BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day

JohnBoy26

unkel wrote: »

Why anyone in their right mind would pay more for that '97 banger Carina (€650) than for that very presentable '01 Accord (€550) is beyond me.

If the cars are anything like they are in the pics then that accord is a much better buy.

Ded_Zebra

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

If the cars are anything like they are in the pics then that accord is a much better buy.

But not if you need an estate. Honestly it's impossible to say and no one car is better for everyones needs.

You could probably get a classic insurance policy on the Toyota which may make it much more tempting for someone.

Personally for me I would like the Accord more but there's no definitive answer and both are great bangernomics imo.

alias no.9

The Sidewards Man wrote: »

What does a full electric pack 99 Yaris contain?

Interior lights and radio

corcaigh07

OK, how about this one?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/peugeot-307-1-4-tdi-nct-2017-895/12429731

Long Time Lurker

Super value

https://youtu.be/3NCjU75U2vs

Straight Edge Punk

Long Time Lurker wrote: »

Super value

https://youtu.be/3NCjU75U2vs

It was a great goal but dunno if you could drive it

Mike Litoris

Lucky it wasn't something else.

Cheensbo

corcaigh07 wrote: »

OK, how about this one?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/peugeot-307-1-4-tdi-nct-2017-895/12429731

Well, there's not a lot to go off as there's no info in the ad, but my take:

Mileage not listed, possibly a work in progress, or intergalactic. Usually if a car has reasonable to low mileage it's a huge selling point, silence may be deafening here.

Advertised as a tdi, it's a Hdi, - the seller who is a trader would know that, minor detail to be fair, possibly trying to appeal to a certain market & search terms.

It's got hub caps off a golf or skoda or something.. Again, means nothing but it's all part of the tapestry.

They're a notoriously shite car, electrical gremlins appear out of nowhere - my friends one shouts at him in italian whenever he turns it on And I'm not biased against french yokes - there's a 207 a C4 & a 407 parked in my drive.

If I was looking at that I'd have the tape & matchsticks holding my eyes wide open, but honestly, there's a few quacking noises coming off the done deal ad so I wouldn't be entertaining it at all personally.

Trojan

I'm doing significantly heavier mileage than I thought I'd be, so I'm considering changing up from the E39 525i.

I think I'm going to have to give up the straight six and go tractor engine (I guess the other option is LPG but it's a massive investment for questionable return).

Any recommendations for a 'nomics diesel that is going to be somewhat comparable to E39 comfortwise?

cadaliac

Jayop wrote: »

Just shy of €906 of tax so they're more or less giving the car away.

You need a maths lesson I'm afraid.
Tax is €710 for 12 months on a 2ltr. Pre 08.
That volvo is taxed into next year, but less than 12 months, (April I think) so less than 710, not more.

Duke O Smiley

@Trojan - you might look at the Volvo S60 2.4 D5, superb engine and very comfortable cars. Certainly won't compare with a petrol E39 in terms of drivability but if it is comfort you are after then I would look no further. A neighbour had a one running as a taxi until recently with over 250k on the clock and it was very reliable.

Duke O Smiley

And from a quick scan of the classifieds

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-accord-executive-4dr-mint-car-1999-today/11988456



Top of the budget here but this is a very nice looking car inside and out. 2.2 diesel NCT Jan '17 €1999.

Trojan

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

@Trojan - you might look at the Volvo S60 2.4 D5, superb engine and very comfortable cars. Certainly won't compare with a petrol E39 in terms of drivability but if it is comfort you are after then I would look no further. A neighbour had a one running as a taxi until recently with over 250k on the clock and it was very reliable.

Thanks, Duke. Yeah I think I've been a bit spoiled with the E39. Comfort is the main factor as I do long trips for the most part.

To put another option on the table, are there any comfortable commercials near bangernomics territory? Most of them look very rough.

CiDeRmAn

Anything to look out for with one of these?

Basically a Citroen C5 but without the funky hydraulics I think

Jayop

cadaliac wrote: »

You need a maths lesson I'm afraid.
Tax is €710 for 12 months on a 2ltr. Pre 08.
That volvo is taxed into next year, but less than 12 months, (April I think) so less than 710, not more.

Ah I looked the tax bracket and made a balls of it.

Duke O Smiley

"Trojan wrote: »

To put another option on the table, are there any comfortable commercials near bangernomics territory? Most of them look very rough.

I will be boo'd for this...but you might get a decent Ssangyong Rexton for around 2k but realistically a bit more, 05 or 06. Great Mercedes running gear in them, and they're genuinely decent to drive. A bit plastic-y inside but in my opinion that is about as bad as it gets with them. You really need to live with one for a bit to understand :P

Other than that a lot of 2k commercials (I presume you mean more a car/jeep derived van moreso than a transit or whatever) will indeed be rough. On motorways and the likes they can be a bit noisy when they're hollow in the back

unkel

Trojan wrote: »

I think I'm going to have to give up the straight six and go tractor engine (I guess the other option is LPG but it's a massive investment for questionable return).

Indeed, the investment in LPG would be about a grand (if you shop around), which is probably nearly as much as your car is worth. Your return starts immediately - your fuel will cost no more than if you were driving a 4 pot diesel. Probably less, particularly if you don't spend all day on the motorway (which a diesel is particularly good at fuel wise)

That said, it will cost you a lot more to change over to a half decent diesel car. Bear that in mind! And where you can reasonably expect your straight 6 petrol BMW to potter on for many years to come without big bills, the same can not be said about any modern comfy diesel car of similar size

And of course you would have to give up the refinement of your current car for a far inferior 4-pot diesel engined car. Needs must and all that, but maybe not quite

When I bought my E60 (also the BMW straight 6 petrol) 3 years ago, I put a thread up here asking should I convert to LPG. It didn't make a lot of sense at the time. Now I'm doing a higher mileage and I already have the car longer than I thought I might, so I regret not having gone LPG at the time

Trojan

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

I will be boo'd for this...but you might get a decent Ssangyong Rexton for around 2k but realistically a bit more, 05 or 06. Great Mercedes running gear in them, and they're genuinely decent to drive. A bit plastic-y inside but in my opinion that is about as bad as it gets with them. You really need to live with one for a bit to understand :P

Other than that a lot of 2k commercials (I presume you mean more a car/jeep derived van moreso than a transit or whatever) will indeed be rough. On motorways and the likes they can be a bit noisy when they're hollow in the back

A thing of beauty, Korea's answer to the Pontiac Aztek!

unkel wrote: »

And of course you would have to give up the refinement of your current car for a far inferior 4-pot diesel engined car. Needs must and all that, but maybe not quite

I got very comfortable, very quick, not so sure I want to go back to rattling along.

unkel wrote: »

When I bought my E60 (also the BMW straight 6 petrol) 3 years ago, I put a thread up here asking should I convert to LPG. It didn't make a lot of sense at the time. Now I'm doing a higher mileage and I already have the car longer than I thought I might, so I regret not having gone LPG at the time

I think I'm in that position alright. I live in Mayo and not so many LPG nearby, particularly at decent price. But most of my mileage is the Dublin run, so it shouldn't be that bad... ok you have me thinking this.

If I keep it I'm gonna have to do something about the fscking cupholder.

unkel

Lads, any other way than carsireland.ie to check if a car is currently taxed (and till when it is taxed)?

selectamatic

Trojan wrote: »

To put another option on the table, are there any comfortable commercials near bangernomics territory? Most of them look very rough.

https://www.donedeal.ie/commercials-for-sale/bmw-530-d-msport-cheap-tax-333-new-doe/11720004

This should fit the bill nicely :P

Long Time Lurker

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Anything to look out for with one of these?

Basically a Citroen C5 but without the funky hydraulics I think

It had to make do with the funky electrics instead :-)

But seriously what's everyone's fear of Citroen suspension? Its actually more durable than regular suspension and so easy to work on its child's play. You'll change a sphere watching a YouTube video.

Sorry on the specific question of what to watch out for! Well there's plenty.

Watch out for a "Check Airbag" light. Its a 400 quid fix straight away. Dodgy keys and locks acting erratically is another obvious one. 1.6 diesels are particularly troublesome if they haven't been maintained plus they suffer awful DPF issues. Interior trim tends to have lots of rattles and some of the out of eye line stuff tends to show its age prematurely.

That said I recently owned a 05 1.8 petrol version and adored it. Heavy enough on fuel but incredibly comfortably for 600 quid.

unkel

Long Time Lurker wrote: »

But seriously what's everyone's fear of Citroen suspension? Its actually more durable than regular suspension and so easy to work on its child's play. You'll change a sphere watching a YouTube video.

+1

Never understood that fear either. Maybe part of the genuine fear of Citroens grown since the 70s when it was about the most unreliable non-Italian make on the planet

I would really like to own a car with hydropneumatic suspension one day...

Long Time Lurker

Long Time Lurker wrote: »

Super value

https://youtu.be/3NCjU75U2vs

Hahahahaha

Just noticed this now. Plonker.

Long Time Lurker

This is what I intended to post

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/04-citroen-c5-2-0-litre-hdi-diesel/12182769

unkel

With a long NCT, I would. If I lived outside of the pale in an area with cr@p roads, I certainly would.

unkel

Long Time Lurker wrote: »

Hahahahaha

Just noticed this now. Plonker.

You could have mistakenly posted a lot worse than that

zapata

Just rang about this half an hour ago (see sad end of post)
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-s40/12263780



He was on his way back from scrapper in Kilcock with a cheque for €65.....:eek:

selectamatic

It's a sad state of affairs alright.
Some sellers do bring it on themselves though. I tried to buy a crdi Santa fé with the back axle fcuked for 300 off a local fella and he was having none of it he scrapped it a week later for I'm assuming sub €150 cos his wife rared up on him about having it left outside their house. Some people just can't stomach the thought of someone they know turning a profit on something they used to own

Duke O Smiley

selectamatic wrote: »

Some people just can't stomach the thought of someone they know turning a profit on something they used to own

The worst kind of people!

Although there is nothing worse than trying to buy a car and you get hit with "shur I would get that for the wheels" or "sure the scrap yard will give me X"

zapata

selectamatic wrote: »

It's a sad state of affairs alright.
Some sellers do bring it on themselves though. Some people just can't stomach the thought of someone they know turning a profit on something they used to own

In a nutshell. Couldn't have put it better myself. Begrudgery.