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Saving/Applying for a mortgage 2015/16/17/18/19

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  • Registered Users Posts: 508 ✭✭✭purpleisafruit


    z0oT wrote: »
    I take it you obviously would have to switch over your current account at some point though?
    Nope, though several banks offer you an incentive to do so


  • Registered Users Posts: 602 ✭✭✭zedhead


    z0oT wrote: »
    I take it you obviously would have to switch over your current account at some point though?

    Nope, we were offered a small reduction on the rate if we had one account with the bank of our mortgage that wages were deposited into. My partner is self employed so it would have been my account that got switched but in terms of difference in banking fee's it didn't really make overall sense to do it.


  • Administrators Posts: 53,843 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    D3V!L wrote: »
    Its from a parent, so technically it could be cut off but this would never happen. Yes the payment can be confirmed for 2+ years through monthly bank statements.
    I would be very surprised if this was taken into account. It's basically pocket money, it's not guaranteed. Depending on what you're doing with this money it could actually hinder your application if you are seen to be reliant on money from parents to get by each month.
    jc11 wrote: »
    I aso have a q re guaranteed income.. im a nurse and get extra pay for nights and weekends..have heard different things from people whether its seen as guaranteed extra income.

    Id make up to 400 extra monthly from my basic salary doing out of hours shifts. Would always have to do these shifts but the amount vary monthly. Would the banks consider it as part of my applicantion? Wages not great without it (not really great with it either but better lol)
    Cheers
    They may take some of this into account, it's basically overtime. They will want to see that this income is very regular and then they may take a percentage of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭TheShow


    z0oT wrote: »
    How does it work with getting a mortgage from a bank who your daily current account is not with? You obviously have to change the current account over to them?

    Just curious if anyone else here has done it and how it worked.

    We're with BOI and their variable rates are the highest at the moment. It seems a bit of a no brainer to get the mortgage from a bank with a lower rate to be honest.

    no requirement to switch your bank account to the mortgage lender.
    Some banks offer reduced rates if you switch, but legally they cant make you switch your bank account.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭TheShow


    D3V!L wrote: »
    Its from a parent, so technically it could be cut off but this would never happen. Yes the payment can be confirmed for 2+ years through monthly bank statements.

    unless there was a legal agreement confirming payment for life or whatever then i dont think it would be included.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭TheShow


    jc11 wrote: »
    I aso have a q re guaranteed income.. im a nurse and get extra pay for nights and weekends..have heard different things from people whether its seen as guaranteed extra income.

    Id make up to 400 extra monthly from my basic salary doing out of hours shifts. Would always have to do these shifts but the amount vary monthly. Would the banks consider it as part of my applicantion? Wages not great without it (not really great with it either but better lol)
    Cheers

    they do allow it but probably discounted by up to 50% as it is not guaranteed that you will always have those extra hours.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭D3V!L


    TheShow wrote: »
    unless there was a legal agreement confirming payment for life or whatever then i dont think it would be included.

    I suggested a notarized letter but that didn't cut it. What other legal agreement would be considered ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭TheShow


    D3V!L wrote: »
    I suggested a notarized letter but that didn't cut it. What other legal agreement would be considered ?

    it depends really, if its just pocket money, then I don't think anything would cut it.
    without knowing more about the allowance its difficult to say.

    A trust for example would have a deed of trust which is a legal document.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭D3V!L


    TheShow wrote: »
    it depends really, if its just pocket money, then I don't think anything would cut it.
    without knowing more about the allowance its difficult to say.

    A trust for example would have a deed of trust which is a legal document.

    It's enough to cover half the mortgage on its own. So not a small sum.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    D3V!L wrote: »
    TheShow wrote: »
    it depends really, if its just pocket money, then I don't think anything would cut it.
    without knowing more about the allowance its difficult to say.

    A trust for example would have a deed of trust which is a legal document.

    It's enough to cover half the mortgage on its own. So not a small sum.

    Yes but it's not secured, your parents can cut you off you at any time.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭D3V!L


    GingerLily wrote: »
    Yes but it's not secured, your parents can cut you off you at any time.

    Very true. I may have way around it to get it nice and legal. How long does it take before they recognise self employed earnings ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭TheShow


    D3V!L wrote: »
    Very true. I may have way around it to get it nice and legal. How long does it take before they recognise self employed earnings ?

    You normally need two years accounts and confirmation that all your taxes are up to date.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    D3V!L wrote: »
    It's enough to cover half the mortgage on its own. So not a small sum.

    Sounds like you are eating through the Group A inheritance tax exemption at some rate of knots.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭alwald


    I am thinking to apply for a mortgage and I have 2 questions:
    - What documents do banks ask for when you put a single application for a mortgage while going through a separation (not married and not in a civil partnership either)?
    - Do I have to be in my current job for 6 months or is it sufficient to show continuous employment?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,995 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    alwald wrote: »
    I am thinking to apply for a mortgage and I have 2 questions:
    - What documents do banks ask for when you put a single application for a mortgage while going through a separation (not married and not in a civil partnership either)?

    Proof of income and saving, salary certs, bank statements, payslips, etc.
    alwald wrote: »
    - Do I have to be in my current job for 6 months or is it sufficient to show continuous employment?

    6 Months is required.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭bri007


    We were told 12 months employment in current position today by our broker
    Proof of income and saving, salary certs, bank statements, payslips, etc.



    6 Months is required.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    bri007 wrote: »
    We were told 12 months employment in current position today by our broker

    Got mine with 6 from BOI a few months ago, just needed confirmation I was permanent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 509 ✭✭✭bigronnie9


    jc11 wrote: »
    I aso have a q re guaranteed income.. im a nurse and get extra pay for nights and weekends..have heard different things from people whether its seen as guaranteed extra income.

    Id make up to 400 extra monthly from my basic salary doing out of hours shifts. Would always have to do these shifts but the amount vary monthly. Would the banks consider it as part of my applicantion? Wages not great without it (not really great with it either but better lol)
    Cheers

    My friend and his girlfriend were talking to PTSB two weeks ago and they were very accommodating in taking into account the fact she is nurse and gets more than just her basic salary so might be worth talking to them.
    I have no idea if their rates are competitive at the moment though


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    What are banks allowed deem as income for the 3.5 loan to income condition? Is it purely base salary or can they factor in all guaranteed income?

    I read the legislation but it wasn't clear on what the definition of income is.

    The reason I ask is that I have a couple of guaranteed allowances on top of my base salary. These are a fixed amount and 100% guaranteed each year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,995 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    What are banks allowed deem as income for the 3.5 loan to income condition? Is it purely base salary or can they factor in all guaranteed income?

    I read the legislation but it wasn't clear on what the definition of income is.

    The reason I ask is that I have a couple of guaranteed allowances on top of my base salary. These are a fixed amount and 100% guaranteed each year.

    If they are guaranteed and you can show that, they will be classed as income.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,894 ✭✭✭Rfrip


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    What are banks allowed deem as income for the 3.5 loan to income condition? Is it purely base salary or can they factor in all guaranteed income?

    I read the legislation but it wasn't clear on what the definition of income is.

    The reason I ask is that I have a couple of guaranteed allowances on top of my base salary. These are a fixed amount and 100% guaranteed each year.

    When I started my application with BOI they gave me 3.5 times my salary. But when I gave them my salary cert which had my yearly bonus they increased it. Bonus is not guaranteed and does vary year on year
    Also submitted my application on Tuesday and had mortgage approval on the Friday


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,068 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    If you get AIP from one bank and you go to another bank do you have to go through the whole process again?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,584 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    If you get AIP from one bank and you go to another bank do you have to go through the whole process again?

    Yes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    You'd want to have gotten a bonus for 3 years. They can include it in the income multiple, but not the ability to afford the monthly mortgage payments.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 del23


    Anybody could answer for me,does often bank valuation comes lower than sale agreed price? Or it has to be much over the average prices in the area?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭TheShow


    del23 wrote: »
    Anybody could answer for me,does often bank valuation comes lower than sale agreed price? Or it has to be much over the average prices in the area?

    It’s not uncommon. If it’s formally valued at less than what you’re paying for it, would you not be concerned that you’re paying too much?

    From a LTV perspective the banks will work off LTV or purchase price, whichever is lower.
    So if you’re happy that you’re paying over the odds, then you’ll need to make sure that you have the spare cash too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭heldel00


    Asking on behalf of a sibling - she's thinking of getting new car but is also applying fot mortgage.
    Will the smallish loan reduce the overall amount she can borrow or is ut just the usual 3 times salary regardless of car?


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    heldel00 wrote: »
    Asking on behalf of a sibling - she's thinking of getting new car but is also applying fot mortgage.
    Will the smallish loan reduce the overall amount she can borrow or is ut just the usual 3 times salary regardless of car?
    yes it will, all regular outgoings (loans, creche fees, etc.) will affect the amount the bank are willing to give you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    heldel00 wrote: »
    Asking on behalf of a sibling - she's thinking of getting new car but is also applying fot mortgage.
    Will the smallish loan reduce the overall amount she can borrow or is ut just the usual 3 times salary regardless of car?

    The LTI will not be affected but the affordability calculation will be a affected.

    It depends on her specific finances but even just 200e a month loan could significantly affect your net income, which would bring your mortgage affordability above the threshold.

    If she can avoid it I think she should hold off on buying a car or buy a banger.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    We had our place valued last night and we are going to be selling in the coming months and the agent that valued it said their rate is 1.25%, how does that compare to the market average?


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