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Muscle and Joint creams, gels and sprays

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  • #52
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    I use Arnica massage balm


  • #53
    Dave 101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭Dave 101


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Has anyone suggested snake oil yet?

    Are you trying to say non of these work


  • #54
    Dave 101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭Dave 101


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    The 4% spray is great too . Unfortunately it's prescription only but it definitely works for my achey tendon

    Didn’t know they did this, must get it off my doc next time I’m in


  • #55
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,158 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Dave 101 wrote: »
    Didn’t know they did this, must get it off my doc next time I’m in

    Its expensive at €15 for a small bottle but very effective too


  • #56
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Dave 101 wrote: »
    Are you trying to say non of these work

    I’m not sure they do. Your skin is wonderful at keeping things out, how would these thing penetrate it and get to the muscle?

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • #57
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,657 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Brian? wrote: »
    I’m not sure they do. Your skin is wonderful at keeping things out, how would these thing penetrate it and get to the muscle?

    While I'm not entirely convinced those creams are effective, I'm not sure it's correct to say it can't be because skin is wonderful at keeping things out.

    Didnt BALCO develop 'the cream' to increase test without increasing the T/E ratio.


  • #58
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    While I'm not entirely convinced those creams are effective, I'm not sure it's correct to say it can't be because skin is wonderful at keeping things out.

    Didnt BALCO develop 'the cream' to increase test without increasing the T/E ratio.

    Yeah. I think I’m taking nonsense there. Testosterone, nicotine and opiates can all be delivered by patches.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • #59
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,158 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Tell that to a patient whos pain oozes away with a Fentanyl patch and blessed relief is felt


  • #60
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,657 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Tell that to a patient whos pain oozes away with a Fentanyl patch and blessed relief is felt

    Fentanyl is strong as bejaysus. You could breathe the same air as someone with Fentanyl in their system and pain would dissolve


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  • #61
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,158 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    Fentanyl is strong as bejaysus. You could breathe the same air as someone with Fentanyl in their system and pain would dissolve

    Yep ! But it does enter via the skin so its not impossible to think voltrol could too


  • #62
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,657 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Yep ! But it does enter via the skin so its not impossible to think voltrol could too

    It could but it's an NSAID and how effective it is depends on where it's applied.

    Fentanyl is a whole different ballgame in terms of strength.


  • #63
    Ceepo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Ceepo


    pmrc wrote: »
    The physio just gave me some exercise to do twice a day, which i have been doing.
    He did say that the cold damp weather would make it worse.
    The accident happened in May so apart from the initial pain after a car accident i have been ok
    How ever
    shoulder and arm feel stiff and cold all the time since November/December.
    Its very tiring as i work full time.

    If your physio didnt do any hands on and just gave you a excersies sheet. Then I would be looking for a 2nd opinion.


  • #64
    caviardreams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,616 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    For mild strains and sprains I find the Voltarol extra strength gel very good too, but if it is a longer term / ongoing issue I would recommend getting to the source of the problem with a physio/specialist.


  • #65
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,615 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Brian? wrote: »
    Yeah. I think I’m taking nonsense there. Testosterone, nicotine and opiates can all be delivered by patches.

    To be fair all of those drugs enter your entire system via the skin not a local muscle.


    Mind you, just pointing out a difference. I'm not saying nsaid gels don't work. I'd assume there's some half decent studies done by now


  • #66
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,158 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Mellor wrote: »
    To be fair all of those drugs enter your entire system via the skin not a local muscle.


    Mind you, just pointing out a difference. I'm not saying nsaid gels don't work. I'd assume there's some half decent studies done by now

    I think the proof is in the pudding for me anyway . I have no doubt that Voltrol gel helps my tendon pain


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  • #67
    italodisco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭italodisco


    pudzey101 wrote: »
    thanks guys going to look into voltarol or diclac , cause was running on hard ground for too long :)

    An oral medication is much more effective.

    Ibuprofen is an anti inflammatory, will help greatly with your issue.

    Diclac is so so, works well alongside ibuprofen for injuries to shoulders, neck, lower back.

    Deep heat...... Utter placebo


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