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Saving/Applying for a mortgage 2015/16/17/18/19

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,298 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    TM2015 wrote: »
    Don't say that! :eek:

    I suppose I just didn't want to put the flights and hotel on the credit card and thought we could just not put in full savings amount one month and use that money to pay for the holiday.

    I definetly wouldn't put them on the credit card anyway


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭TM2015


    I definetly wouldn't put them on the credit card anyway
    we put things on the cc to get cash back. It’s always paid off within 4 weeks. Surely the bank wouldn’t have a problem with this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,298 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    TM2015 wrote: »
    we put things on the cc to get cash back. It’s always paid off within 4 weeks. Surely the bank wouldn’t have a problem with this?

    If that's the case yeah, you just don't wanna look like you're spending money you don't have on luxuries, but you're example sounds fine!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    TM2015 wrote: »
    We pay rent of nearly 1600. We are above the stressed amount with the 1500 savings on top of it. My question was whether now that we have the deposit, funds for the fees and tax etc, can we just take a break from saving as much. Like, what if we can’t find the house we like for another 12 months.

    As I said we will manage with the savings and can book the holidays too but had hoped that the bank would have no issue with us not putting in the full savings amount for a month or 2.

    I'm in a similar kind of situation, so would also like to know this

    Also, do banks look for Revolut statements?


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    Also, do banks look for Revolut statements?

    Some do, some don't I think it really depends on the advisor you get. If you've a good chunk of regular change going out to Revolut you can be sure it'll be flagged by the underwriters and they'll want statements.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,991 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    I got my AIP from Ulster Bank and they looked for my Revolut statements. So much for hiding my Pornhub subscription.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭scarepanda


    Also, do banks look for Revolut statements?

    We use revolut and N26 for most of our banking, so we needed to submit statements regardless. However they were the easiest for us to submit and we didn't get any questions about either from the bank. We did however need to explain how they worked to the broker we've gone through.


  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭tolow


    Hi all,

    My partner and I are looking at new builds, we contacted a broker and he said we look like we should be eligible for an exception. He told me today though that the banks want an address of a property you wish to purchase before giving AIP when applying for an exception? He is going to apply with KBC as he thinks with them we have best chance of an exception? Are all banks the same for this?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭lir6777


    tolow wrote: »
    Hi all,

    My partner and I are looking at new builds, we contacted a broker and he said we look like we should be eligible for an exception. He told me today though that the banks want an address of a property you wish to purchase before giving AIP when applying for an exception? He is going to apply with KBC as he thinks with them we have best chance of an exception? Are all banks the same for this?

    Thanks

    I don't know about all but definitely some are, BoI for sure. I think it's to make sure people applying for exceptions actually use them- I'm told previously, people were approved but then months later might buy a cheaper house, by which time someone else had lost out on the exception. Kinda fair in that sense but tricky with a new build if you've no specific house in mind yet!


  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭tolow


    lir6777 wrote: »
    I don't know about all but definitely some are, BoI for sure. I think it's to make sure people applying for exceptions actually use them- I'm told previously, people were approved but then months later might buy a cheaper house, by which time someone else had lost out on the exception. Kinda fair in that sense but tricky with a new build if you've no specific house in mind yet!

    Cheers for the reply. That’s the thing, we are unsure of where exactly we want and knowing if we would get the exception would help us know exactly what we can in reality afford! I suppose it’s understandable where the banks are coming from.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭lir6777


    tolow wrote: »
    Cheers for the reply. That’s the thing, we are unsure of where exactly we want and knowing if we would get the exception would help us know exactly what we can in reality afford! I suppose it’s understandable where the banks are coming from.

    I'm pretty certain some banks will apply for an.exception without an address, you could make a few calls yourself and see? Or your broker might be able to get a better guide number for you, I'd keep pushing if it was me and not be made to get selective before you're ready


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,936 ✭✭✭wally79


    tolow wrote: »
    Cheers for the reply. That’s the thing, we are unsure of where exactly we want and knowing if we would get the exception would help us know exactly what we can in reality afford! I suppose it’s understandable where the banks are coming from.

    2 years ago now but we were with AIB and got exception without an identified property


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭FastFullBack


    Selling your old house whilst buying a new house really ain't easy is it in terms of trying to time the various sales so you could simply move from A to B

    - If you buying a 2nd hand home and trying to sell your own you'll either get really lucky and can time them well or have to do a short term let somewhere if you sell first.
    - We just viewed a new development where they will put 'subject to owner selling property' into the contract but they force you to sell your own property well in advance of moving into new property (like potentially up to a year). The new development has long lead times in terms of putting down deposit to handing over keys (potentially up to 18 months)

    Is this a common thing for new developments where the buyer is selling an old property?


  • Registered Users Posts: 748 ✭✭✭Paul_Mc1988


    Selling your old house whilst buying a new house really ain't easy is it in terms of trying to time the various sales so you could simply move from A to B

    - If you buying a 2nd hand home and trying to sell your own you'll either get really lucky and can time them well or have to do a short term let somewhere if you sell first.
    - We just viewed a new development where they will put 'subject to owner selling property' into the contract but they force you to sell your own property well in advance of moving into new property (like potentially up to a year). The new development has long lead times in terms of putting down deposit to handing over keys (potentially up to 18 months)

    Is this a common thing for new developments where the buyer is selling an old property?

    They are just covering themselves. I just bought a second hand property and it took 4 months to go fully through. Three of my friends bought. 2 took six months the other a month.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭FastFullBack


    They are just covering themselves. I just bought a second hand property and it took 4 months to go fully through. Three of my friends bought. 2 took six months the other a month.

    But were you selling as well?


  • Registered Users Posts: 748 ✭✭✭Paul_Mc1988


    But were you selling as well?

    Sorry I should have been clearer. In all them cases we were first time buyers buying second hand properties. So all the people we were buying of were selling and it took them that long


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    TM2015 wrote: »
    We pay rent of nearly 1600. We are above the stressed amount with the 1500 savings on top of it. My question was whether now that we have the deposit, funds for the fees and tax etc, can we just take a break from saving as much. Like, what if we can’t find the house we like for another 12 months.

    As I said we will manage with the savings and can book the holidays too but had hoped that the bank would have no issue with us not putting in the full savings amount for a month or 2.

    If your already paying rent of 1600 and your stressed payment is below that then your already showing that you can handle the repayments.

    So yes, you can save less to cover your holiday, regular savings look good, but the basic requirement is to cover your stressed payments!


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭TM2015


    GingerLily wrote: »
    If your already paying rent of 1600 and your stressed payment is below that then your already showing that you can handle the repayments.

    So yes, you can save less to cover your holiday, regular savings look good, but the basic requirement is to cover your stressed payments!
    Hi, sorry, maybe I didn’t explain it well. The stressed amount would be 3k so 1600 rent plus our monthly savings. The actual mortgage would be around 2k a month. Just thought I’d clarify.

    We will check with our mortgage adviser. Just thought some here had been in a similar situation!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Canyon86


    Hi

    Can somebody tell me if I need the 10% deposit plus legal fees and stamp duty before I go for full mortgage approval ? Or would the 10% alone be sufficient

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭fifth


    Canyon86 wrote: »
    Hi

    Can somebody tell me if I need the 10% deposit plus legal fees and stamp duty before I go for full mortgage approval ? Or would the 10% alone be sufficient

    Thanks

    You need the 10%, but your bank will also want to see evidence of how you are going to pay the legal fees and stamp duty. (Savings, or a gift from parents etc). Also as far as I know, you can't draw down without paying these fees.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭DubJJ


    Canyon86 wrote: »
    Hi

    Can somebody tell me if I need the 10% deposit plus legal fees and stamp duty before I go for full mortgage approval ? Or would the 10% alone be sufficient

    Thanks

    Don’t forget there are plenty of mortgage providers out there who are offering to pay legal fees, and some are offering 3% cashback which may be enough to cover stamp duty as well!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭scarepanda


    Legal fees don't get paid into your bank account for up to 6 weeks afterwards in some cases and any gift, even to tide you over, the gifter needs to get independent legal advice and it will be a clause in the mortgage offer letter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭oleard1987


    scarepanda wrote: »
    Legal fees don't get paid into your bank account for up to 6 weeks afterwards in some cases and any gift, even to tide you over, the gifter needs to get independent legal advice and it will be a clause in the mortgage offer letter.


    We received a gift from Wives father and he had to get a letter signed by a different solicitor from the one we were using stating that he was gifting the money and no legal entitlement to the house


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    TM2015 wrote: »
    Hi, sorry, maybe I didn’t explain it well. The stressed amount would be 3k so 1600 rent plus our monthly savings. The actual mortgage would be around 2k a month. Just thought I’d clarify.

    We will check with our mortgage adviser. Just thought some here had been in a similar situation!

    You can't spend that 1400 savings then, you need to show up can afford the stressed payments every month before drawdown.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 Micko99


    Does anybody know if its possible to change bank offering a mortgage given this scenario.
    I have signed contract with a developer, bank and claimed htb. However I have found out BOI are ending their 2% cashback offer in June 2020. Is it possible to apply for a mortgage with another bank in this scenario? PTSB and kbc have cashback until the end of 2020 so looking to change to one of these.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Techn0


    Micko99 wrote: »
    Does anybody know if its possible to change bank offering a mortgage given this scenario.
    I have signed contract with a developer, bank and claimed htb. However I have found out BOI are ending their 2% cashback offer in June 2020. Is it possible to apply for a mortgage with another bank in this scenario? PTSB and kbc have cashback until the end of 2020 so looking to change to one of these.


    Hi Mick,

    My understanding is nothing is binding up until drawdown. You can still look to other banks if you've yet to draw down.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭scarepanda


    Micko99 wrote: »
    Does anybody know if its possible to change bank offering a mortgage given this scenario.
    I have signed contract with a developer, bank and claimed htb. However I have found out BOI are ending their 2% cashback offer in June 2020. Is it possible to apply for a mortgage with another bank in this scenario? PTSB and kbc have cashback until the end of 2020 so looking to change to one of these.

    Have a look at the T&C's, if you have your loan pack already you could still qualify for it. We were in a sort of similar position before Christmas, before PTSB extended their offer. But because we already had everything organised ready to draw down before the original expiry date, we would have received it even drawing down after that date.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    Micko99 wrote: »
    Does anybody know if its possible to change bank offering a mortgage given this scenario.
    I have signed contract with a developer, bank and claimed htb. However I have found out BOI are ending their 2% cashback offer in June 2020. Is it possible to apply for a mortgage with another bank in this scenario? PTSB and kbc have cashback until the end of 2020 so looking to change to one of these.

    I'd check in with Revenue, the HTB is the real issue, as you submitted your loan pack to them already and claimed!


  • Registered Users Posts: 400 ✭✭fibix


    A random question for a person that needs to get her finances in order. I’m looking for someone who can sit down with me, look at my bank accounts and tell me: this is too much spending here, this loan charging you that, in order to have your house deposit you need to do xyz, banks lending this and you need that. Where can I go for this sort of advice?
    I want my own place more than anything, lucky with decent enough job but just need to get myself sorted.
    Thanks!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭JJJackal


    A good start would be to sit down yourself and look at your ins and outs for a 2 month period

    See if you have any loans and go on line and see are there cheaper repayment options

    Clear any credit card debt


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