Dublin is an unadulterated kip

Broken Hearted Road

I'm not from Dublin but I do like Dublin. Dublin has so much going on like the national museum of Ireland, the national gallery of Ireland, Trinity college, the wax museum, cathedrals to visit, the zoo, concert halls and arenas, the stadiums and so much more. It really is a lovely city.

It does have some bad aspects that puts me off like mainly anti social stuff like beggers, druggies and day light public drinking, etc. There should be a zero tolerance approach to tackling this anti social behaviour.

Something else that puts me off is the greed of many establishments in the city. Like I was in Dublin recently for the day and night. I had many things planned for the day. At night time, I tried to call into a few places beside the bus stop to sit in and have a drink or two while waiting for my bus home and many places required an admission charge. Sickening. I ended up walking away from many doors. I'm not going to pay €10 euro in to buy one or two drinks.

Simon2015

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

You resurrected this thread to say that? Yawn.

My point is there is noway anyone can claim "Dublin is a safe city" when we have a much higher murder rate than England.

gumbo1

Simon2015 wrote: »

My point is there is noway anyone can claim "Dublin is a safe city" when we have a much higher murder rate than England.

Have a look at the statistics for knife crime in England, then narrow it the big cities like Manchester Liverpool London and the like and compare that to Dublin.
You'll only get shot up here if you deserve it!
34 years living in this city and I've only seen 1 mugging, which I intervened in. I don't personally know anyone who has had their phone taken from their hands or anyone else who has been mugged. I do know people who have violence visited upon them but they were actively seeking it! It's like everything in every big city in every country if you go looking for it you'll find it. Dublin is a safe city as is every county around the island for you and me walking around doing our day to day.

thattequilagirl

Simon2015 wrote: »

My point is there is noway anyone can claim "Dublin is a safe city" when we have a much higher murder rate than England.

Gangland murder. If you're not involved in gangland crime you're fairly safe.

Simon2015

gumbo1 wrote: »

You'll only get shot up here if you deserve it!

Thats not true plenty of innocent people have been killed in gangland attacks who were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.

thattequilagirl

Simon2015 wrote: »

Thats not true plenty of innocent people have been killed in gangland attacks who were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.

That's not true. It happens, but it's rare.

murpho999

Simon2015 wrote: »

The gangland murder rate is 6 times higher in Ireland than it is England.

Most of those murders happen in Dublin yet we are meant to believe that Dublin is "safe" city.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/exclusive-six-times-more-gun-homicides-here-than-in-england-and-wales-34566358.html

Well done.

You pick a day that stats are released showing that murders decreased last year and only 30 people were murdered in Ireland last year, including gangand and not all in Dublin.

This is proof of how incredibly safe Ireland and Dublin are when compared to anywhere in the world.

Minderbinder

When was the last time an innocent bystander was killed in a gangland attack in Dublin?

Billy86

Simon2015 wrote: »

My point is there is noway anyone can claim "Dublin is a safe city" when we have a much higher murder rate than England.

Are you trying to compare a city with a whole country? Fine. How does Dublin's murder rate stack up with Syria or El Salvador?

But to address your point, from Nov 2014 - Oct 2015 Ireland had 30 murders last year - 0.6 per 100,000, and a figure that declined from years previous.

From Nov 2014 - Oct 2015, the UK had 574 murders - 0.9 per 100,000, a figure steadily on the rise. That figure doesn't include Northern Ireland though their numbers seem pretty consistent and with a population of about 2.5% of the rest of the UK, even during the Troubles they might not have made much a dent in it.

Basically, the data shows the opposite of what you want it to - Ireland is currently a lot safer than the UK, regarding murder rates.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Simon2015 wrote: »

Thats not true plenty of innocent people have been killed in gangland attacks who were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Then you can find and post detailed statistical breakdowns to bsck this up?

I think its fair to say you have the time, considering I accused you of confirmation bias three months ago and only today have you responded (eith a tabloid link and skewed statistics: I believe Limerick is lusted as officially being more dangerous than Dublin).

Muahahaha

Minderbinder wrote: »

When was the last time an innocent bystander was killed in a gangland attack in Dublin?

Its been a while I think. The last time I can remember is the two lads murdered at Tesco Clearwater in Finglas in 2010. It was a case of mistaken identity, the poor lads had nothing to do with gangland.

There hasn't been that many innocents caught up in it as a proportion of known criminals. I remember Baida Saulite in Swords, a plumbers apprentice in Finglas who got shot dead because he witnessed the main targets murder and I think there was one in Clontarf a few years back too.

Stojkovic

Im afraid to go to bed, I might wake up dead.

Cathy.C

Simon2015 wrote: »

Dublin is getting like the wild west. Yet people want to keep their heads buried in the sand.

Why bring Leitrim into it.

Stojkovic

Stojkovic wrote: »

Im afraid to go to bed, I might wake up dead.

Still alive today thank God.

See how it goes tonight.
Hope the flamethrower is charged.

Billy86

Stojkovic wrote: »

Still alive today thank God.

See how it goes tonight.
Hope the flamethrower is charged.

I'm across the water the last year, how's the guerilla filming of the next Mad Max: Fury Dublin Road coming along there?

The anti-water protests certainly have been getting more and more out of hand, though. Can't tell if that's Paul Murphy driving the car or on the guitar, mind?

Simon2015

A baby was almost shot this evening in a Dublin shopping centre.

More and more parts of Dublin are becoming no go areas for decent people.

Dublin is a great little city if you happen to be Scumbag.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/infant-narrowly-escapes-injury-after-shots-fired-in-attempted-gangland-hit-34611883.html

MilesMorales1

Simon2015 wrote: »

A baby was almost shot this evening in a Dublin shopping centre.

More and more parts of Dublin are becoming no go areas for decent people.

Dublin is a great little city if you happen to be Scumbag.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/infant-narrowly-escapes-injury-after-shots-fired-in-attempted-gangland-hit-34611883.html

Do you have nothing better to do than **** post about Dublin? This isn't Northern Ireland in the 70s, no go areas my arse.

12Phase

Dublin may be many things but unadulterated isn't one of them.

StudentDad

12Phase wrote: »

Dublin may be many things but unadulterated isn't one of them.

Really? Not too long ago I had to use the toilets in Heuston Stn. All fine except for the bloke shooting up at the sinks. He didn't give a toss. Needle, rubber pipe, the whole kit. Went on the Luas, fine except for the gangs of chancers trying to wrangle a few quid from me as I fed the ticket machine. People sleeping rough on the quays etc etc oh yes it was a joy to be in the Capital.

SD

Yillan

StudentDad wrote: »

Really? Not too long ago I had to use the toilets in Heuston Stn. All fine except for the bloke shooting up at the sinks. He didn't give a toss. Needle, rubber pipe, the whole kit. Went on the Luas, fine except for the gangs of chancers trying to wrangle a few quid from me as I fed the ticket machine. People sleeping rough on the quays etc etc oh yes it was a joy to be in the Capital.

SD

He was probably just washing his hands. Your fearful culchie brain probably misinterpreted reality and saw the thing you were afraid of. Same thing with the chancers trying to wrangle money from you at the ticket machine. Are you sure they weren't just queuing up behind you to buy tickets? The quays are a lovely place to spend an evening sleeping under the stars. A real treat for the more adventurous Dubliner during the balmy summer nights.

I've lived in Dublin for the past thousand years and have never had any trouble at all. You just have to keep your wits about you, like any big city. Like for instance I was in Galway when I was about eleven and I was mugged by a couple of twelve year olds, but they didn't get my gold teeth because I made sure not to smile while they were attacking me.

StudentDad

Yillan wrote: »

He was probably just washing his hands. Your fearful culchie brain probably misinterpreted reality and saw the thing you were afraid of. Same thing with the chancers trying to wrangle money from you at the ticket machine. Are you sure they weren't just queuing up behind you to buy tickets? The quays are a lovely place to spend an evening sleeping under the stars. A real treat for the more adventurous Dubliner during the balmy summer nights.

I've lived in Dublin for the past thousand years and have never had any trouble at all. You just have to keep your wits about you, like any big city. Like for instance I was in Galway when I was about eleven and I was mugged by a couple of twelve year olds, but they didn't get my gold teeth because I made sure not to smile while they were attacking me.

I never said I had any trouble, I just described what I saw and experienced. You don't like that. Not my problem.

SD

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Simon2015 wrote: »

A baby was almost shot this evening in a Dublin shopping centre.

More and more parts of Dublin are becoming no go areas for decent people.

Dublin is a great little city if you happen to be Scumbag.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/infant-narrowly-escapes-injury-after-shots-fired-in-attempted-gangland-hit-34611883.html

Confirmation bias again.... yawn....

12Phase

StudentDad wrote: »

Really? Not too long ago I had to use the toilets in Heuston Stn. All fine except for the bloke shooting up at the sinks. He didn't give a toss. Needle, rubber pipe, the whole kit. Went on the Luas, fine except for the gangs of chancers trying to wrangle a few quid from me as I fed the ticket machine. People sleeping rough on the quays etc etc oh yes it was a joy to be in the Capital.

SD

Check dictionary for meaning of unadulterated...

Esel

12Phase wrote: »

Check dictionary for meaning of unadulterated...

Also check 'kip'.

12Phase

Esel wrote: »

Also check 'kip'.

Yeah, but in Dublin slang kip means a rundown dump/mess.

KERSPLAT!

This probably should have been nipped a lot earlier, our bad.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=175

If you want to talk about Dublin specifically there's a whole forum for it