ZUK Z1 - Flagship & OnePlus Killer?

Mourinho

I think this deserves its own thread. The ZUK Z1 is being made by another Chinese start up, like the first OnePlus One, however ZUK are being supported by known manufacturer Lenovo.

The international version will be running Cyanogen mod, along with top specs for a $319 price.

The highlights being:


5.5 inch, 1080 x 1920 pixels screen
Snapdragon 801
3GB RAM
64GB Storage
13MP rear camera with OIS
8MP front facing camera
4,000mah battery

Ok the 801 will no doubt be labelled outdated to some but at least the possible 810 overheating will be avoided and that package for that price seems like a good one!

The only EU drawback I can see is no LTE band 20 like the OP1 had.

Overall very tempted to make this my next phone

Here's a few links

http://m.gsmarena.com/lenovo_zuk_z1-7511.php

http://www.zdnet.com/article/initial-impressions-of-the-zuk-z1-300-cyanogen-powered-android-smartphone/

http://www.engadget.com/2015/08/21/the-international-version-of-the-lenovo-backed-zuk-z1-runs-cyano/

coldfire1x

Seems promising. I was looking at it. It will be probably €50 cheaper if you factor in the shipping, customer and handling chargers. I guess it will cost around €375.

Battery looks good and as you mentioned, processor is old.

Mourinho

coldfire1x wrote: »

Seems promising. I was looking at it. It will be probably €50 cheaper if you factor in the shipping, customer and handling chargers. I guess it will cost around €375.

Battery looks good and as you mentioned, processor is old.

Just looked at OppO Mart there who I bought a Find 7 off before.

$319 plus $20 for expedited shipping

Or $319 plus $30 via DHL/TNT/EMS

So let's say $350 that's €315

Wonder what's the story with tax didn't get hit for the Find 7 anyway think they have a European centre.

Edit; They do have a European centre!

heebusjeebus

Not too bad but a Snapdragon 805 would have been nice.
It has basically the same internals as the OnePlus One but with 1,000 mAh more battery.
The battery is actually very impressive. Might convince me to move on from my OPO if I hear good reports.

Oppomart have it for €284 and €18 delivery from within the EU so no extra tax.

coldfire1x

Around €300 probably be the right price. Looks nice as well.

Mourinho

heebusjeebus wrote: »

Not too bad but a Snapdragon 805 would have been nice.
It has basically the same internals as the OnePlus One but with 1,000 mAh more battery.
The battery is actually very impressive. Might convince me to move on from my OPO if I hear good reports.

Oppomart have it for €284 and €18 delivery from within the EU so no extra tax.

That battery and the camera combo plus C mod is what has me! Looks lovely too and the home button has a finger print sensor which is important to me too.

ED E

Mourinho wrote: »

Just looked at OppO Mart there who I bought a Find 7 off before.

$319 plus $20 for expedited shipping

Or $319 plus $30 via DHL/TNT/EMS

So let's say $350 that's €315

Wonder what's the story with tax didn't get hit for the Find 7 anyway think they have a European centre.

Edit; They do have a European centre!

Yeah, you arent accounting for VAT. Oppo have paid the VAT already when they brought it into London/Germany.

350 USD shipped = 315 EUR +78.75 EUR = 393.75. €400 isnt that cheap for a not so amazing spec phone. Find 7 QHD was €430 18 months ago. 1440p, 3GB, vSimilar cameras, smaller battery and slightly older chip.

When the OPO came out it was €320-350 delivered with really killer specs, this seems quite meh. Xiaomi would probably get my business.

EDIT: 4k mAh (we'll wait and see for that) but no mention of quickcharge?

Harika

The only thing that really annoys me with that phone are the missing notification LEDs and it seems 4G will only work fully on 3 here as not all bands are supported.

delph09

feel a little disappoint for the processor of the phone, the snapdragon 801 maybe has been out of date, I think it can not make the ZUK Z1 better, but still need to say other specifications are great.

CantGetNoSleep

I'd buy this for 200-250, for closer to 400 no way

Mourinho

ED E wrote: »

Yeah, you arent accounting for VAT. Oppo have paid the VAT already when they brought it into London/Germany.

350 USD shipped = 315 EUR +78.75 EUR = 393.75. €400 isnt that cheap for a not so amazing spec phone. Find 7 QHD was €430 18 months ago. 1440p, 3GB, vSimilar cameras, smaller battery and slightly older chip.

When the OPO came out it was €320-350 delivered with really killer specs, this seems quite meh. Xiaomi would probably get my business.

EDIT: 4k mAh (we'll wait and see for that) but no mention of quickcharge?

Where are you getting the tax from? EU expedited shipping has no customs or tax same as when I got the Find 7.

http://www.oppomart.com/shipping/

So it is €315 delivered with EU.

Well compared to most other androids out there I prefer it. Rear camera with 13MP & OIS with a 8MP front one. Finger print sensor and 4000mah while avoiding QHD bs suits me down to the ground with native OS of CM. They are all deal breakers for me I haven't seen many front cameras over 5MP.

Every other phone I've checked misses what I need.

S6 - terrible battery

Note 4 - front camera and its looks most importantly don't appeal

LG G4 - really liked but no fingerprint sensor that really was a deal breaker along with so so battery life

I just saw the Oppo R7 Plus earlier, that's one I must look at along with Nubia Z9 they seem interesting but maybe above my price.

If you can find a phone that has the above for me with a sub €400 then by all means please share as it would be nice to have more options.

Harika

To the VAT, I think most of the shops ship from the EU so you won`t pay tax for that? And most shops charge 330 with shipping.

Mourinho

Harika wrote: »

To the VAT, I think most of the shops ship from the EU so you won`t pay tax for that? And most shops charge 330 with shipping.

Yeah that's what I figured OppO Mart shipped from inside the EU lasts time and I had no extra charges bar the price and delivery.

I tired the ZUK all the way to confirmation in the site via PayPal today and it's only the $350 including delivery, no tax if shipped inside EU.

ED E

Mourinho wrote: »

Where are you getting the tax from? EU expedited shipping has no customs or tax same as when I got the Find 7.

That was based on the Zuks price likely being the price IN CHINA. Obviously if they have an EU base you wont pay the tax yourself, but the price will be higher at point of sale. If they were advertising the final EU sales price it'd be in euros.

coldfire1x

Another impressive specs:

4gb model:
http://www.elephone.cc/elephone-vowney.html

3gb model:
http://www.elephone.cc/elephone-vowney-3gb.html

ct5amr2ig1nfhp

Wow that Elephone Vowney looks impressive and at only 300 USD. What's the catch ?

SM01

I'm waiting impatiently for reviews of the zuk z1 to see if it's worth it.

As a layperson coming from a very laggy 2nd gen moto g with no idea about flashing ROMs etc. the Chinese phone market is both hugely enticing and fear inducing that I'm not technically astute enough to do what's necessary to make them fit for use. That the ZUK Z1 has an international model, that would take the uncertainty out of the situation and its a very healthy spec upgrade on my Moto g too.

connemara man

Any release date for this? I like the specs especially the battery for the price.

ct5amr2ig1nfhp

ZUK Z1 is available. Just a reminder that it doesn't support band 20 LTE/4G.

SM01

Android Authority posted a link to buy from France at a discounted price but presently it's out of stock.

SM01

I've just ordered the phone there from the Spanish eBay site for €290 (280 + 10 delivery) to arrive in about 10 days.

Hootanany

its on Aliexpress for $299 delivered

thomasj

As a meteor customer, lack of Band 20 is a showstopper for me. I have had the One plus one for the last year , that hasnt got band 20 and the LTE performance hasn't been the best.

Otherwise that battery is amazing and it has USB 3.0, something very few phones have. The OnePlus two with USB-C doesn't have it. The new nexus 5x and 6p both with USB-C won't have it.

CantGetNoSleep

I'm stuck between this, OnePlus 2 or something cheaper from China so my next phone, would be interested in hearing reviews once people get this

Harika

A review: http://www.androidauthority.com/zuk-z1-review-646123/
I ordered mine yesterday, let's see when it arrives, I will give you some impressions although I doubt it will be much different to the review above.

Jelle1880

Maggie Large Ripple wrote: »

Wow that Elephone Vowney looks impressive and at only 300 USD. What's the catch ?

Wondering that too, it looks like an amazing device

ct5amr2ig1nfhp

Go for it.... and let me know how you get on

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Wondering that too, it looks like an amazing device

CantGetNoSleep

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Wondering that too, it looks like an amazing device

Seems like they had pretty crap quality control on their P8000, would put me off a bit

connemara man

I want the grey one but the ebay sale site only has white. unless anyone has seen int anywhere?

Harika

I heard the grey one should go up for sale on the 20th.

connemara man

Harika wrote: »

I heard the grey one should go up for sale on the 20th.

My phone just had a freak out so I'm using my backup Sony which I hate. So I went ahead. I couldn't be bothered waiting for the grey

FaganJr

connemara man wrote: »

My phone just had a freak out so I'm using my backup Sony which I hate. So I went ahead. I couldn't be bothered waiting for the grey

I have also ordered the Z1, couldn't be bothered jumping through the hoops for the OnePlus 2 , I have the OnePlus 1 and love it but want a new toy.

Anyone got order tracking confirmation yet??

Harika

FaganJr wrote: »

I have also ordered the Z1, couldn't be bothered jumping through the hoops for the OnePlus 2 , I have the OnePlus 1 and love it but want a new toy.

Anyone got order tracking confirmation yet??

I got mine today, unfortunatley I needed a nano sim and carphone warehouse couldn't swap them so cut the micro sim instead what went wrong. Waiting now for the new sim to be activated.
My first impressions are all positive, the fingerprint sensor is outstanding and now just getting used to cyanogenmod instead of stock android.

Hootanany

Harika wrote: »

I got mine today, unfortunatley I needed a nano sim and carphone warehouse couldn't swap them so cut the micro sim instead what went wrong. Waiting now for the new sim to be activated.
My first impressions are all positive, the fingerprint sensor is outstanding and now just getting used to cyanogenmod instead of stock android.

Cyangenmod is brilliant

FaganJr

Harika wrote: »

I got mine today, unfortunatley I needed a nano sim and carphone warehouse couldn't swap them so cut the micro sim instead what went wrong. Waiting now for the new sim to be activated.
My first impressions are all positive, the fingerprint sensor is outstanding and now just getting used to cyanogenmod instead of stock android.

Cool, when did you order and how long for delivery?

SM01

Got mine but also awaiting nano sims :-/

I ordered Sunday and it arrived today from eBay Spain.

Looks good but surprised it's slightly larger the my girlfriends note 4. Not that that's a problem. It also feels lighter than my moto g second edition. I'm looking forward to getting to know it very soon.

EoinMcLovin

can be bought on official store at www.zuk-store.com/en/ for €280.91 and you get 2 year warranty

Harika

FaganJr wrote: »

Cool, when did you order and how long for delivery?

Tuesday and it arrived Thursday, but I ordered from honorbuy that have a storage facility in europe. Phone was all sealed so no Chinese version that they flashed with CM. IMO this was a "risk"

ct5amr2ig1nfhp

A little of topic but why don't you cut your SIM to nano size? It's very easy with a scissors.

Do post up a review when you get it up and running!

SM01

Maggie Large Ripple wrote: »

A little of topic but why don't you cut your SIM to nano size? It's very easy with a scissors.

Do post up a review when you get it up and running!

For me it's cause I'm so clumsy I'd feck even the most simple of jobs like this up. Also I'm left handed and can't use a right handed scissors!

Harika

Short Summary:
Battery Life is indeed outstanding. Charged it last time Thursday evening, took two hours from 40% to 100% since then had three cyanogen updates, downloaded all apps I needed and played around and as now battery is still at 40%. Settings tell me I have 24 hours left.
The phone has a notification LED on top.
With 3 I get 4G/LTE in Cork
Bluetooth paired easily with the car
Soundquality is okay, not outstanding
For any questions, just ask or PM.

connemara man

Harika wrote: »

Short Summary:
Battery Life is indeed outstanding. Charged it last time Thursday evening, took two hours from 40% to 100% since then had three cyanogen updates, downloaded all apps I needed and played around and as now battery is still at 40%. Settings tell me I have 24 hours left.
The phone has a notification LED on top.
With 3 I get 4G/LTE in Cork
Bluetooth paired easily with the car
Soundquality is okay, not outstanding
For any questions, just ask or PM.

Just got mine today. I'll give a light summary when I can. But happy with what I am dealing with at this moment

Korvanica

Ordered one of these Yesterday. Looks like a great phone for the price.

Chad_Fantastics

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

can be bought on official store at www.zuk-store.com/en/ for €280.91 and you get 2 year warranty

Now up to €340 from there with another fiver for shipping, almost pulled the trigger last week but stuck undecided between this and the LeTV le 1 Pro, 301 quid for a EU delivery on oppomart.

It's a more modern (but flawed) chipset and premium build over the ZUK but 64Gb and a straightforward (for a china phone) 2 year warranty and Cyanogen might make the ZUK a better long term prospect?

Harika

IMO, ZUK expanded specifically to EU already while LETV is not yet here. On the other side both companies are really interested in bringing up their brand and are hard working to have their phones supported with updates, what I read was that Letv is pushing a lot of updates.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/10/zuk-z1-will-get-android-marshmallow-update-march.html For EU this update depends mostly on cyanogenmod. I couldn't find anything specific about the LETV and Marshmallow but this might be hidden in Chinese somewhere.

Chad_Fantastics

Yeah, LeTV have been pretty good so far with updates, concern would be what happens as new models drop. Already had issues with Xiaomi vastly delaying updates as new phones came out, sure I can install roms but I'd rather than be out of curiosity then need and that assumes there are roms out there.

Where as Cyanogen are building a brand separate from the OEM so they are bound to drop updates for their sold builds the 18 month at least...

...flip it, should have bought it last week at 280. Hopefully the price bump is due to low stocks and will come down again shortly.

Lucas Hood

Chad_Fantastics wrote: »

Yeah, LeTV have been pretty good so far with updates, concern would be what happens as new models drop. Already had issues with Xiaomi vastly delaying updates as new phones came out, sure I can install roms but I'd rather than be out of curiosity then need and that assumes there are roms out there.

Where as Cyanogen are building a brand separate from the OEM so they are bound to drop updates for their sold builds the 18 month at least...

...flip it, should have bought it last week at 280. Hopefully the price bump is due to low stocks and will come down again shortly.

Still available from France for €295 delivered.

fozz

I ordered the LeTV One Pro from Oppomart on the weekend there so awaiting delivery.
All in was €310 inc delivery and Expedited EU delivery so no VAT etc.

Specs and overall design look excellent for that price.
Check this vid review and comparison with the OPO2 which is a v good phone also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGssvYE_XV4

Will post feelings and findings when I get it if anyone is interested.

Ardennes1944

fozz wrote: »

I ordered the LeTV One Pro from Oppomart on the weekend there so awaiting delivery.
All in was €310 inc delivery and Expedited EU delivery so no VAT etc.

Specs and overall design look excellent for that price.
Check this vid review and comparison with the OPO2 which is a v good phone also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGssvYE_XV4

Will post feelings and findings when I get it if anyone is interested.

I've been debating on whether or not to get one for a week or so now, please post your thoughts asap!

Korvanica

Chad_Fantastics wrote: »

Now up to €340 from there with another fiver for shipping, almost pulled the trigger last week but stuck undecided between this and the LeTV le 1 Pro, 301 quid for a EU delivery on oppomart.

It's a more modern (but flawed) chipset and premium build over the ZUK but 64Gb and a straightforward (for a china phone) 2 year warranty and Cyanogen might make the ZUK a better long term prospect?

I think it was always that. Initially when i went to the site it said 299 or so. Then when in checkout it went upto ~340 because it added tax.

Ardennes1944

http://www.gizchina.com/2015/10/15/zuk-z1-now-selling-in-europe-via-amazon/#comments