RWC '15: Pool A General Chat [AUS/ENG/WAL/FIJ/URU]

captbarnacles

Ah here, the first crooked scrum feed of the WC is against Uruguay

token56

I can just picture the face on Gatland if Wales lost. Please Uruguay do it!

sullivlo

They're certainly up for the game anyway.

The TV feed is very quiet alright. I suspect it's as loud there today as it was yesterday and that's not coming through the TV at all.

token56

Would Uruguay be better off not engaging the maul at the lineouts?

aimee1

12 man maul..... Dont think cheika and lancaster will need to do too much analysis for their games with wales

Stheno

sullivlo wrote: »

They're certainly up for the game anyway.

The TV feed is very quiet alright. I suspect it's as loud there today as it was yesterday and that's not coming through the TV at all.

They seem to have a problem getting the mix of the noise in the stadium and the noise of the commentators right. E.g. yesterday you couldn't hear the commentary during the Japan game as the crowd noise was so loud. Seems the opposite now today

captbarnacles

Australia will thrash Wales and England imo.

Sever Tomorrow

Quinlan is right, another unnecessary use of the TMO. Even the ref said "I agree with you" (to the TMO). Just award it yourself without heading upstairs.

aimee1

Liam williams in trouble

Stheno

Liam Williams hobbling around like an oul fella.

.ak

Thought Wales were sealing there also.

Stheno

There'll be cards soon if the offside and high tackles don't stop

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Uruguay clearly don't fancy themselves as an attacking force. Couple of times they could have maybe gone for the line and had a go for the try. Although no shame in taking the points.

Neil3030

Can they give the ref a keypad with a few options on it like:

"Try yes or no"
"Any reason I cannot award the try"

etc - so they can have the message to the TMO immediately and not this crap waiting for the crowd to die down, "Bob can you hear me..." wasting 20 seconds per referral.

aimee1

Stheno wrote: »

There'll be cards soon if the offside and high tackles don't stop

Wales on a warning for the high tackles

Stheno

For the love of the divine.

TMO stops play in the middle of play!

Don't think I've seen that before.

laugh

Nothing in that ...

aimee1

laugh wrote: »

Nothing in that ...

Wonder would if have been called against a wales player

cython

Stheno wrote: »

For the love of the divine.

TMO stops play in the middle of play!

Don't think I've seen that before.

It wasn't in the middle of play, but it was a similar case of the TMO initiating his own intervention that denied Healy's try yesterday evening.

jk86

laugh wrote: »

Nothing in that ...

The TMO hadn't been called in a few minutes and wanted to remind everyone he was still there

aimee1

Uruguay no 8 does well at the scrums.

Kiwi_knock

TMO should only interject if it is at least a yellow card offence.

Wales should be able to get the bonus point before half time.

.ak

Stheno wrote: »

For the love of the divine.

TMO stops play in the middle of play!

Don't think I've seen that before.

It's been around for over a year now.

But it really should just be kept for serious offences. Like tip tackles or gouging.

It was a fairly ok clear out, it's impossible to bind properly onto players that low down. If we enforce that strictly it'll make quick ball a thing of the past.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

.ak wrote: »

It's been around for over a year now.

But it really should just be kept for serious offences. Like tip tackles or gouging.

It was a fairly ok clear out, it's impossible to bind properly onto players that low down. If we enforce that strictly it'll make quick ball a thing of the past.

Isn't that what citing is for though?

That said I saw this morning that a Fijian player has been cited for a tip tackle against England. It's presumably the one they reviewed about 10 times on the night and decided it was fine and yet he's been cited for it.

The Lost Sheep

.ak wrote: »

It's been around for over a year now.

But it really should just be kept for serious offences. Like tip tackles or gouging.

It was a fairly ok clear out, it's impossible to bind properly onto players that low down. If we enforce that strictly it'll make quick ball a thing of the past.

When you say serious offences???
Probably should be for red card offences only but if there is foul play should they not come in then?

Stheno

Liam Williams is off.

aimee1

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

When you say serious offences???
Probably should be for red card offences only but if there is foul play should they not come in then?

Liam williams off. Might just be dead leg. Paul james off with ankle injury.

Wales very lacklustre so far

.ak

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Isn't that what citing is for though?

That said I saw this morning that a Fijian player has been cited for a tip tackle against England. It's presumably the one they reviewed about 10 times on the night and decided it was fine and yet he's been cited for it.

What good is a citing to a team who's been cheated?

No I'm fully behind using the tmo in open play for serious acts of foul play. A citing is no good to anyone during play.

.ak

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

When you say serious offences???
Probably should be for red card offences only but if there is foul play should they not come in then?

For me it should be anything worthy of a yellow that the ref has missed. I.e; tip tackles, punches thrown, cynical play to stop a try being scored etc.

A slightly shouldery clear out is not what it should be used for.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

.ak wrote: »

What good is a citing to a team who's been cheated?

No I'm fully behind using the tmo in open play for serious acts of foul play. A citing is no good to anyone during play.

Yeah, fair point. Particularly if it's a card offence.

Still, if there's going to be so much intervention from the TMO they really shouldn't have a citing happening especially from an incident they reviewed multiple times during the match.

token56

Wales are far from their best here. Can't see them doing much against England or Australia if they play like this.

pickarooney

TMO is like that snitch of a neighbour ringing the cops every time you light a spliff.

Kiwi_knock

Wales made hard work of that bonus point. Good in patches, but making basic mistakes across the pitch. I don't think England or Australia will be too worried yet.

.ak

Reminding me a bit of our game... Although I think Uruguay playing a bit better with ball in hand, bit really poor in defence once it goes past 2 or 3 phases. Canada look a better standard and better drilled team. But BP secured before half time, job done. Bets they'll end up with 7 tries?

Stheno

.ak wrote: »

Reminding me a bit of our game... Although I think Uruguay playing a bit better with ball in hand, bit really poor in defence once it goes past 2 or 3 phases. Canada look a better standard and better drilled team. But BP secured before half time, job done. Bets they'll end up with 7 tries?

I reckon they'll murder them in the last twenty

aimee1

Stheno wrote: »

I reckon they'll murder them in the last twenty

They would settle for 0-0 in second half if they got no more injuries

Williams going off is a disaster

*Hank Scorpio*

So Cardiff is in England now?

Why are there games in Cardiff and why are Wales allowed home advantage if the WC is in England?

It was the same in '07 when the WC was in France. Matches in Cardiff.

What's the reason for this?

Stheno

*Hank Scorpio* wrote: »

So Cardiff is in England now?

Why are there games in Cardiff and why are Wales allowed home advantage if the WC is in England?

It was the same in '07 when the WC was in France. Matches in Cardiff.

What's the reason for this?

Not enough stadiums in England.

*Hank Scorpio*

Stheno wrote: »

Not enough stadiums in England.

Wembley?

Stheno

*Hank Scorpio* wrote: »

Wembley?

This has been covered already, don't think the soccer folk will allow their stadiums be used

sullivlo

Stheno wrote: »

This has been covered already, don't think the soccer folk will allow their stadiums be used

We're playing in Wembley next week... It's just how it panned out.

irishbucsfan

It's not because there aren't enough stadiums in England. You can't move 5 feet without bumping into a giant stadium in England.

It's there for the same reason they played in Cardiff during the French world cup, its down to IRB (now WR) politics. Wales originally announced their intention to bid to host the 2015 World Cup themselves but pulled out when England included them in their own bid.

Greyian

*Hank Scorpio* wrote: »

So Cardiff is in England now?

Why are there games in Cardiff and why are Wales allowed home advantage if the WC is in England?

It was the same in '07 when the WC was in France. Matches in Cardiff.

What's the reason for this?

Buying votes.

Wales agree to support England's WC bid, in exchange for hosting some matches.

aimee1

Stheno wrote: »

This has been covered already, don't think the soccer folk will allow their stadiums be used

It was voting. France got 07 because scotland and wales voted for them if they got home games.

Likewise wales promised votes for england if they got games in cardiff. England had plenty of stadiums, it was purely voting rights

pickarooney

Are there not games in Villa Park?
Also Elland Road and Leicester.

That's a try for Tipuric. The ball went back and he touched it down with his torso.

aimee1

Cory allen ankle injury

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Wales aren't allowed play Australia in Cardiff which is really the only time it might have given them an unfair advantage. Presumably Welsh fans won't be put off going to that match in large numbers anyway just because it's a few miles down the road. Look at our match yesterday, might as well have been a home game.

Bridge93

pickarooney wrote: »

Are there not games in Villa Park?
Also Elland Road and Leicester.

That's a try for Tipuric. The ball went back and he touched it down with his torso.

Yeah and Wembley, St James' Park and Brighton

pickarooney

Commentators playing Rock Ballad Bingo there.
Push it to the limit
Living on the edge...

Stheno

irishbucsfan wrote: »

It's not because there aren't enough stadiums in England. You can't move 5 feet without bumping into a giant stadium in England.

It's there for the same reason they played in Cardiff during the French world cup, its down to IRB (now WR) politics. Wales originally announced their intention to bid to host the 2015 World Cup themselves but pulled out when England included them in their own bid.

Didn't know that thanks.

aimee1 wrote: »

Cory allen ankle injury

I know I don't like Gatland, but god I hope Wales get through this game with no more injuries. They are being decimated.