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Abortion Discussion, Part Trois

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  • #2102
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    100cent wrote: »
    I am opposed to IVF completely.

    Still on the fence re morning after pill.

    Keep the questions coming. I hope the answers aren't too inconvenient for you. :)

    Do you agree with the criminalization of women who have abortions here?


  • #2103
    100cent
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭100cent


    robdonn wrote: »
    I try not to talk to myself, it tends to come across a bit psychopathic... :P

    Go for it then.

    Give me the short version of why you advocate for abortion.


  • #2104
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    100cent wrote: »
    Go for it then.

    Give me the short version of why you advocate for abortion.

    Well, speaking only for myself if I'm pregnant and I don't want to be I want to access abortion as early as possible and as late as necessary. And I don't want to have to travel to do that.


  • #2105
    100cent
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭100cent


    lazygal wrote: »
    Not at all. Should women who take the abortion pill here be imprisoned?

    Imprisoning women will solve nothing in my personal view.


  • #2106
    100cent
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭100cent


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Do you agree with the criminalization of women who have abortions here?

    As I just said, I fail to see a benefit from such action.


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  • #2107
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    100cent wrote: »
    Imprisoning women will solve nothing in my personal view.

    Even if they're killing unborn babies? That isn't murder then, with criminal implications?


  • #2108
    100cent
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭100cent


    lazygal wrote: »
    Well, speaking only for myself if I'm pregnant and I don't want to be I want to access abortion as early as possible and as late as necessary. And I don't want to have to travel to do that.

    A form of birth control?


  • #2109
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    100cent wrote: »
    As I just said, I fail to see a benefit from such action.

    What age group are you? Are you male or female?


  • #2110
    100cent
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭100cent


    lazygal wrote: »
    Even if they're killing unborn babies? That isn't murder then, with criminal implications?

    I've never used the word murder.

    Even in murder cases, imprisoning is not always the answer, depending on the circumstances.


  • #2111
    Lurkio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lurkio


    lazygal wrote: »
    Throw in some laundry and you're definitely onto something.

    Ahh no, times have moved on since then. Theres now way in this day and age you'd let some dirty floozy who had sex outside the bonds of matrimony - possibly more than once, on separate occasions, with more than one man -access to innocent peoples undergarments.


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  • #2112
    100cent
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭100cent


    eviltwin wrote: »
    What age group are you? Are you male or female?

    I respectfully decline to answer that question.


  • #2113
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    100cent wrote: »
    A form of birth control?

    No, a form of maternity care. Perhaps in circumstances where my birth control didn't prove effective. Or when my health is at risk.
    How far should the state go to stop me having an abortion?


  • #2114
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    100cent wrote: »
    I've never used the word murder.

    Even in murder cases, imprisoning is not always the answer, depending on the circumstances.

    So what is abortion then?


  • #2115
    robdonn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭robdonn


    100cent wrote: »
    Go for it then.

    Give me the short version of why you advocate for abortion.

    "Quality of life over quantity of life" would be my short version.


  • #2116
    100cent
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭100cent


    lazygal wrote: »
    No, a form of maternity care. Perhaps in circumstances where my birth control didn't prove effective. Or when my health is at risk.
    How far should the state go to stop me having an abortion?

    So a continuation of birth control? If the first version doesn't work, use the abortion method?

    Would you wish to have the option of abortion available to you throughout your pregnancy, up to 36 weeks?

    I'm more than happy with the current legal situation that is in place.


  • #2117
    100cent
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭100cent


    robdonn wrote: »
    "Quality of life over quantity of life" would be my short version.

    Unless its the life of an unborn baby? Then its expendable?


  • #2118
    Lurkio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lurkio


    100cent wrote: »
    I've never used the word murder.

    Even in murder cases, imprisoning is not always the answer, depending on the circumstances.


    Let's imagine a scenario where a woman (we'll say in a relationship, though its fairly irrelevant) uses contraception because she can't have a child at that particular time. There is the risk that she could become pregnant, so in that instance she would have an abortion. What are your alternative solutions for her?


  • #2119
    100cent
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭100cent


    Lurkio wrote: »
    Let's imagine a scenario where a woman (we'll say in a relationship, though its fairly irrelevant) uses contraception because she can't have a child at that particular time. There is the risk that she could become pregnant, so in that instance she would have an abortion. What are your alternative solutions for her?

    Why 'can't she have a child'?


  • #2120
    robdonn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭robdonn


    100cent wrote: »
    Unless its the life of an unborn baby? Then its expendable?

    On the contrary, it very much applies to the unborn. Babies shouldn't be born just 'cause.


  • #2121
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    100cent wrote: »
    Why 'can't she have a child'?

    What does it matter why? What's your alternative for women who've decided to have abortions?


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  • #2122
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    100cent wrote: »
    So a continuation of birth control? If the first version doesn't work, use the abortion method?

    Would you wish to have the option of abortion available to you throughout your pregnancy, up to 36 weeks?

    I'm more than happy with the current legal situation that is in place.

    How is abortion birth control? And,yes I could face risks to life and health at any stage of pregnancy so of course abortion should be available throughout a pregnancy. It's a medical not a legal matter.


  • #2123
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    100cent wrote: »
    Unless its the life of an unborn baby? Then its expendable?

    Its expendable when someone else's life is at risk.


  • #2124
    100cent
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭100cent


    robdonn wrote: »
    On the contrary, it very much applies to the unborn. Babies shouldn't be born just 'cause.

    Huh?


  • #2125
    100cent
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭100cent


    lazygal wrote: »
    What does it matter why? What's your alternative for women who've decided to have abortions?

    Why don't we let Lurkio answer the question. :)


  • #2126
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    100cent wrote: »
    Why don't we let Lurkio answer the question. :)

    Could you tell me what should my alternative to abortion be in situations where I no longer wish to remain pregnant?


  • #2127
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,962 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    lazygal wrote: »
    What does it matter why? What's your alternative for women who've decided to have abortions?

    25 to life in the Magdalenekazetten.


  • #2128
    robdonn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭robdonn


    100cent wrote: »
    Huh?

    We should take into account the quality of life that a child would have before bringing it into the world.


  • #2129
    100cent
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭100cent


    lazygal wrote: »
    How is abortion birth control? And,yes I could face risks to life and health at any stage of pregnancy so of course abortion should be available throughout a pregnancy. It's a medical not a legal matter.

    Ok, so does the availability up to 36 weeks depend on the reason for to wish to access the abortion?


  • #2130
    100cent
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭100cent


    lazygal wrote: »
    Could you tell me what should my alternative to abortion be in situations where I no longer wish to remain pregnant?

    At the moment you stay in Ireland and deliver your baby or travel abroad to access an abortion.


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  • #2131
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    100cent wrote: »
    Ok, so does the availability up to 36 weeks depend on the reason for to wish to access the abortion?

    No. Abortion services should be a matter for medics and pregnant women. I've no interest in why someone wants an abortion.


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