Chelsea v Arsenal, 12.45pm k/o

Dozen Wicked Words

JustTheOne wrote: »

Oh stop with the faux outrage.

It's pathetic.

Irony overload.

Kirby

Deleted User wrote: »

That's fairly horrible.

Yes it is. But if you act like a scumbag, dont come crying when you get treated like one. To use a recent example, if the PSV players had accused Luke shaw of faking while he lay there with a broken leg, how many tears would have been shed at them getting a kick in retaliation? Not many

It's simple. Act like a gentleman and you get treated like one. Act like the other....and you get your just deserts.

Dozen Wicked Words

Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »

Football will be the winner.

Nil Nil.

So probably wrong on both counts.

3 important points for Chelsea though.

Panthro

Thoroughly enjoyed the game up to the sending off. It was end to end stuff, had a classic derby feel about it! Cech deservedly got a good reception from the home crowd, terrific keeper. Glad he's still 1st choice keeper for a team in the Premier League.
There was a spell before the second goal where I felt Chelsea would falter and concede but thanks be a fook the second went in.
Good game, onwards and upwards to 13th, yeeeeoww!:D

extra gravy

Costa being described as a "warrior". Bloody hilarious. Chelsea fans are the gift that keep on giving.

Panthro

extra gravy wrote: »

Costa being described as a "warrior". Bloody hilarious. Chelsea fans are the gift that keep on giving.

I wanted him to be labelled as a 'Zeus, king of the Olympian Gods'...but I was over ruled.
i'll appeal it at the next CFC Fan club meeting, don't you worry!

Kirby

He's more Quasimodo than Zeus to be honest. :P

Panthro

Kirby wrote: »

He's more Quasimodo than Zeus to be honest. :P

Fackin' ell Kirby!:pac:

Mr.H

As a Liverpool fan and a HUGE Suarez fan.

Costa is the exact same breed as Suarez. They are both hated by everyone but fans they played for. They love to win and will do ANYTHING to win. But the problem is they behave like idiots on the field when they are trying to win.

They act like scumbags (I am not calling them scumbags in anyway) to other people. Costa has flicked snot, spat, heatbutted and yes even bitten opponents. Suarez we all know his history.

The passion they have for winning is admirable for their own fans because they show fight that some players may not. For example Joe Cole never showed fight for Liverpool. Half the team right now dont show fight for Liverpool So when you have these type of players like Suarez or Costa you cant help but love them.

BUT you can see how others hate them and their antics.

Costa should be punished but probably wont be. How that man doesnt have more reds is unbelievable. He headbutted Coleman last season and walked free. The mans passion as I said is admirable but it is borderline dangerous at times.

If he played for Liverpool I would love him regardless though

JustTheOne

Mr.H wrote: »

As a Liverpool fan and a HUGE Suarez fan.

Costa is the exact same breed as Suarez. They are both hated by everyone but fans they played for. They love to win and will do ANYTHING to win. But the problem is they behave like idiots on the field when they are trying to win.

They act like scumbags (I am not calling them scumbags in anyway) to other people. Costa has flicked snot, spat, heatbutted and yes even bitten opponents. Suarez we all know his history.

The passion they have for winning is admirable for their own fans because they show fight that some players may not. For example Joe Cole never showed fight for Liverpool. Half the team right now dont show fight for Liverpool So when you have these type of players like Suarez or Costa you cant help but love them.

BUT you can see how others hate them and their antics.

Costa should be punished but probably wont be. How that man doesnt have more reds is unbelievable. He headbutted Coleman last season and walked free. The mans passion as I said is admirable but it is borderline dangerous at times.

If he played for Liverpool I would love him regardless though

Fair enough but I just don't get this thinking.

It's like saying its ok to do wrong things like headbutt people as long as its one of your own.

But if its not one of your own its wrong.

Is there not some bit of hypocrisy in this? Is it a belief we should all carry in life?

Thrown all your morals out the window for a football club just seems strange.

Mr.H

JustTheOne wrote: »

Fair enough but I just don't get this thinking.

It's like saying its ok to do wrong things like headbutt people as long as its one of your own.

But if its not one of your own its wrong.

Is there not some bit of hypocrisy in this? Is it a belief we should all carry in life?

Thrown all your morals out the window fora football club just seems strange.

Unfortunately this is football

I doubt many Arsenal fans will allude to the fact that no team has more red cards in the Premier league era than Arsenal............... They love their club and that is one thing I can understand about them.

Its not that its excusable. Its that it is overlooked for the "good" qualities it brings such as passion.

By the way I agree its not right. But I am saying that I get it and I know I do it also. We all do.

Henry's handball wouldnt have outraged if it was Keane's handball for example

Kirby

Kirby wrote: »

Yes it is. But if you act like a scumbag, dont come crying when you get treated like one. To use a recent example, if the PSV players had accused Luke shaw of faking while he lay there with a broken leg, how many tears would have been shed at them getting a kick in retaliation? Not many

It's simple. Act like a gentleman and you get treated like one. Act like the other....and you get your just deserts.

First of all, Haaland had no idea that Keane had torn a ligament. It looked like he had dived, he collapsed with little contact. Secondly, Keane did the exact same you accuse Haaland of ie. leaning over an injured player and mouthing off.

There is an old saying about sticks and stones. Keane used to brood for years over words. And he was nasty. His stamp on Southgate was awful. And getting back to Costa, so far he has not shown anything like that level of nastiness, so no Irish supporter who cheered on Keane can really moan about picking nasty players, we glorified one.

JustTheOne

Mr.H wrote: »

Unfortunately this is football

I doubt many Arsenal fans will allude to the fact that no team has more red cards in the Premier league era than Arsenal............... They love their club and that is one thing I can understand about them.

Its not that its excusable. Its that it is overlooked for the "good" qualities it brings such as passion.

By the way I agree its not right. But I am saying that I get it and I know I do it also. We all do.

Henry's handball wouldnt have outraged if it was Keane's handball for example

I'm sorry if I don't find headbutting scratching eye gouging unacceptable on a football field or off one.

I must not love my club as much as the next person so.

And I'll stay that way thank you.

average_runner

[Deleted User] wrote: »

First of all, Haaland had no idea that Keane had torn a ligament. It looked like he had dived, he collapsed with little contact. Secondly, Keane did the exact same you accuse Haaland of ie. leaning over an injured player and mouthing off.

There is an old saying about sticks and stones. Keane used to brood for years over words. And he was nasty. His stamp on Southgate was awful. And getting back to Costa, so far he has not shown anything like that level of nastiness, so no Irish supporter who cheered on Keane can really moan about picking nasty players, we glorified one.

So if someone else gave Costa that same treatment, Jose wouldn't be shouting about it.

Not a Keane fan, but Costa is a nasty player.

Panthro

JustTheOne wrote: »

I'm sorry if I don't find headbutting scratching eye gouging unacceptable on a football field or off one.

I must not love my club as much as the next person so.

And I'll stay that way thank you.

So if you don't find it unacceptable, does that mean that you in fact....do find it acceptable?.......

JustTheOne

Panthro wrote: »

So if you don't find it unacceptable, does that mean that you in fact....do find it acceptable?.......

It's come to picking my grammar mistakes I see.

Great.

Lovely Bloke

Football fans are hypocrites. Is this a surprise?

pmasterson95

I can get the blinkers due to fan bias but anyone who doesn't see anything wrong with Costa yesterday is worrying. Even by his own standards he was ridiculously over the top. And calling him a "warrior" is hilarious. He started begging for Gabriel to be sent off after a little kick. He is more of a cry baby than warrior. He just has major anger issues and is a thug.

gosplan

pmasterson95 wrote: »

I can get the blinkers due to fan bias but anyone who doesn't see anything wrong with Costa yesterday is worrying. Even by his own standards he was ridiculously over the top. And calling him a "warrior" is hilarious. He started begging for Gabriel to be sent off after a little kick. He is more of a cry baby than warrior. He just has major anger issues and is a thug.

In morality terms, it's called utilitarianism I think. The ends justify the means.

The opposite, deontology, is where something is right or wrong on it's own merits.

The problem with saying Costa's form of cheating is OK because it's justified by the results he gets is that it's analogous to Juve bribing refs or someone deliberately injuring a player.

JustTheOne

gosplan wrote: »

In morality terms, it's called utilitarianism I think. The ends justify the means.

The opposite, deontology, is where something is right or wrong on it's own merits.

The problem with saying Costa's form of cheating is OK because it's justified by the results he gets is that it's analogous to Juve bribing refs or someone deliberately injuring a player.

Very true win by any means ay.

hullaballoo

Thanks for all the facepalm lols. Looking forward to doing this all again soon.

Corholio

Deleted User wrote: »

That doesn't mean anything. You think it's not extremely nasty to stamp on a player into his chest or try to sever someone's knee because the guilty party "could take as much as he dished out"?

That's just a cliche fired at the issue and it doesn't make sense. A player is either nasty or not. Keane was nasty. Costa is. Keane went out to injure and hurt players because, in his head, he held grudges for years.

I don't know what exactly your arguing against. My point was to simply state that Costa isn't of the same ilk as Keane, in that he could take it without moaning or the antics that Costa does. I already said Keane was nasty so I don't know what you're trying to disprove.

peteeeed

The arse. A model club

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