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Long Time Lurker · 09-05-2016 10:49pm

26000 Elephants wrote: »

Classy Lassie hauler. NCT Jan 17. €1,150 but grand could take it.

In any other country in Europe a good condition car like that is eminently sellable and even desirable as an affordable reliable solid family car. In Ireland its old and high tax. What a shame.

flutered · 09-05-2016 10:52pm

Long Time Lurker wrote: »

In any other country in Europe a good condition car like that is eminently sellable and even desirable as an affordable reliable solid family car. In Ireland its old and high tax. What a shame.

that gear lever does not look like a manual job, perhaps i am wrong

visual · 09-05-2016 11:46pm

flutered wrote: »

that gear lever does not look like a manual job, perhaps i am wrong

auto alright

jharr100 · 10-05-2016 12:04am

Long Time Lurker wrote: »

In any other country in Europe a good condition car like that is eminently sellable and even desirable as an affordable reliable solid family car. In Ireland its old and high tax. What a shame.

In Europe theres no shame in driving a good condition 15-20 year old barge. In Spain 20 year old Mercs serve as comfy taxis. In France farmers drive their 405 or 406s for decades. But here, we seem obsessed with the number on the reg plate. The punitive tax system on older cars obviously isn't helping.. But if we were really being green , we'd try and keep older cars on the road as long as possible.

Jimmy Garlic · 10-05-2016 12:16am

jharr100 wrote: »

In Europe theres no shame in driving a good condition 15-20 year old barge. In Spain 20 year old Mercs serve as comfy taxis. In France farmers drive their 405 or 406s for decades. But here, we seem obsessed with the number on the reg plate. The punitive tax system on older cars obviously isn't helping.. But if we were really being green , we'd try and keep older cars on the road as long as possible.

The motor ''industry'' in this country is a strong crony lobby and things are rigged in their favour. There is nothing environmentally friendly about creating a situation where people who drive older (but perfectally serviceable) cars are penalised by way of punitive taxation and contrived insurance hikes. The cronies in the motor ''industry'' have to be kept happy.

ligertigon · 10-05-2016 12:23am

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

The motor ''industry'' in this country is a strong crony lobby and things are rigged in their favour. There is nothing environmentally friendly about creating a situation where people who drive older (but perfectally serviceable) cars are penalised by way of punitive taxation and contrived insurance hikes. The cronies in the motor ''industry'' have to be kept happy.

For what its worth, I am awaiting feedback from sustainable energy Ireland, regarding what they are doing about the motor insurance industry. Regarding a new car being higher in carbon emissions than a 15 year old car....

jcon1913 · 10-05-2016 12:32am

ligertigon wrote: »

For what its worth, I am awaiting feedback from sustainable energy Ireland, regarding what they are doing about the motor insurance industry. Regarding a new car being higher in carbon emissions than a 15 year old car....

Dont hold your breath.

ligertigon · 10-05-2016 11:45am

jcon1913 wrote: »

Dont hold your breath.

To a degree.
But they are a public accountable body, and label themselves as the leading role players in sustainable energy.
Couple with that, the fact that you can't defend the indefensible..

jcon1913 · 10-05-2016 12:51pm

ligertigon wrote: »

To a degree.
But they are a public accountable body, and label themselves as the leading role players in sustainable energy.
Couple with that, the fact that you can't defend the indefensible..

Yes agreed. Sorry to come across as cynical as I agree with you but SEAI us another jobs-for-the-boys brigade. They wont do anything to upset the motor trade or government like a statement to the effect that keeping older cars on the road saves the carbon used in making new ones tto replace them.

cadaliac · 10-05-2016 7:06pm

visual wrote: »

auto alright

Yes auto, some early signs of rust visible from pictures too. But, as LTL correctly pointed out, these are small issues that can be rectified easily (rust, not the auto).
Car is a dinger of a car for that money and should be snapped up unless there is something serious wrong with it. Great find.

Toyotafanboi · 10-05-2016 8:23pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-celica/12026402

Ah lads, €450 asking. A full years NCT on it.

Yeah it's auto but still, it looks well kept. I wonder is it a 3sfe, even if it is, it's still cheap.

Duke O Smiley · 10-05-2016 8:38pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/subaru-legacy-new-nct-quick-sale/11566408

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Test till 3/17 and 3 months tax - seems like seriously good value to me at €1700

circadian · 10-05-2016 9:47pm

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-celica/12026402

Ah lads, €450 asking. A full years NCT on it.

Yeah it's auto but still, it looks well kept. I wonder is it a 3sfe, even if it is, it's still cheap.

Looks like a Japanese import. I get thefeeling insurance is overpriced.

Dravokivich · 11-05-2016 10:03am

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/subaru-legacy-new-nct-quick-sale/11566408

Test till 3/17 and 3 months tax - seems like seriously good value to me at €1700

For a manual, it sure looks like an automatic.

26000 Elephants · 11-05-2016 10:24am

Dravokivich wrote: »

For a manual,

It is not a manual

it sure looks like an automatic.

That's because it is an automatic.

Brian Scan · 11-05-2016 10:32am

26000 Elephants wrote: »

It is not a manual

That's because it is an automatic.

I think that was Drakovich's point.

In the "Key Info" part of the ad the transmission is specified as Manual.

26000 Elephants · 11-05-2016 10:40am

Brian Scan wrote: »

I think that was Drakovich's point.

In the "Key Info" part of the ad the transmission is specified as Manual.

Even the seller says so in the description:

Subaru legacy 2.0 petrol automatic!!!! CASH ONLY no swap

Brian Scan · 11-05-2016 10:44am

26000 Elephants wrote: »

Even the seller says so in the description:

I read the ad. The car is described as both "Manual" and "Automatic"

26000 Elephants · 11-05-2016 10:46am

Brian Scan wrote: »

I read the ad. The car is described as both "Manual" and "Automatic"

So on balance, which do you think it is? Manual or Automatic?

Brian Scan · 11-05-2016 10:51am

26000 Elephants wrote: »

So on balance, which so you think it is? Manual or Automatic?

It is quite obviously an automatic, as Drakovich's post pointed out.
It would appear that he read the "Key Info" part of the ad, saw the picture showing that the car was an auto and then posted.

26000 Elephants · 11-05-2016 10:54am

Brian Scan wrote: »

It is quite obviously an automatic,

Thank you!

Brian Scan · 11-05-2016 10:56am

26000 Elephants wrote: »

Thank you!

You're very welcome.

Soarer · 11-05-2016 2:17pm

How do you put in gear? Manually?

frozenfrozen · 11-05-2016 2:29pm

Soarer wrote: »

How do you put in gear? Manually?

No you select 'D' mode and the automatic gearbox decides which gear to put the transmission into before it balances the clutch and torque converter to deliver the power to the wheels. Nothing manual about it other than select which driving mode you want to be in

Cheensbo · 11-05-2016 2:31pm

Now that we've established that the scoob is an auto, and how to put it in D.

Let's get back to some chape motors.

Here's a saab,

I might call for a quote and go buy this, get in there before me please

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-93-aero-205bhp-nct-05-17/12288755

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TeaBagMania · 11-05-2016 3:29pm

Id just like to add, if there is no clutch pedal its not a manual

Soarer · 11-05-2016 3:30pm

frozenfrozen wrote: »

No you select 'D' mode and the automatic gearbox decides which gear to put the transmission into before it balances the clutch and torque converter to deliver the power to the wheels. Nothing manual about it other than select which driving mode you want to be in

What about reverse? Is that not a gear?

frozenfrozen · 11-05-2016 3:44pm

Soarer wrote: »

What about reverse? Is that not a gear?

No, you're telling the automatic gearbox what mode you want to be put into. Try change into reverse at 60 miles an hour on an autobox and see if it sticks it into gear.

that's the end of my involvement.. more bangers less of whatever that was

flutered · 11-05-2016 4:07pm

Cheensbo wrote: »

Now that we've established that the scoob is an auto, and how to put it in D.

Let's get back to some chape motors.

Here's a saab,

I might call for a quote and go buy this, get in there before me please

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-93-aero-205bhp-nct-05-17/12288755

the 205 bhp is an insurance companys dream, blled you to death on the quote, or say sorry mr flutered

Cheensbo · 11-05-2016 4:37pm

flutered wrote: »

the 205 bhp is an insurance companys dream, blled you to death on the quote, or say sorry mr flutered

Quick online quote of 1500 - f.c.

I'd imagine It'd be a good whack cheaper on a walk in too. Not too bad really..

Intergalacticnomics:

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-mondeo-2-0tdci-new-nct-07-06-2017/12288714

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