BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day

davycc

unkel wrote: »

Nice find! I'd much prefer the Saab myself and no doubt it's more comfortable and a nicer place to be in. I owned one myself for two years.

A manual 4 pot is not refined though compared with a straight 6 auto

id take the saab myself! balancer shafts help a lot with smoothness over most normal 4pots :cool:

Long Time Lurker

Furzy wrote: »

.... wrong:

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-95-2007-new-nct-6-2017/10798372

The only car to ever end up considerably worse after a major facelift. Hollow plastic interior door handles instead of one piece solid lumps that went beforr, GM generic stereo system (ironically identical to the one you find in the Epica above) which was vastly inferior to the one Saab originally fitted, creaking cheap plastics everywhere, mix mash of switch gear from various eras and manufacturers (most of GM stuff being utterly awful) and general feeling that the only remit the engineers had in doing the face lift was to make it cheaper, a lot cheaper.

As for that Epica. Incredible value on paper but an utterly hopeless car. Sub Sonata which is essentially what it was, a Korean car from a by gone era sold with a Chevy badge. Horrific plastic interior, comedy suspension which was neither comfortable or sporty, 6 cylinder engine with that sounded like an old Mitsubishi 4 pot but lacked its performance and returned mind bending poor fuel economy. Honestly you'd struggle to actually set out to make a poorer car. Bargain? Yup, but it would want yo be.

Duke O Smiley

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/stunning-mazda-626-nct-02-17/11834254



I like the look of this. Nice & original looking with only 70-odd k miles, and nearly 12 months test. Of course for €550 it would be a nice buy but my gut says €600 drives it away..which all things considered isn't too bad

Duke O Smiley

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-e36/11834617



Summer is around the corner. I think this might be a six pot, a great yoke for cruising about. You wouldn't struggle to insure this on a classic policy too if you have a main policy on something else, and theres a hard top for post-summer too.

Arkady

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/stunning-mazda-626-nct-02-17/11834254



I like the look of this. Nice & original looking with only 70-odd k miles, and nearly 12 months test. Of course for €550 it would be a nice buy but my gut says €600 drives it away..which all things considered isn't too bad

Brilliant cars, properly designed and built. Fantastic spot

shawnee

The Mazda is a beaut but will probably end up in Zimbabwee or somewhere as a taxi. Probably unable to insure it here and will be 14 years waiting for classic status. Banana republic for motorists:(

OldMrBrennan83

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Ded_Zebra

The guts of a years test and what looks like a lot of history, 7 seater too.

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-7-seater-new-nct-01-2017-tax-05-2016/11261711

JJJJNR

No mention of tax, but its not that much on a 1.4.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/seat-leon/11682482

alan partridge aha

JJJJNR wrote: »

No mention of tax, but its not that much on a 1.4.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/seat-leon/11682482

Twit hid the regs but forgot about the Nct cert

Tax due Apr16

nd

seems curiously cheap from a dealer with nct to next january, €395


https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/opel-corsa-discounted-1-0-199-tax-nct-01-2017-/11833264

Duke O Smiley

Well, for a start....they're fooking dire

:P

nd

I sold one recently for over twice the price!

And tbh it was nice enough to drive.

CarFan100

Are these cars being discounted because of insurance issues
Maybe hard to sell

Shannon757

Probably been sitting on it for a while.

unkel

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Well, for a start....they're fooking dire

:P

Half the stuff you post looks worse than that

jca

unkel wrote: »

Half the stuff you post looks worse than that

Now now be nice to the Duke if it wasn't for him there'd be nothing on this thread....

Duke O Smiley

unkel wrote: »

Half the stuff you post looks worse than that

Have you ever driven a three cylinder Corsa though? I have probably the lowest standards on this forum but if there is one car I would not drive its one of those

Don't get me wrong though, I saw nd's one and it looked well and nicely presented, and having sold a few myself its no surprise he sold it. I guess some people just want that quality German engineering

unkel

Only messin' Duke. I wouldn't touch one of those Corsas with a bargepole

JohnBoy26

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Have you ever driven a three cylinder Corsa though? I have probably the lowest standards on this forum but if there is one car I would not drive its one of those

Don't get me wrong though, I saw nd's one and it looked well and nicely presented, and having sold a few myself its no surprise he sold it. I guess some people just want that quality German engineering

Somehow I don't think they'll get that with a corsa

Long Time Lurker

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-2-0t-auto/11834577

Furzy

^^ .... was just about to post that one myself. A great example of the last of the real Saabs .... and the classy Vector pack makes all the difference. Totally agree with everything you said about the newer 2006-2009 model - cheap plastic feel inside and out and firm ride - nothing of the older Saabs to recommend it.

Straight Edge Punk

JJJJNR wrote: »

No mention of tax, but its not that much on a 1.4.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/seat-leon/11682482

The 2 front seats must be in bits.

Duke O Smiley

Okay folks..from my morning scan of the classifieds

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-v70-estate-2-0t-nctd-ocean-race-edition/11747741



Ocean Race edition, "thousands in receipts" and it does look a very reasonable and presentable car. NCT could be longer but it looks well minded

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-subaru-outback-just-nctd-2-17-awd/11672087



Same seller! Same price too, but 11 months test. Higher tax on this but I think I'd have this over the Volvo, they look so purposeful

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lexus-is-300-sports-cross-nct-03-17-automatic/11838514



And slightly pricier, but my gut says €1500 in cash in front of his face would drive it away. And that gets you a three litre, automatic, leather-clad estate with 12 months NCT.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

That Lexus, wouldn't take it if it was free. 3.0 tax, the running costs - Jesus the running costs, the estate version looks horrendous.

Long Time Lurker

Bloody tax :-(

Long Time Lurker

The Hunky Monster wrote: »

That Lexus, wouldn't take it if it was free. 3.0 tax, the running costs - Jesus the running costs, the estate version looks horrendous.

Couldn't disagree more. 3 litre as handy to run as the 2 litre if it wasn't for the tax and I actually think the sport cross looks far better. But there you go.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Long Time Lurker wrote: »

Couldn't disagree more. 3 litre as handy to run as the 2 litre if it wasn't for the tax and I actually think the sport cross looks far better. But there you go.

I'm a big estate fan, imo they generally look better than saloons. But that Lexus has a fat arse. It's all I think of when I see them. Saying the 2.0 is as good as the 3.0 on petrol isn't saying much either! :pac:

Long Time Lurker

The Hunky Monster wrote: »

Saying the 2.0 is as good as the 3.0 on petrol isn't saying much either! :pac:

Hehehehe

Duke O Smiley

Depends on what you are into I suppose; I would love that Lexus, the interior looks lovely and thats where I spend most of the time in a car (not looking at the back :pac:) - the three litre tax is a killer but what can you do. In the name of luxury it has to be paid sometimes. I remember, many years ago, a doctor on call in out locale who had a blue IS with cream leather, it was a stunning car then.