Rosslare Ferry Port Outbound car inspection?

wildefalcon

Why are cars leaving Rosslare for Wales being inspected?

My folks travelled to Pembroke Dock last week and were pulled for inspection by rent-a-cops, CO Security or somesuch, on the way to the ferry.

About a dozen vehicles were selected and searched. They were asked if they had any fuel in canisters and one of the other drivers had to decant the contents of a petrol can into the tank before they would be allowed to leave.

I can't figure it out?

As far as I know the EU still allows you to export stuff for your own consumption, and why would the Irish Authorities care if you export stuff anyway.

Can anyone enlighten me as to why CIE would do this?

elastico

Sneaking people inside your boot and not paying is one reason for inspections.

Petrol is flammable, I suppose they don't want accidental fires.

Terrorists is another. Guns, bombs etc.

wildefalcon

Sure, and all that makes sense, but wouldn't you expect the Gardai to do this?

And to check every car? And why would you want to stop people leaving the country with guns? Wouldn't be a case of better out than in?

And they were very insistent on fuel, diesel or petrol, they didn't seem bothered, or so I'm told.

I mean, what's the point in only doing a dozen cars?

And anyway the cost of a foot passenger is half nothing, so why would you bother?

It really doesn't make sense to me.

kub

If they were using security guards, ie...civilians in uniform, then it could be the ferry company not wanting flammable containers in the boots of cars on the car decks. AFAIK if trucks are carrying chemicals they have to declare it and when possible are parked outside of the actual car deck if the ferry structure allows it.
If it was terrorist related or a state matter it is the Gardai that would have been involved.

wildefalcon

kub wrote: »

If they were using security guards, ie...civilians in uniform, then it could be the ferry company not wanting flammable containers in the boots of cars on the car decks. AFAIK if trucks are carrying chemicals they have to declare it and when possible are parked outside of the actual car deck if the ferry structure allows it.
If it was terrorist related or a state matter it is the Gardai that would have been involved.

But why only a sample of cars? If they were concerned about flammables then they should check ALL vehicles. And stop selling perfume !!

Atlantic Dawn

It's because of the flammable nature of petrol, if it was diesel it would be fine. The last thing they want is a fire at sea.

Tabnabs

wildefalcon wrote: »

But why only a sample of cars? If they were concerned about flammables then they should check ALL vehicles. And stop selling perfume !!

They probably checked cars at random. I'd imagine if they checked every car and delayed the sailing you'd be on here to complain about that too...

Bicycle

These checks are standard.

When we were boarding the ferry for France last June, we were one of about 20 cars directed to one side. The staff involved were very pleasant. It didn't take more than a few minutes.

We've been similarly checked in Calais on the way to France.

The cars are randomly checked because you can't be seen to be targeting certain groups or demographics. And unless you want long check in times like Transatlantic flights and pretty invasive stuff, random checking is the way to go.

They ask about gas because it can explode, it can leak. Its a standard question asked any time we've been travelling by ferry.

My attitude is that any minor inconvenience is worth it to reduce the risk of the bigger inconvenience of an accident at sea or a terrorist attack.

wildefalcon

wildefalcon wrote: »

Why are cars leaving Rosslare for Wales being inspected?

My folks travelled to Pembroke Dock last week and were pulled for inspection by rent-a-cops, CO Security or somesuch, on the way to the ferry.

About a dozen vehicles were selected and searched. They were asked if they had any fuel in canisters and one of the other drivers had to decant the contents of a petrol can into the tank before they would be allowed to leave.

I can't figure it out?

As far as I know the EU still allows you to export stuff for your own consumption, and why would the Irish Authorities care if you export stuff anyway.

Can anyone enlighten me as to why CIE would do this?

Trying to belittle honest workers trying to ensure a safe passage for ALL passengers is a bit childish.
When we take a flight, we have to get rid of any liquids over 100g, take off our coats, scarves and shoes. Do we complain? No. We know it's for the safety of us all.

munchkin_utd

maybe the price of petrol and especially diesel in the UK means theres a significant number of people travelling with canisters of fuel in their boot.

There was a fire on a ferry recently, on a ferry which ran from Rosslare till August last year until getting moved to a different route, which claimed 28 lives (19 were never found and are presumed to have been cremated in the blaze)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Norman_Atlantic_Port_of_Bari_August_2015.jpg/1920px-Norman_Atlantic_Port_of_Bari_August_2015.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Norman_Atlantic

eerily, a similar ship had a fire also this spring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Sorrento_(2003)

maybe the recent spate of fires, including a ship previously based there, has focused the minds of the people in Rosslare Port.

wildefalcon

Deleted User wrote: »

Trying to belittle honest workers trying to ensure a safe passage for ALL passengers is a bit childish.
When we take a flight, we have to get rid of any liquids over 100g, take off our coats, scarves and shoes. Do we complain? No. We know it's for the safety of us all.

Sorry if I offended you and your career, but you have to accept that rent-a-cops (or private independent security staff, if you will) don't have the powers, authority or experience of Gardai, or Customs officers.

And I don't accept that having everyone herded into tight bunches in a confined space makes travel safer. If I were a <snipped> with no pension (opps sorry - my bad; freedom fighter willing to sacrifice his/her life for the cause of a caliphate state) I'd be target the security queues at an airport.

elastico

wildefalcon wrote: »

Sorry if I offended you and your career, but you have to accept that rent-a-cops (or private independent security staff, if you will) don't have the powers, authority or experience of Gardai, or Customs officers.

And I don't accept that having everyone herded into tight bunches in a confined space makes travel safer. If I were a <snipped> with no pension (opps sorry - my bad; freedom fighter willing to sacrifice his/her life for the cause of a caliphate state) I'd be target the security queues at an airport.

That post makes you seem like a very pig ignorant, childish and petty person. The gardai or customs do not own the ferries, its the ferry companies choice what safety and security measures they need to take. (All of which were explained to you, though clearly you are not intelligent enough to understand them)

tricky D

wildefalcon wrote: »

And I don't accept that having everyone herded into tight bunches in a confined space makes travel safer. If I were a <snipped> with no pension (opps sorry - my bad; freedom fighter willing to sacrifice his/her life for the cause of a caliphate state) I'd be target the security queues at an airport.

Not acceptable. Don't post in this thread again