Eir rural FTTH thread

rob808

I made this thread for people on eir rural blue line FTTH please keep here and don't post in Eircom FTTH 66 towns 1 Gb thread about rural FTTH rollout.

degsie

Who's eircom?

rob808

degsie wrote: »

Who's eircom?

Ha ha yea they need to update that threads name.

John mac

According to eir website i will be getting ftth by dec 2015.

Varik

The map shows them going far further out rural towns for their 2017-2020 rollout than I'd have thought they'd have gone.

rob808

Varik wrote: »

The map shows them going far further out rural towns for their 2017-2020 rollout than I'd have thought they'd have gone.

yea me to didn't expect to be on there FTTH roll out since they only said the areas in the annoucement.

long_b

Link to map?

rob808

http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/

ItHurtsWhenIP

John mac wrote: »

According to eir website i will be getting ftth by dec 2015.

Are you sure that isn't FTTC?

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GOLDEN in County Tipperary

eircom's FTTH 2016-2020 rollout programme with speeds up to 1Gb/s includes premises in this exchange area.

Johnboy1951

John mac wrote: »

According to eir website i will be getting ftth by dec 2015.

I find it difficult to believe they will do any of the blue lines this year.

I hope the check is right

KOR101

John mac wrote: »

According to eir website i will be getting ftth by dec 2015.

This is what i get.....



I get FTTC already which is Eir Fibre. The FTTH is Eir Fibre Extreme.

John mac

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

Are you sure that isn't FTTC?

yup this is what i get when i look for that .

John mac

Im Not really expecting to have it this year , it would be a nice surprise though ,

KOR101

John mac wrote: »

yup this is what i get when i look for that .

I don't think you area reading the posts here. Eir Fibre is FTTC. Eir Fibre Extreme is FTTH.

long_b

So a little blue line outside my house means FTTC ?

Johnboy1951

long_b wrote: »

So a little blue line outside my house means FTTC ?

No, it means they intend providing FTTH on that line.

Gonzo

the blue lines are part of the rural FTTH routes (tho quite a few of them run into urban areas). None of them are being started till 2017.

The FTTH that's being slowly rolled out to 66 towns between now and 2017 is an urban scheme where they upgrading people who already mostly have FTTC. These towns will be looked after first before the blue lines get going in 2017.

John mac

KOR101 wrote: »

I don't think you area reading the posts here. Eir Fibre is FTTC. Eir Fibre Extreme is FTTH.

yea i know, thats why i posted the two results , the first being the result for FTTH , the second being FTTC .

eir would want to tell the truth if its going to be 2017 before they start on the blue lines.:)

Johnboy1951

https://www.eir.ie/opencms/export/sites/default/.content/pdf/pricing/Part3.1.pdf

So when FTTH gets here these are the charges apparently.

IIUC the first lot is the broadband charge when it is part of a bundle, and the second lot when there is no bundle involved.

So, essentially the second lot of prices is what I would expect to pay.

By my reckoning the 100Mb/s FTTH charge is roughly equivalent to my present 'unlimited' ADSL connection.

I have some doubts also, as it might appear that it is only the 'extreme' entries are FTTH and the others are FTTC.

Some clarification is called for I think.

For those wondering about the 'unlimited' usage, I believe this is subject to a 'fair usage' cap of 1TB.


I could be misinterpreting the above and if so would welcome a correction.

EDIT:

It does seem that there are only three FTTH prices for standalone broadband .....

€50/€58/€70 for 150/300/1000 Mb/s

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Gonzo

by the time we eventually get FTTH I suspect the prices, caps/fair-usage policy and even speeds will be different. The internet and how we use it/how much is needed to use it will have changed alot by 2020.

Johnboy1951

Gonzo wrote: »

by the time we eventually get FTTH I suspect the prices, caps/fair-usage policy and even speeds will be different. The internet and how we use it/how much is needed to use it will have changed alot by 2020.

Oh don't be so pessimistic

Gonzo

this rural network is gonna take a good 5 years to build!
if you zoom all the way out of the map and see how extensive it is, it really does take in almost every town and village in the country with a good 2-5km radius of fibre spiraling in all directions away from town/village centers along the roads.

Eir have the starting year as 2017 for rural fibre routes, just wish they'd start it alot sooner! Would love to see another update on the map soon with the blue lines taking on different colours to show how soon they will start each section/line of fibre.

bk

Gonzo wrote: »

Eir have the starting year as 2017 for rural fibre routes, just wish they'd start it alot sooner! Would love to see another update on the map soon with the blue lines taking on different colours to show how soon they will start each section/line of fibre.

Well remember that they are still working on the FTTC rollout, it is due to continue until 2016.

I suspect the 2017 date is when they switch their focus completely over to FTTH having finished the FTTC rollout.

I think it is important for them to finish the FTTC rollout first, as it will bring "good enough" broadband to more people much faster then FTTH rollout will.

KOR101

http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/government-shaves-over-200m-off-national-broadband-plan-spend-cut-to-275m-31567889.html

I think this must mean the blue lines will not be in the NBP. But, from the sounds of it, it was to get the bill down, rather than that Eir has made a good business case for those areas.

rob808

KOR101 wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/government-shaves-over-200m-off-national-broadband-plan-spend-cut-to-275m-31567889.html

I think this must mean the blue lines will not be in the NBP. But, from the sounds of it, it was to get the bill down, rather than that Eir has made a good business case for those areas.

I know wonder will eir be interested in NBP now your lucky if your on blue lines now.

bk

rob808 wrote: »

I know wonder will eir be interested in NBP now your lucky if your on blue lines now.

Well I wouldn't see why they wouldn't. With them having so much fiber in place with these blue lines, I'd say they would be quiet happy to take 50% of the government subsidies to extend their ducts further up the roads.

The Ayatolla

Perhaps someone can help me.

The red mark on this is where the blue line ends.

My house is in the red circle.

What are the chances of me getting Fibre broadband? Right now I have nothing, only telephone services by eircom. Broadband via satellite on roof (5meg).

Johnboy1951

The Ayatolla wrote: »

Perhaps someone can help me.

The red mark on this is where the blue line ends.

My house is in the red circle.

What are the chances of me getting Fibre broadband? Right now I have nothing, only telephone services by eircom. Broadband via satellite on roof (5meg).

Pretty good during the NBP roll out ..... but no one knows for sure.

rob808

Well if your on blue lines your getting FTTH of eir and if your not you be getting broadband of NBP but what you get depends on who win your lot.It possible eir my include you but it not starting till 2017 so broadband your on will have to do at moment.

jay93

So if I'm reading this right houses close to the blue lines will get FTTH eventually depending on when eir actually bothers to roll it out to my area.

The Ayatolla

Happy with the broadband I have at the moment, just looking for realistic expectations of when I can expect some kind of an improvement!

Rossi IRL

Blue lines end 100 meters or so past my house, happy days if i get it.

This 2.5mb is taking its toll though, with 5 adults trying to use it at the same time.

Sooner the better

Nyum Nyum

The blue line falls short about 200 - 250 metres from my house and 4 other houses in our lane. Very worried

Tullogher

I am on a blue line route. Recently eir have put a red D on a white background on the poles along the road. Does anyone know what this means?

bk

Nyum Nyum wrote: »

The blue line falls short about 200 - 250 metres from my house and 4 other houses in our lane. Very worried

In such circumstances it is possible they could feed those last 4 houses with G.FAST. It wouldn't quite give you 1Gb/s, but over 100Mb/s should be doable.

grbear

Does anyone actually believe anything that's shown on that map of theirs? If you look at the eir fibre availability map that's up at eir.ie they are claiming that they'll almost double the geographical availability of eir fibre between now and March. I'd like to believe them but I've been living in an area that's been listed as being on the cusp of getting eir fibre for almost two years at this stage and it still hasn't happened. Its a great way of keeping people from looking into alternatives and sadly I fear the same is happening here but this time they are trying to trick the government and not their own customers. Scribbling a few blue lines on a map means nothing really.

Gonzo

grbear wrote: »

Does anyone actually believe anything that's shown on that map of theirs? If you look at the eir fibre availability map that's up at eir.ie they are claiming that they'll almost double the geographical availability of eir fibre between now and March. I'd like to believe them but I've been living in an area that's been listed as being on the cusp of getting eir fibre for almost two years at this stage and it still hasn't happened. Its a great way of keeping people from looking into alternatives and sadly I fear the same is happening here but this time they are trying to trick the government and not their own customers. Scribbling a few blue lines on a map means nothing really.

I believe it will happen. The map your referring to is the E-Fibre map which shows entire exchanges coloured in as 'live'?, that map is total hokey pokey, it's nothing but false hopes only to be greeted with 'efibre is not available at your location', except for the few people who can get it inside of towns and housing estates.

The map on the Openair website which shows the blue lines is highly accurate as it shows exactly where the FTTC Cabinets are located down to the last meter and shows where the FTTH is going to be pulled down to the exact pole locations on the end of my road. That map is very exact and I have full faith in it. It's just a question of timing, how long will it take Eir to do it.

Nichard Dixon

Tullogher wrote: »

I am on a blue line route. Recently eir have put a red D on a white background on the poles along the road. Does anyone know what this means?

They're putting you back on dialup, perhaps?

ED E

Tullogher wrote: »

I am on a blue line route. Recently eir have put a red D on a white background on the poles along the road. Does anyone know what this means?

Are the poles leaning in/out?

Tullogher

ED E wrote: »

Are the poles leaning in/out?

No. They are straight and look in good condition

Tullogher

Nichard Dixon wrote: »

They're putting you back on dialup, perhaps?

Anything is possible. ..

iPhone.

Gonzo wrote: »

shows where the FTTH is going to be pulled down to the exact pole locations on the end of my road. That map is very exact and I have full faith in it. It's just a question of timing, how long will it take Eir to do it.

Just wondering how you are managing to get that level of detail, can't seem to see anything other than the blue line, the FTTC cabinet and Exchange on the map myself?

Johnboy1951

There is a blue line going past my house.
The 'cab' in the ground is about 1 metre into my neighbours site where it joins mine. That is the end of the ducting.

BTW, the ducting traverses my site .... they asked permission many years ago to do this, as the road is on bedrock and it would have been a serious undertaking to try to bury ducting at its side.

Yet the blue line goes past my neighbours house and on to the next neighbour.

There is no duct or cab to that house, so it appears they intend to supply that house overhead, as is presently done with copper.
The copper runs on to other houses some distance down the road.

EDIT:

The blue line also goes to this local farmer's barn ...... not what I expect will happen

MBSnr

^^^
The interesting thing (as previously mentioned by posters) is that this FTTH blue line's map has been very carefully overlaid/drawn. I see that in all the places I have checked - like a small blue line spur out on some roads, the line is shown out to the 1st or 2nd pole. Looking at street view I can see the existing 'domed' splicing/joint box on that pole and/or ducting finishing. This is good. Means they didn't just get a blue crayon involved.

guil

rob808 wrote: »

Well if your on blue lines your getting FTTH of eir and if your not you be getting broadband of NBP but what you get depends on who win your lot.It possible eir my include you but it not starting till 2017 so broadband your on will have to do at moment.

I think you're wrong about the NBP, there's no blue lines near me but the NBP map states I will have service from a commercial operator.

Gonzo

iPhone. wrote: »

Just wondering how you are managing to get that level of detail, can't seem to see anything other than the blue line, the FTTC cabinet and Exchange on the map myself?

when i zoom into my area it shows all the area like roads, houses etc. I live 3 houses from the end of a cul de sac and I can see that the blue line goes as far as the last pole on the road which is beside the last house just before the start of their drive way.
Certain parts of the map may not be clear if Google has not photographed your area yet.

VenomIreland

So my local cabinet shows as Eir Fibre enabled, it's 2KM away straight on the map (yes, I'm aware telephone lines don't work that way). Previously I could only get 1Mb down years ago on copper, what are the chances I'd be able to get something higher if I were to switch back?

Johnboy1951

VenomIreland wrote: »

So my local cabinet shows as Eir Fibre enabled, it's 2KM away straight on the map (yes, I'm aware telephone lines don't work that way). Previously I could only get 1Mb down years ago on copper, what are the chances I'd be able to get something higher if I were to switch back?

Switch back from what?

VenomIreland

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Switch back from what?

Wicklow Broadband, a WISP. Service is good but speeds only at 7 down 2 up.

Johnboy1951

VenomIreland wrote: »

Wicklow Broadband, a WISP. Service is good but speeds only at 7 down 2 up.

If that service is reliable I would stick with it ..... there are a lot of unknows with the copper service ...... state of copper, distance, whether connected to cab or direct to exchange .....