Dress code in Ireland

mackerski

Look, can we cut to the chase here? If the OP doesn't want to wear a burkha then I guess we're all fine with that personal choice. But we don't need a national dress code just to force the issue.

I thought this was going to be about general levels of dressing up or not

Melisandre121

I think everyone should wear plastic bags over their shoes.

shoes indoors, yes or no

osarusan

bluewolf wrote: »

shoes indoors, yes or no

No, in my own house.

In other people's houses, usually yes, but of course I'm willing to take them off.

steddyeddy

I don't wear them indoors because I think it's healthy to walk around barefoot once in a while.

QuinDixie

Tracksuits only to be worn by children, unless there is a valid sporty reason.
Trainers ditto.
Pyjamas never should be worn outside.

All offenders punished by cuts to their welfare payments.

MadsL

Billy86 wrote:

This is unacceptable barbarism that needs to be eliminated.

This is our heritage, and some of us are damn proud of it.

Nuns!! Reverse!! Reverse!!

Fox_In_Socks

bluewolf wrote: »

shoes indoors, yes or no

Of course yes. Fresh rushes on the ground and some sheepskin throws on straw for comfort. Drains on the ground to let the let the water flow away from the chimney hole and a fine blazer of a fire going. A horn of mead to quench your thirst and a fine lass upon your knee

Anesthetize

delthedriver wrote: »

Should there be an acceptable code of dress ? Is it acceptable for foreigners to wear burkhas and hijabs.

Yes it is acceptable for foreigners (and Irish!) to wear burkhas and hijabs. No-one should have to put up with being discriminated according to their religion or beliefs in this country.

delthedriver wrote: »

When Irish people are in the Middle East , there are minimum dress codes.

Different countries, different cultures, different attitudes to dress.

delthedriver wrote: »

What is acceptable in Ireland. What are your views?

Anything that doesn't count as indecent exposure or doesn't physically harm other people should be acceptable in Ireland.

riffmongous

bluewolf wrote: »

shoes indoors, yes or no

Definitely no in my house, no need for them and they only dirty up the place if it's been raining.

If I'm hanging around my district during the evening my dress code would be something like this :pac:

gop fm

only serbian instead of russian

mynameis905

Brian from Bray wrote: »

What was up with young men back years ago wearing suits everyday of the week ?

A well fitting suit is the single most flattering garment a man can wear. From a practicality standpoint, wool wears better, lasts longer and holds it's colour and shape longer than other materials. It also does not absorb odours so needs less washing than say, cotton.

mynameis905

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I've been spending an increasing amount of time in Dublin over the last few months. I've been tasked with trying to improve the efficiency of our back and middle office operations over there. In many aspects it has been a relatively easy task. Young Irish graduates are keen to learn. I've spotted a few real 'go-getters' emerging as wheat from the chaff.

However, one of the things I have noticed is the complete and utter lack of any sort of sartorial refinement. Back office staff tend to arrive in wearing ill-fitting casual shirts worn outside the trousers. Trousers in this case being Jack Jones or Topman jeans. Every middle management seem to think they can get away with wearing a suit that was last in fashion back in 2011; the last time they bought a 'wedding and funeral' suit.

The Irish dress terribly.

I don't get this point. Suits are not really a 'fashion' item but they do follow trends - slim fitting in the '60s, flared trousers and wide lapels in the '70s, massive shoulder pads in the '80s, baggy in the '90s and a very slim fit from the 2000s onwards. Assuming the suit in question fit well and the wearer hasn't gained or lost weight (and even if they had a well made suit can be let out) it should be just as wearable in 2015 as it was in 2011.

TimeToShine

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I've been spending an increasing amount of time in Dublin over the last few months. I've been tasked with trying to improve the efficiency of our back and middle office operations over there. In many aspects it has been a relatively easy task. Young Irish graduates are keen to learn. I've spotted a few real 'go-getters' emerging as wheat from the chaff.

However, one of the things I have noticed is the complete and utter lack of any sort of sartorial refinement. Back office staff tend to arrive in wearing ill-fitting casual shirts worn outside the trousers. Trousers in this case being Jack Jones or Topman jeans. Every middle management seem to think they can get away with wearing a suit that was last in fashion back in 2011; the last time they bought a 'wedding and funeral' suit.

The Irish dress terribly.

Clothes of a "sartorially refined" nature cost a lot of money. Graduates and middle-management employees do not have money. Ergo they spend 20 euro on a shirt & tie from Penneys and make do.

If I went to Vietnam or had a few thousand to spare I too would happily tip in to my local suit shop and get a two suits and four tailored shirts.

starling

Shenshen wrote: »

From what I hear from France, the women there choosing the more extreme forms of clothing such as niqabs and burqas are actually almost exclusively recent converts of French heritage. I think if they were happy enough to make a decision about following a new religion, surely their attire is their own informed choice as well?

I agree that around the world, though, the clothing is chosen more out of tradition and/or religious indoctrination. However, I sincerely dislike pre-assuming that all women globally would drop their burqas and veils and chose more Western-style clothing if only we could educate them; to me, this sounds a little too much like chauvinism - the thought that our way of dressing is obviously superior, and the thought that women who decide not to dress this way do so because they obviously don't know what's good for them so someone needs to tell them.

If we want to address the situation of women in the Arab and Islamic world, is the way they dress really the most urgent problem?
Or do we just get wound up about that because it's most visible and noticeable?

I remember reading about professional Muslim women who felt that the burqa, in removing the "distraction" of their appearance, forced their male colleagues to actually listen to what they were saying instead of judging them based on their appearance. Of course, ideally I'd like it if men just did that anyway, without women having to be covered up or trying to eliminate vocal fry or whatever, but I can still see their point, and in any case these women were clearly intelligent, educated adults who were perfectly capable of deciding for themselves whether they wanted to wear a burqa - no way I would try to make that decision for them.

In my younger days I often wished I could wear a burqa so I could just go about my business without all the hassle I used to get. That's not bragging, I was genuinely coming home traumatised.

starling

mynameis905 wrote: »

A well fitting suit is the single most flattering garment a man can wear. From a practicality standpoint, wool wears better, lasts longer and holds it's colour and shape longer than other materials. It also does not absorb odours so needs less washing than say, cotton.

Also saves €€€ in the long run. Invest in a couple of good suits and you're basically set, all you need is shirts and underwear basically. Well, shoes, I suppose. But everyone needs shoes, so.