England vs Fiji, RWC 2015.

Huntergonzo

Officials being incredibly generous ro England, bit sickening to watch actually, England are going to win this game regardless so is there any real need for the officials to ride Fiji senseless!

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nehe milner skudder wrote: »

hatchet job by the officials so far.

Nonsense. How can people believe there's a concerted effort against Fiji? Just because they're playing England?

Buer

captbarnacles wrote:

If Fiji can get within one score England will be very very worried as they know Fiji can score from anywhere.

If Fiji get within a score they're not going to see the ball again.

mrsoundie

Pudsy33

When I die I want to reincarnated as a 20 stone Fijian goal kicking winger.

efb

How far can it go before a try can't be rescinded?

Pudsy33

ThisRegard wrote: »

Nonsense.

Panel saying first try was a penalty for Fiji. It's not a conspiracy, it's just ****.

efb

I agree with Clive Woodward!!!! Aargh

Crimsonforce

Clive woodward is a right pain in hole. When I won the 2003 world cup.... bla bla bla. Guy has done nothing , zero, since.

captbarnacles

Said truck and trailer at the time and sure looked it. No tmo intervention tho /

Pudsy33

efb wrote: »

How far can it go before a try can't be rescinded?

TMO can be consulted prior to the conversion. Not sure about the laws regarding the awarding and subsequent un-rewarding of a try.

adox

efb wrote: »

How far can it go before a try can't be rescinded?

I think once the kicker starts his run up for the conversion the ref can't reverse his call.

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Pudsy33 wrote: »

Panel saying first try was a penalty for Fiji. It's not a conspiracy, it's just ****.

Depends on who you listen to. Hook is often on a panel, do you think everything he says his right?

Bad calls are made in every game, but get a grip on yourselves with the conspiracy crap.

Bridge93

It's grand, the TMO can go back now and allow the ref to overturn the first try.

Mint Sauce

It may have not been a try on the evidence of the TMO, but its a disgrace that the ref could be swayed by the big screen. I thought for precisly this reason replays were not allowed on the big screen.

Buer

Crimsonforce wrote:

Clive woodward is a right pain in hole. When I won the 2003 world cup.... bla bla bla. Guy has done nothing , zero, since.

7 people have done it in history. He never needs to.

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Poxy non stop ads are ridiculous though on both stations.

Pudsy33

Buer wrote: »

Haven't been able to see a minute of the game. But that's ok.

I know from this thread that England are totally overrated and fortunate to be in the tournament and Fiji appear to be real contenders for the title. Fair play to them.

To be fair, England do look nervous. That's perfectly understandable though and they are playing well enough. They will be concerned by the scrums though, Marler is struggling.

Fiji are bringing exactly what you'd expect to the party. Big running, big hitting, and general headless chicken like play.

efb

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Poxy non stop ads are ridiculous though on both stations.

In fairness they can't show any for nearly an hour each half and they are entirely funded by advertising

Al_Coholic

here in Mexico they are advertising Tonga vs Georgia a 5.45am.....i dont think ill get up for that one.

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Mint Sauce wrote: »

It may have not been a try on the evidence of the TMO, but its a disgrace that the ref could be swayed by the big screen. I thought for precisly this reason replays were not allowed on the big screen.

They always use it. Owens will often use it when making decisions.

thomond2006

ThisRegard wrote: »

Poxy non stop ads are ridiculous though on both stations.

Never watch American sports!

rrpc

Mint Sauce wrote: »

It may have not been a try on the evidence of the TMO, but its a disgrace that the ref could be swayed by the big screen. I thought for precisly this reason replays were not allowed on the big screen.

No. We've had replays on the big screen for ever.

Refs often make up their minds before the TMO.

It's not a problem. Please calm down.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

England need to get Slamin' Sam on!

efb

Mint Sauce wrote: »

It may have not been a try on the evidence of the TMO, but its a disgrace that the ref could be swayed by the big screen. I thought for precisly this reason replays were not allowed on the big screen.

Owens watches the big screen when he consults the TMO- and usually makes up his own mind! Lol

Pudsy33

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Depends on who you listen to. Hook is often on a panel, do you think everything he says his right?

Bad calls are made in every game, but get a grip on yourselves with the conspiracy crap.

Well no because hook is a cabbage. I agree bad calls are made every game, but there has been avoidable ones here. My main gripe is with the overuse of the TMO. I'm not saying anything about conspiracy, you started that one

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thomond2006 wrote: »

Never watch American sports!

Tell me about it. I found it better to actually go watch them as it turned it a sports event based around drinking. Ice hockey was good craic though, they make a spectacle out of it.

bilston

Al_Coholic wrote: »

here in Mexico they are advertising Tonga vs Georgia a 5.45am.....i dont think ill get up for that one.

I actually think that game will be worth a watch myself. Unlike most games this weekend it is a hard one to call.

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Pudsy33 wrote: »

Well no because hook is a cabbage. I agree bad calls are made every game, but there has been avoidable ones here. My main gripe is with the overuse of the TMO. I'm not saying anything about conspiracy, you started that one

Absolutely agree with you on the TMO. And reading back it was a bunch of others implying a conspiracy, you just happened to be the person quoted so I'll hold my hands up to that.

bilston

My issue withe Matawalu non try is that it was the TV producer that had the ultimate power. If he/she hadn't shown the replay the try would have stood. The officials had nothing to do with that. Yes the right call was made but what if the TV producer doesn't show a replay at the other end for whatever reason?

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bilston wrote: »

My issue withe Matawalu non try is that it was the TV producer that had the ultimate power. If he/she hadn't shown the replay the try would have stood. The officials had nothing to do with that. Yes the right call was made but what if the TV producer doesn't show a replay at the other end for whatever reason?

The TMOs are constantly reviewing the video from a whole pile of angles they have, I think he was also asked to go upstairs by England.

This might be worth a read http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/news/85234

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

All of England's forwards seem poor. If Australia play like they did when they beat NZ this year they will smash England to bits.

ssaye2

Trip?

ssaye2

Barratt a liability

aimee1

Thats 3-4 pens against barritt

Pudsy33

Brad Barrit is a ludicrously average player

Losty Dublin

Al_Coholic wrote: »

here in Mexico they are advertising Tonga vs Georgia a 5.45am.....i dont think ill get up for that one.

Wimp.

Al_Coholic

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Wimp.

haha i know

bilston

ThisRegard wrote: »

The TMOs are constantly reviewing the video from a whole pile of angles they have, I think he was also asked to go upstairs by England.

This might be worth a read http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/news/85234

If that's the case then fair enough.

rrpc

bilston wrote: »

My issue withe Matawalu non try is that it was the TV producer that had the ultimate power. If he/she hadn't shown the replay the try would have stood. The officials had nothing to do with that. Yes the right call was made but what if the TV producer doesn't show a replay at the other end for whatever reason?

TMO is constantly reviewing footage. They see a lot more than us. At least six screens.

ssaye2

Average England display so far nerves and early game sloppiness

Losty Dublin

Well the assistant referee isn't in on the conspiracy; that was a good spot on the Fiji penalty for a off the ball trip. Shame about the miss, though.

captbarnacles

Game turning into exactly what Fiji want.

bilston

rrpc wrote: »

TMO is constantly reviewing footage. They see a lot more than us. At least six screens.

It just looked to me like Pepyer went upstairs after seeing the big screen as opposed to anything the TMO said to him. Maybe it was unfortunate timing and the message came through from the TMO at the same time as the replay was shown and the crowd made a lot of Oooooooooohing sounds.

aimee1

Marler again

alias no.9

ThisRegard wrote: »

They always use it. Owens will often use it when making decisions.

Watching the replay after calling the TMO is a little different than calling the TMO based on seeing an incidental replay.

chupacabra

Its so maddening watching the feed into the scrum. Every scrum so far has been extremely crooked.

Stheno

I'd say the next score is pretty important

Raft of subs on now for England

ssaye2

Tmo against England oooh

DDC1990

Pen Fiji