themselves or others that are a bit fat as 'curvy' either. Sure no harm. When people start going on about 'real women' makes me want to smack them upside the head though. I dunno, curvy, just people trying to make themselves feel better I guess. 'Real women' is just fvcking catty and snide though.

Agreed. Sorry hun, but that Victoria's Secret model is every bit as real as you are!

tomwaterford wrote: »

If a man said this they'd be slated

Would they?

strelok

Penny Tration wrote: »

Technically? she's visibly obese, in the picture you linked of her sitting at a piano.

that happened to me too and I laughed my ass off, but then the picture changed to the right one and I just sighed

tomwaterford

Tarzana2 wrote: »

Agreed. Sorry hun, but that Victoria's Secret model is every bit as real as you are!



Would they?

In fairness now they would...hense why so many will dance around the point instead of straight out saying it

meeeeh

Dial Hard wrote: »

I think it's because people don't really knoe what curvy means anymore. The word is essentially meaningless now, if Beth Ditto is "curvy" but so is Jennifer Lawrence. It ties into the creeping normalisation of being overweight for me, I think. The fact of the matter is that a lot of people can't actually identify what's overweight and what's not anymore.

The word is meaningless anyway. You are slim hour glass.

Tarzana2

mynameis905 wrote: »

I don't see any piano in the pic I liked to http://www.cockeyed.com/photos/bodies/l/411-170_Cristen_L1.jpg

The first photo you linked is a quite obese woman sitting at a piano.

Tarzana2

tomwaterford wrote: »

In fairness now they would...hense why so many will dance around the point instead of straight out saying it

Why would anyone of any sex say that straight out to someone?

Is there a joke on that pic does it change or something

Datallus

Well....They do say that inside every fat woman there's a skinny woman trying to get out.

And outside every skinny woman there's a fat man trying to get in!

Bad-dum-tish!

tomwaterford

Tarzana2 wrote: »

Why would anyone of any sex say that straight out to someone?

In fairness no one would say that to someone :pac:

Penny Tration

bluewolf wrote: »

Is there a joke on that pic does it change or something

Yeah I'm just seeing an obese lady in a purple dress at a piano


What gives?

meeeeh

mynameis905 wrote: »

I don't see any piano in the pic I liked to http://www.cockeyed.com/photos/bodies/l/411-170_Cristen_L1.jpg

And if she is 150 and 77kg as stated above her link she is waaaaay overweight.

Penny Tration

If the attached is the image of the girl that's being talked about (rather than the lady at the piano), she's also clearly overweight. I may not have pinned her as obese, but definitely overweight. Still very pretty, but this "technically" bollocks is just that - bollocks. If someone is clearly overweight, why say they're "technically" overweight. They are, simple as.

meeeeh

Penny Tration wrote: »

If the attached is the image of the girl that's being talked about (rather than the lady at the piano), she's also clearly overweight. I may not have pinned her as obese, but definitely overweight. Still very pretty, but this "technically" bollocks is just that - bollocks. If someone is clearly overweight, why say they're "technically" overweight. They are, simple as.

I am about 15cm higher than her and 15kg lighter and was still told in high school I am overweight when being measured in pe class.

One eyed Jack

tomwaterford wrote: »

If a man said this they'd be slated :pac:

Meh, I dunno if they would tbh, I think it's more dependent upon the person who they're saying it to, than the gender of the person who's saying it. I've often said things to women that I'd never repeat on here, because I know I don't have to be so careful with my friends, who wouldn't be trying to take what I say out of context.