Liverpool V Norwich 4PM 20/09/15 (can be found somewhere)

brevity

Sand wrote: »

Good result for Liverpool. A lot of positives to take from the result and the performance I think.

Unfortunately some Liverpool fans will agree with this...

Turtyturd

brevity wrote: »

Unfortunately some Liverpool fans will agree with this...

But the sensible ones will see it for what it was.

Soups123

Problem for Liverpool is they are so poor it'll be hard to get a decent coach to come in if they sack Rogers.

happyoutscan

kfallon wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Why these tossers are allowed this **** ill never know. Not you kfallon, the moron you're reacting to. That's me finished.

niallo27

Soups123 wrote: »

Problem for Liverpool is they are so poor it'll be hard to get a decent coach to come in if they sack Rogers.

Bollox they are one of the biggest teams in the world.

BMMachine

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

A fair result, not much difference in quality between the two

Were you not watching the Utd game?

Or is this just trolling?

BorneTobyWilde

Lucky to escape with a draw in the end. We are a poor team at the minute.

chupacabra

happyoutscan wrote: »

Why these tossers are allowed this **** ill never know. That's me finished.

Because Liverpool fans dont come into UTD matchthreads and post OTT reactions to opposition goals/results at all, yup not at all. :rolleyes:

Charlie19

niallo27 wrote: »

Did you watch the game.

I know for sure that I wouldn't bother my bollox stream a utd game that kicked off the same time as a Liverpool game.

Soups123

niallo27 wrote: »

There not a poor team though. Loads of potential there but it's not happening. They should have won easily today just shocking finishing.

I think they're poor, the amount f wastage there is unreal, it's hard to see were they go from here.

It needs an onfield and off field overhaul, beg Kloop to come and get a DOF in that he is happy with

Soups123

niallo27 wrote: »

Bollox they are one of the biggest teams in the world.

Used to be Niallo used to be!

stampydmonkey

ASOT wrote: »

One positive Firmino looked good.

....Argentina are beating new Zealand. ..

niallo27

Soups123 wrote: »

I think they're poor, the amount f wastage there is unreal, it's hard to see were they go from here.

It needs an onfield and off field overhaul, beg Kloop to come and get a DOF in that he is happy with

There is plenty there to work on to make top 4. Missing a world class player but it's far from poor.

Charlie19

only four points off third.

Soups123

niallo27 wrote: »

There is plenty there to work on to make top 4. Missing a world class player but it's far from poor.

It needs a lot more than that, one WC player gets you competing top 4 only if he's a goalscorer. Coutinho is your best player and he struggles to get in to any of the other top 4/5 teams

niallo27

Soups123 wrote: »

It needs a lot more than that, one WC player gets you competing top 4 only if he's a goalscorer. Coutinho is your best player and he struggles to get in to any of the other top 4/5 teams

Your saying struidge wouldn't make the arsenal team.

Soups123

niallo27 wrote: »

Your saying struidge wouldn't make the arsenal team.

Nope not until he's fit.

Mr_Muffin

Liverpool are a mid table team these days akin to Spurs.

It's kinda sad really. Even over the last few years you always thought they had a tiny chance of grabbing the title but not anymore. I don't see them winning another title this side of 2020.

niallo27

Soups123 wrote: »

Nope not until he's fit.

That team finished should have won the league two years ago with a world class player in it. That team went to the Emirates few games back and played them off the field for 45 mins. If the players aren't good enough isn't Rodgers doing well to get them up around top 4.

Hank Scorpio

Mr_Muffin wrote: »

I don't see them winning another title this side of 2020.

Hard to say, they've got some outstanding technicians

CSF

Mr_Muffin wrote: »

Liverpool are a mid table team these days akin to Spurs.

It's kinda sad really. Even over the last few years you always thought they had a tiny chance of grabbing the title but not anymore. I don't see them winning another title this side of 2020.

Inclined to agree. The standard of player has really really dropped. Throughout the years Liverpool always had players that would get into any team in the league. Owen, Alonso, Gerrard, Suarez. For whatever reason that no longer is the case, you can pick 1 or 2 players here and there that would get in at some of the better teams, but Liverpool are so in need of a standout player to drive the rest of the team forward and inspire enthusiasm.

Soups123

niallo27 wrote: »

That team finished should have won the league two years ago with a world class player in it. That team went to the Emirates few games back and played them off the field for 45 mins. If the players aren't good enough isn't Rodgers doing well to get them up around top 4.

Ah 2 yrs ago was a freak, ran with the confidence. You've lost all your front 3 from that really.

Playing Arsenal off the field for 45mins is nothing, you've been **** the other half of that game and every other

MightyMandarin

niallo27 wrote: »

That team finished should have won the league two years ago with a world class player in it. That team went to the Emirates few games back and played them off the field for 45 mins. If the players aren't good enough isn't Rodgers doing well to get them up around top 4.

A top manager can take an average squad to greatness. Simeone did it with Atletico, Mourinho did it with Porto.

A poor manager can drag a good team to mediocrity. That's what Rodgers is doing with us right now.

niallo27

It's not about winning the title for liverpool. Top 4 has to be the aim. That's just life.

CSF

niallo27 wrote: »

That team finished should have won the league two years ago with a world class player in it. That team went to the Emirates few games back and played them off the field for 45 mins. If the players aren't good enough isn't Rodgers doing well to get them up around top 4.

That period when Suarez, Sterling and Sturridge were destroying all around them seems a mile away from what Liverpool have in an attacking sense now, including Sturridge who hasn't been fit enough to make any real impact since.

niallo27

MightyMandarin wrote: »

A top manager can take an average squad to greatness. Simeone did it with Atletico, Mourinho did it with Porto.

A poor manager can drag a good team to mediocrity. That's what Rodgers is doing with us right now.

I agree with you, my point is there is the bones of a good side there.

niallo27

Soups123 wrote: »

Ah 2 yrs ago was a freak, ran with the confidence. You've lost all your front 3 from that really.

Playing Arsenal off the field for 45mins is nothing, you've been **** the other half of that game and every other

You don't get a 38 game freak.

colly10

Charlie19 wrote: »

only four points off third.

Or you could say 13th place

Rayne Wooney

If Southampton got a world class player they could break top 4 too

I think if Liverpool get a good manager in Southampton will be their direct rivals for 6th place, Spurs are a little better than them

Charlie19

colly10 wrote: »

Or you could say 13th place

Or closer to third than third from bottom.

MightyMandarin

niallo27 wrote: »

I agree with you, my point is there is the bones of a good side there.

Our current squad is quite good on paper. Mignolet is a poor keeper and only Sakho would remain at CB if I were in charge, but we should still be doing much better than we are currently, and for that I blame Rodgers.

niallo27

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

If Southampton got a world class player they could break top 4 too

I think if Liverpool get a good manager in Southampton will be their direct rivals for 6th place, Spurs are a little better than them

You can do better than that. Well I hope you can anyway.

Heisenberg1

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

If Southampton got a world class player they could break top 4 too

I think if Liverpool get a good manager in Southampton will be their direct rivals for 6th place, Spurs are a little better than them

Thanks Rayne you prick!

BMMachine

ignoring the trolls (Man Utd. fans that need those 'little victories', hence why they chose to support that club) and actually looking at the game, there is very definitely a difference in quality between the two teams. Liverpool have far better players and you could see that in how they were able to control the ball and work the attacks. Where they fall down is that nearly every attack is overcooked to f**k. Extra unnecessary touches, no direction and panicked decision making. At the end up the first half, if we were a team playing with confidence and direction, we would have been 1 if not 2 up. Norwich weren't doing anything special and looked pretty sloppy. Eventually we do get a goal, and as we know in football 1 is never enough and Martin did really well for his goal (difference between Ruddy and Mignolet there - Ruddy looked assured all day and caught everything, Mignolet punches clear once and it cost him. Mignolet doesn't have that assuredness you see in some keepers).
When we had to chase for our second, despite having plenty of skillful players (firminio, lallana, coutinho) we had absolutely no direction with them, overcooked leading up play or undercooked shots. To me, thats down to the coach and the leaders on the pitch. I don't think we have a clear plan as to how to win a game and I think for sure we need to be better organised. We are better than Norwich, we have better players, we are a better quality team - we just don't seem to have a clue how to use it and that comes down to a man called Brendan.

5starpool

chupacabra wrote: »

Because Liverpool fans dont come into UTD matchthreads and post OTT reactions to opposition goals/results at all, yup not at all. :rolleyes:

The majority don't, some do. Those that do are a pain in the hole for utd fans, same as the likes of Mick is a pain in the hole for Liverpool fans. Why should a few on either side make things annoying for the majority of the others? Saying 'well ye do it' is missing the point entirely.

^oh man :P

Charlie19

Heisenberg1 wrote: »

Thanks Rayne you prick!

I wont lie.. That gave me a chuckle

niallo27

niallo27 wrote: »

You don't get a 38 game freak.

Tbf Suarez can, and did it that season

MightyMandarin

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Tbf Suarez can, and did it that season

You think Suarez was only a one-off in that season?

MightyMandarin

MightyMandarin wrote: »

You think Suarez was only a one-off in that season?

A one-off for liverpool, all thanks to suarez
I repeat Suarez has the capacity to made a mediocre team look good
You failed to read the post correctly

He covered for Rodgers who is a spoofer

You read the post wrong

niallo27

M!Ck^ wrote: »

A one-off for liverpool, all thanks to suarez
I repeat Suarez has the capacity to made a mediocre team look good
You failed to read the post correctly

He covered for Rodgers who is a spoofer

You read the post wrong

Hang on Mickers. You told me Suarez was overrated and only scored against the poor teams and was it you that posted the amount of points that Suarez goals won and it made very little difference. Which is it mickey.

MightyMandarin

M!Ck^ wrote: »

A one-off for liverpool, all thanks to suarez
I repeat Suarez has the capacity to made a mediocre team look good
You failed to read the post correctly

He covered for Rodgers who is a spoofer

You read the post wrong

I did read the post wrong, but I don't think that he was solely responsible for that season.

Sturridge still managed 21 goals, Gerrard got to double figures iirc, and our midfield fed Suarez a lot of ball.

He was the catalyst and made others up their effort.

Whilst I don't think SAS was down to Rodgers, to say Suarez was the only reason for 13/14 is wrong.

BMMachine

niallo27 wrote: »

Hang on Mickers. You told me Suarez was overrated and only scored against the poor teams and was it you that posted the amount of points that Suarez goals won and it made very little difference. Which is it mickey.

its whatever opinion makes him feel good at the time. thats why hes in this, not to support anyone, but to feel better than others

mada999

Charlie19 wrote: »

only four points off third.

problem is maybe in the next few games it only be "7 points" off third, then it'll be only "9 points off third" and then it'll be "12 points" etc etc...

Anyway, lets hope Mr Henry and his fine-ass Lady keep this Rodgers guy in charge

Never know could be an exciting season for pool fans

Relagation battles are brilliant fun

niallo27

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Anyway, lets hope Mr Henry and his fine-ass Lady keep this Rodgers guy in charge

Never know could be an exciting season for pool fans

Relagation battles are brilliant fun

You never answered my question mickey.

Sand

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Anyway, lets hope Mr Henry and his fine-ass Lady keep this Rodgers guy in charge

Never know could be an exciting season for pool fans

Relagation battles are brilliant fun

Rodgers gets far too much stick imo. Of his front three, both Suarez and Sterling have forced moves to bigger clubs. Sturridge needs to start praying to a new god because the current one isn't helping him on the injuries front. Stevie Me was never a leader, but he was too big for Rodgers to take on or replace directly.

Any manager is going to struggle in those scenarios. Sure, Rodgers has made a few mis-steps in the transfer market, but all managers do, and his work this summer was pretty good all things considered for a club with no CL football to offer.

Liverpool fans need to keep the faith. Rodgers has a young team with a lot of potential. They have to trust that Rodgers will lead them to where they deserve to be.

And honestly, who are they going to replace Rodgers with? Neither Sherwood nor Moyes are currently available. Maybe at the end of the season.

Sand

Sand wrote: »

Rodgers gets far too much stick imo. Of his front three, both Suarez and Sterling have forced moves to bigger clubs. Sturridge needs to start praying to a new god because the current one isn't helping him on the injuries front. Stevie Me was never a leader, but he was too big for Rodgers to take on or replace directly.

Any manager is going to struggle in those scenarios. Sure, Rodgers has made a few mis-steps in the transfer market, but all managers do, and his work this summer was pretty good all things considered for a club with no CL football to offer.

Liverpool fans need to keep the faith. Rodgers has a young team with a lot of potential. They have to trust that Rodgers will lead them to where they deserve to be.

And honestly, who are they going to replace Rodgers with? Neither Sherwood nor Moyes are currently available. Maybe at the end of the season.

Have go disagree with some of this Sand.
I would safely say they have kept good faith in him long enough.

I would agree with you about replacements. I'm really not sure who they can replace him with. Moyes would be a good fit IMO.

He could get them organised at the very least. There all over the place defensively.

Sand

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Have go disagree with some of this Sand.
I would safely say they have kept good faith in him long enough.

I would agree with you about replacements. I'm really not sure who they can replace him with. Moyes would be a good fit IMO.

He could get them organised at the very least. There all over the place defensively.

He has got the big club experience that Rodgers lacks. And he has bags of PL experience. I think if there was a role available back in Liverpool, he would be very tempted.

xabi

What Moyes with big club experience?? Horse ****, Everton are average at best