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Trouble with the law! HELP!

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    #62
    fineso.mom
    Registered Users Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭fineso.mom


    So what are these ways ? Since you came looking for ideas and got lots of advice,II think its reasonable to ask how he got sorted. Might help someone in a similar situation out.
    And it might be an idea to suggest he gets everything sorted before going back on the road or you'll be posting again in a few weeks.


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    #63
    Chemical Byrne
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Chemical Byrne


    I'd be very interested to know how he got off?

    No offence OP, but your brother sounds like a complete space cadet. How at the age of around 30, has he not got a bit of cop on.


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    #64
    nicmarie
    Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭nicmarie


    Chemical Byrne wrote: »
    I'd be very interested to know how he got off?

    No offence OP, but your brother sounds like a complete space cadet. How at the age of around 30, has he not got a bit of cop on.

    He is a bit of a space cadet. He went to a local station and told the cop that he had lost the licence and couldn't produce it miles away where he was stopped the cop then checked his insurance which he gave in to him. The cop then said not to worry that he'd sort it... He was lucky. He said he is going to get his act together so let's hope so :)


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    #65
    Chemical Byrne
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Chemical Byrne


    So he is still spinning the aul yarns to the Guards? Jeez!

    FFS, and I don't mean to be getting on to you, but what is you brother's deal like? I assume he's 30ish as someone estimated and he seems to be behaving like a 15 year old saying i lost my homework. Even the "I lost it" excuse isn't acceptable from a 15yo.

    I think your family need to sit him down and talk some sense into him. On the driving front anyway, tell him to get a learner permit, book some lessons and apply for the test.
    Or is he going to live the rest of his life as a space cadet ducking and diving away from any sort of responsibility?


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    #66
    awec
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    Surely the guard will have taken his details and then be able to look up whether or not he actually has a licence?


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    #67
    jimmii
    Registered Users Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭jimmii


    nicmarie wrote: »
    He is a bit of a space cadet. He went to a local station and told the cop that he had lost the licence and couldn't produce it miles away where he was stopped the cop then checked his insurance which he gave in to him. The cop then said not to worry that he'd sort it... He was lucky. He said he is going to get his act together so let's hope so :)

    Well if the lies don't work to start may as well just keep lying and hope it some how works out. How could that go wrong.


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    #68
    nicmarie
    Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭nicmarie


    awec wrote: »
    Surely the guard will have taken his details and then be able to look up whether or not he actually has a licence?

    That's what I thought but he didn't.


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    #69
    jimmii
    Registered Users Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭jimmii


    nicmarie wrote: »
    That's what I thought but he didn't.

    Eventually he's going to run out of luck and they're going to come down on him hard once they dig all this up.


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    #70
    nicmarie
    Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭nicmarie


    Chemical Byrne wrote: »
    So he is still spinning the aul yarns to the Guards? Jeez!

    FFS, and I don't mean to be getting on to you, but what is you brother's deal like? I assume he's 30ish as someone estimated and he seems to be behaving like a 15 year old saying i lost my homework. Even the "I lost it" excuse isn't acceptable from a 15yo.

    I think your family need to sit him down and talk some sense into him. On the driving front anyway, tell him to get a learner permit, book some lessons and apply for the test.
    Or is he going to live the rest of his life as a space cadet ducking and diving away from any sort of responsibility?

    He didn't tell the rest of the family only me. He has bought the theory book and cd and he says he will get the act together. If you knew the amount of things he has gotten away with in life you wouldn't believe me! And he's never been arrested.. I always said he had a screw loose..


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    #71
    jimmii
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    nicmarie wrote: »
    He didn't tell the rest of the family only me. He has bought the theory book and cd and he says he will get the act together. If you knew the amount of things he has gotten away with in life you wouldn't believe me! And he's never been arrested.. I always said he had a screw loose..

    He felt the need to leave the country for 10 years thats hardly getting away with it.


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    #72
    Chemical Byrne
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Chemical Byrne


    What other strokes has he pulled?


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    #73
    uck51js9zml2yt
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    Chemical Byrne wrote: »
    What other strokes has he pulled?

    More importantly, what stroke did he pull to get away with it?


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    #74
    Meauldsegosha
    Registered Users Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭Meauldsegosha


    nicmarie wrote: »
    He is a bit of a space cadet. He went to a local station and told the cop that he had lost the licence and couldn't produce it miles away where he was stopped the cop then checked his insurance which he gave in to him. The cop then said not to worry that he'd sort it... He was lucky. He said he is going to get his act together so let's hope so :)

    Has he told his insurance company he doesn't hold a valid licence or learners permit? And is he still driving?


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    #75
    endacl
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    I don't know. The bell end here isn't the OP. It's her brother. Who, admittedly, has been presented as a monumental bell end. Maybe lay off her?


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    #76
    ShaShaBear
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    endacl wrote: »
    I don't know. The bell end here isn't the OP. It's her brother. Who, admittedly, has been presented as a monumental bell end. Maybe lay off her?

    Pretty much as big a problem making a joke about how "there are ways around everything" like she's delighted he lied to the guards, twice, and got away with it.

    Or at least, appears to have gotten away with it.

    When they realise he holds no licence and was caught driving before on an illegal one in this country, he could end up getting a lovely letter in the post to the address supplied on his dodgy insurance ;)


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    #77
    Losty Dublin
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    nicmarie wrote: »
    He is a bit of a space cadet. He went to a local station and told the cop that he had lost the licence and couldn't produce it miles away where he was stopped the cop then checked his insurance which he gave in to him. The cop then said not to worry that he'd sort it... He was lucky. He said he is going to get his act together so let's hope so :)

    Except he hasn't sorted it out.


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    #78
    Marcusm
    Registered Users Posts: 10,320 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    Stheno wrote: »
    It's a fixed penalty notice with a fine and points

    You'd swear it was the end of the world the way you are posting

    He could get 6 months for providing false information to obtain insurance. It's not a motoring offence, it's deception - Criminal Justice (Theft and other fraud offences) Act 2001.


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    #79
    4ensic15
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    Obtaining insurance by fraud or deception is an offence under Section 64 of the Road traffic Act 1961.


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    #80
    ezra_pound
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    Did he pay all fines for his previous motoring convictions? Because that could come back to haunt him too.


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    #81
    ezra_pound
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    Nomis21 wrote: »
    He'll get a fine about 200 or 300 Euro and points on a licence he has yet to get.

    The other issue of 10 years ago is passed the statute of limitations for motoring offences.

    He took a gamble and lost. Now it's time to pay up. Simple as that.

    Presumably the matter was prosecuted and he was convicted ten years ago.


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    #82
    Arbiter of Good Taste
    Registered Users Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭Arbiter of Good Taste


    OP your brother is an idiot and you're his enabler. It's shameful


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    #83
    cast_iron
    Registered Users Posts: 2,454 ✭✭✭cast_iron


    Marcusm wrote: »
    He could get 6 months for providing false information to obtain insurance. It's not a motoring offence, it's deception - Criminal Justice (Theft and other fraud offences) Act 2001.
    Yea, and all the bankers will be jailed for their part in the banking crisis. (Not)
    This is Ireland, there are ways and means about everything. Gardai are not generally in the habit of chasing people 10 years on for anything, especially motoring offences. All the holier than thou posting on boards.ie won't change that.


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