New oven

Galway_guy_33

Hi all

So I'm replacing a 10 year old whirlpool oven with a top end 3.45kw Bosch oven.

My whirlpool was wired from the cooker switch with 6sq t@e directly into the applicable.. Just after un packing Bosch and I find a flex with a connector which connects to the appliance other end of the cable has no plug just wires exposed. Manual says connect with a 16a plug or protect with a 16a fuses.

How should I go about this? Can I connect somehow to the existing 6sq wire?

Youngblood.III

Yes...but disconnect that wire that came with it and connect to the terminals on the oven...but sure you know what your at, power off, correct connections.

Or if not sure, get someone who does.

Galway_guy_33

Cheers for the quick reply... Not sure what you mean by disconnect the cable that came with it? It has a special connector on it surely I need to use it no?

Cable looks like this only minus the 3pin plug on the right

http://imageck.com/613765031-bosch-neff-siemens-13amp-power-mains-cable-646105.html

Youngblood.III

Ok...haven't seen them like that, but it's been a while.
I'd say that cable is supposed to loop up to the hob...hob may have double connections, check it.

Galway_guy_33

Youngblood.III wrote: »

Ok...haven't seen them like that, but it's been a while.
I'd say that cable is supposed to loop up to the hob...hob may have double connections, check it.

manual doesnt mention anything about connecting to the hob... assume I cant connect up to the 6mm cable on the 32amp breaker.... reading online in uk forums seems to be a common issue I.e. new ovens with 16a connection.

hopefully I wont need to run new cables as that will be a mess... ill talk to an electrician friend tomorrow see what he thinks.

I wired up my hob and oven 10 years ago with no issues like this... what a pain

aido79

Galway_guy_33 wrote: »

manual doesnt mention anything about connecting to the hob... assume I cant connect up to the 6mm cable on the 32amp breaker.... reading online in uk forums seems to be a common issue I.e. new ovens with 16a connection.

hopefully I wont need to run new cables as that will be a mess... ill talk to an electrician friend tomorrow see what he thinks.

I wired up my hob and oven 10 years ago with no issues like this... what a pain

This oven like most modern ovens is designed to be plugged in rather than put on a cooker switch. The cooker switch should only be used for the hob. It would probably be better if you looked at installing a new socket for the oven as this is common practice now.

Galway_guy_33

So called two electricians and popped into my local electrical supply store and all three tell me its ok to connect the flex that came with the oven to the 6sq cable i have already... just use the right strip connector and junction box.

No new wiring required

aido79

Galway_guy_33 wrote: »

So called two electricians and popped into my local electrical supply store and all three tell me its ok to connect the flex that came with the oven to the 6sq cable i have already... just use the right strip connector and junction box.

No new wiring required

Electrically there is nothing wrong with doing that. If it was in my kitchen I would get tired of resetting the digital clock, if there is one(there usually is) every time someone turns the cooker switch off.

Galway_guy_33

luckily the oven i bought has a battery backup and it sync's with my ipad also so setting the clock wont be an issue... just glad i dont have to get the kango out again... wasnt looking forward to breaking that news to the wife..... destroyed the kitchen with dust more times than i care to remember

Galway_guy_33

So wired up the oven into the 6mm twin and earth using a junction box.... fired up the oven lcd dispay works fine etc... set it to 240 degrees and it ran for 20 seconds and shutdown popping up an error code. Tried a few times no joy same error code each time.

Called customer support and they said theres an internal fault.... they will send out a replacement oven.

However in the back of my mind im wondering if this is due to wiring i.e. connecting to 6mm on a 32amp breaker with a hob on the same circuit? The manual did say it should be connected to a 16amp plug or fuse... or is it just my luck to get a faulty oven?

Should i go ahead and connect the new oven the same way or run a new circuit on a 16amp breaker with a 16amp fused spur?

pdiddy

Just bad luck mate getting a faulty oven,connecting it to the 6mm cable wouldnt cause any problems like that and you should be fine connecting new oven the same way.

Galway_guy_33

Cheers pdiddy.... just my luck could only happen to me... i think i must be cursed at this stage... heres some of the things that have gone wrong in the past:

* Previous oven had to be replaced 3 times within the first month....

* Brand new car breaks down on first trip home from the garage... (Float in the fuel tank broke was reading half full when there was no fuel)

* every window in my house had to be replaced after 1 yr living it the house (All installed incorrectly)

i could go on and on..... anyways so ill go with the same install again.... hopefully i wont be back with another issue.... ill be eating out of the microwave for a while longer.

mickward

I would be inclined to put a 16A socket head on the 6sq, stick a 13A plug on your cable and plug it in, this will work fine.

One like this:
http://www.internationalconfig.com/icc6.asp?item=72160-BLK

aido79

Galway_guy_33 wrote: »

So wired up the oven into the 6mm twin and earth using a junction box.... fired up the oven lcd dispay works fine etc... set it to 240 degrees and it ran for 20 seconds and shutdown popping up an error code. Tried a few times no joy same error code each time.

Called customer support and they said theres an internal fault.... they will send out a replacement oven.

However in the back of my mind im wondering if this is due to wiring i.e. connecting to 6mm on a 32amp breaker with a hob on the same circuit? The manual did say it should be connected to a 16amp plug or fuse... or is it just my luck to get a faulty oven?

Should i go ahead and connect the new oven the same way or run a new circuit on a 16amp breaker with a 16amp fused spur?

What is the error code? Is it listed here:
http://www.appliancepartspros.com/repair-help/bosch-fault-codes.html

Galway_guy_33

Hey Aido,

Had checked online for the error codes i was getting but couldnt find any details for the codes i was getting.... saw that website alright...

Started getting E5135 then after a few attempts started getting E5116

Might not be much info as its a new series 8 oven not out that long this is the oven:

http://www.bosch-home.ie/products/cooking-baking/ovens/built-in-ovens/HRG6769S1B.html

Some youtube videos of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdDjZfeNSkY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8JrfXSQEr0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlJ4F1lVzK0

aido79

Galway_guy_33 wrote: »

Hey Aido,

Had checked online for the error codes i was getting but couldnt find any details for the codes i was getting.... saw that website alright...

Started getting E5135 then after a few attempts started getting E5116

Might not be much info as its a new series 8 oven not out that long this is the oven:

http://www.bosch-home.ie/products/cooking-baking/ovens/built-in-ovens/HRG6769S1B.html

Some youtube videos of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdDjZfeNSkY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8JrfXSQEr0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlJ4F1lVzK0

To be honest if they've offered to replace the oven you might be better off taking them up on the offer and letting them worry about what's wrong with it.

Mississippi.

Galway_guy_33 wrote: »

So wired up the oven into the 6mm twin and earth using a junction box.... fired up the oven lcd dispay works fine etc... set it to 240 degrees and it ran for 20 seconds and shutdown popping up an error code. Tried a few times no joy same error code each time.

Called customer support and they said theres an internal fault.... they will send out a replacement oven.

However in the back of my mind im wondering if this is due to wiring i.e. connecting to 6mm on a 32amp breaker with a hob on the same circuit? The manual did say it should be connected to a 16amp plug or fuse... or is it just my luck to get a faulty oven?

Should i go ahead and connect the new oven the same way or run a new circuit on a 16amp breaker with a 16amp fused spur?

I know a house that replaced their oven a few years ago with a bosch also and one of the temp indicators on the fascia panelwwould go from half lit to full lit as opposed to on and off, the service technician called out and diagnosed a temp cut out which didn't solve the problem.
What was wrong was the live and neutral were mixed up. They had put the brown to the live terminal in the oven but the brown and blue were mixed up in the switch.
When they were rotated round the problem disappeared.
Might be worth checking out on your oven?