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Saving/Applying for a mortgage 2015/16/17/18/19

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭bulmersgal


    Techn0 wrote: »
    Hi bulmersgal,

    Just on the pension piece - I literally went through this myself very recently when speaking to a broker. Was looking for an exemption also and on my first round was denied. Broker said pension (was paying 7% of my gross) was going against my affordability. He recommended that I either:

    1) Get a letter from my employer stating that the pension is voluntary (i.e. I'm paying at my discretion) and I can opt out at any time or;
    2) Reduce my pension payments for the time being to help with affordability

    I ended up going with 2) even though it is the more costly option. I think the banks prefer to just see the extra income on the payslip rather than back and forth with letters etc.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks so much. Did you just cancel it before you went for the mortgage. My employer matches my contribution so I would like to keep it as long as I can and then just stop until mortgage is drawn down.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Techn0


    bulmersgal wrote: »
    Thanks so much. Did you just cancel it before you went for the mortgage. My employer matches my contribution so I would like to keep it as long as I can and then just stop until mortgage is drawn down.

    I'm currently going through the mortgage process myself so opted out this month (with a view to drawing down in the summer). I'm essentially foregoing around 5 months of pension payments. I'm in the same boat, I'm losing out on my matched ER contributions and tax savings of my EE contributions. But it's a short term pain for a long term gain. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭Shelga


    I have about €33k in a combination of savings and gift from parents, which I’m lucky to have. I’m on just under €60k in a very stable company, which I would have thought gave me a decent shot at an exemption.

    However, spoke to 2 banks/brokers in the last week and the chances seem minimal. I don’t really understand how they calculate whether you should get one or not, and I’m a bit disappointed as my friend was easily granted one two years ago, on about €5k less than me at the time.

    This gives me a mortgage of €202k, meaning my total budget is about €235k.

    Ideally I want a 2 bed apartment, in cycling distance of work (<10km). There’s barely anything out there at the moment in this bracket on the northside.

    Just feels like you’re totally screwed if you’re single, as if it’s not ****ty enough already.

    Anyone else fed up of having their lives on hold in their 30s, saving for a shoebox?


  • Registered Users Posts: 221 ✭✭smndly


    Hi, does anyone know if banks take into account additional contract work? I have a salaried job but I often take up the option to do extra evening and weekend shifts as an independent contractor which is well paid. Will the bank look at 3.5 times my salary or 3.5 times my salary plus contracting income?

    TIA


  • Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭lir6777


    Shelga wrote: »
    I have about €33k in a combination of savings and gift from parents, which I’m lucky to have. I’m on just under €60k in a very stable company, which I would have thought gave me a decent shot at an exemption.

    However, spoke to 2 banks/brokers in the last week and the chances seem minimal. I don’t really understand how they calculate whether you should get one or not, and I’m a bit disappointed as my friend was easily granted one two years ago, on about €5k less than me at the time.

    This gives me a mortgage of €202k, meaning my total budget is about €235k.

    Ideally I want a 2 bed apartment, in cycling distance of work (<10km). There’s barely anything out there at the moment in this bracket on the northside.

    Just feels like you’re totally screwed if you’re single, as if it’s not ****ty enough already.

    Anyone else fed up of having their lives on hold in their 30s, saving for a shoebox?

    I hear you Shelga! It's really difficult as a single applicant, the house prices are way out of reach on your own if you want to be anywhere near one of the major cities.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭aqn29swlgbmiu4


    Hey Shelga, I'm in a similiar boat.
    It's so frustrating being penalised for being single.

    I've been renting since I was 16 and have paid over 100 grand in rent to date, it's so frustrating that this isn't taken into account when trying to get a mortgage now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭lir6777


    Hey Shelga, I'm in a similiar boat.
    It's so frustrating being penalised for being single.

    I've been renting since I was 16 and have paid over 100 grand in rent to date, it's so frustrating that this isn't taken into account when trying to get a mortgage now.

    Oh that's a grim calculation :/ and rents only getting higher


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭iba


    Hi,
    I'm looking for a mortgage that I can pay lump sums off when I want (in addition to paying monthly repayments).
    I looked on bonkers.ie at all the different mortgage types available, but couldn't spot one that fits what I want.
    I would be grateful if anyone could point me in the right direction please.
    Thanks.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,087 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    iba wrote: »
    Hi,
    I'm looking for a mortgage that I can pay lump sums off when I want (in addition to paying monthly repayments).
    I looked on bonkers.ie at all the different mortgage types available, but couldn't spot one that fits what I want.
    I would be grateful if anyone could point me in the right direction please.
    Thanks.

    A variable rate means you can pay off as much as you want whenever you want with no penalties. Some fixed rate mortgages (Ulster Bank and KBC are 2 I know of) allow you to pay off a certain amount with no breakage fees, others don't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭Fireball81


    iba wrote: »
    Hi,
    I'm looking for a mortgage that I can pay lump sums off when I want (in addition to paying monthly repayments).
    I looked on bonkers.ie at all the different mortgage types available, but couldn't spot one that fits what I want.
    I would be grateful if anyone could point me in the right direction please.
    Thanks.

    You need a variable rate mortage - most if not all lenders offer them.

    Im most cases, a fixed rate mortgage doesn't allow additional repayments.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,182 ✭✭✭OEP


    If you book an appointment with a mortgage adviser in one of the banks, what will they go through with me? Basically all I want to know is if they'll give me a mortgage at my current level of savings in a few months time - will they do this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,825 ✭✭✭IvoryTower


    OEP wrote: »
    If you book an appointment with a mortgage adviser in one of the banks, what will they go through with me? Basically all I want to know is if they'll give me a mortgage at my current level of savings in a few months time - will they do this?

    Yes, they can do it over the phone either. I rang them 5 months ago, they said you need to save x amount for 6 months and then you're good to go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭tomister


    iba wrote: »
    Hi,
    I'm looking for a mortgage that I can pay lump sums off when I want (in addition to paying monthly repayments).
    I looked on bonkers.ie at all the different mortgage types available, but couldn't spot one that fits what I want.
    I would be grateful if anyone could point me in the right direction please.
    Thanks.
    I know bank of Ireland give the option of splitting the mortgage into 2 whereby one part is a fixed rate and the other is variable. You can then over pay the variable portion as much as you want without penalty


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 Daveone


    I am in the market for a mortgage this year to buy a home with my partner. Thankfully we are in a good financial place for this, with good salaries, savings and no dependents (yet). We are both in our early 30s

    I had until recently been quite steadfast in the idea that I did not want to go for a very long term mortgage (30 years +) as I didn't want that on my plate in my 60s. But are we better off going for a long term mortgage like this, to allow for a lower initial repayment, and then after the initial fixed period accelerate payments to cut the life span?

    If I pay off a 30 year mortgage in 15-20, do I only pay the interest I have accrued?

    Many thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 184 ✭✭tolow


    Hi,

    looking for some opinions on income, I receive a yearly taxable allowance of 3000 euro which is taxable for health benefits. My company would not record this figure on my salary cert though as it is not guaranteed.

    My question is would banks consider this as income? It can be seen on payslips for the last two years f employment. My broker said it needs to be on the cert but wondering if anyone has had similar and had income taken into account that wasn't on a salary cert?


  • Administrators Posts: 53,955 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Daveone wrote: »
    I am in the market for a mortgage this year to buy a home with my partner. Thankfully we are in a good financial place for this, with good salaries, savings and no dependents (yet). We are both in our early 30s

    I had until recently been quite steadfast in the idea that I did not want to go for a very long term mortgage (30 years +) as I didn't want that on my plate in my 60s. But are we better off going for a long term mortgage like this, to allow for a lower initial repayment, and then after the initial fixed period accelerate payments to cut the life span?

    If I pay off a 30 year mortgage in 15-20, do I only pay the interest I have accrued?

    Many thanks

    Yes. Mortgage interest accrues daily, so if you pay a 30 year mortgage off in 15 years you have only paid 15 years worth of interest.

    The advantage to taking a longer term mortgage and overpaying is that you have a safety net to fall back on if you ever need to reduce your payments for whatever reason, and you don't need the approval of the bank to do this.

    The disadvantage is that if you want to overpay you may be limited by the interest rate options available to you. Generally, fixed terms either don't allow overpayments, or only allow overpaying by a certain percent. If you want to overpay by a lot (and paying a mortgage off in half the agreed time is overpaying by a lot) then you may have to stick to variable rates, which are not bad at all right now, but you're more immediately susceptible to rate changes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,581 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    tolow wrote: »
    Hi,

    looking for some opinions on income, I receive a yearly taxable allowance of 3000 euro which is taxable for health benefits. My company would not record this figure on my salary cert though as it is not guaranteed.

    My question is would banks consider this as income? It can be seen on payslips for the last two years f employment. My broker said it needs to be on the cert but wondering if anyone has had similar and had income taken into account that wasn't on a salary cert?

    No income has to be guaranteed for it to be counted. However AIB were willing to take 50% of my non-guaranteed income into account because I got it 3 years in a row.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,106 ✭✭✭✭ Kaia Creamy Rucksack


    awec wrote: »
    Yes. Mortgage interest accrues daily, so if you pay a 30 year mortgage off in 15 years you have only paid 15 years worth of interest.

    The advantage to taking a longer term mortgage and overpaying is that you have a safety net to fall back on if you ever need to reduce your payments for whatever reason, and you don't need the approval of the bank to do this.

    The disadvantage is that if you want to overpay you may be limited by the interest rate options available to you. Generally, fixed terms either don't allow overpayments, or only allow overpaying by a certain percent. If you want to overpay by a lot (and paying a mortgage off in half the agreed time is overpaying by a lot) then you may have to stick to variable rates, which are not bad at all right now, but you're more immediately susceptible to rate changes.

    I know some banks allow you to put part of the mortgage on a fixed rate and part of it on variable, KBC offered this to us definitely and I think BOI might allow it too. So you can pay off whatever you like of the variable portion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 448 ✭✭ebayissues


    Has anyone gotten an exception from kbc/ recently renewed their exception or just drawdown on a mortgage?


  • Registered Users Posts: 184 ✭✭tolow


    ebayissues wrote: »
    Has anyone gotten an exception from kbc/ recently renewed their exception or just drawdown on a mortgage?

    I haven't done either but wondering how long your exception lasts with KBC.

    I've applied through a broker, not for an exception but wondering if we have approval in principle for no exception and then later ask for an exception is it like a new application?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 448 ✭✭ebayissues


    tolow wrote: »
    I haven't done either but wondering how long your exception lasts with KBC.

    I've applied through a broker, not for an exception but wondering if we have approval in principle for no exception and then later ask for an exception is it like a new application?

    I got an AIP which was an exception till the end of this month. Was going to renew it but wondering if anyone has done so.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 60 ✭✭Boozybooze


    Any advice for a single applicant. Ill be applying in three months time. No loans, moved back in with parents 12 months ago and been keeping my account squeaky clean for the last six months.

    House Price: 195000
    Salary: 50K
    Savings when applying: 40K

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭lfen


    Boozybooze wrote: »
    Any advice for a single applicant. Ill be applying in three months time. No loans, moved back in with parents 12 months ago and been keeping my account squeaky clean for the last six months.

    House Price: 195000
    Salary: 50K
    Savings when applying: 40K

    Thanks

    Best advice we got was to prove we could afford the monthly repayment through savings. Like you, we had a lump sum so planned to save €1000 monthly. I called a broker to just run it by them and he said that our repayment would be €1400 based on how much we wanted to borrow, so to actually save €1700 to show we can more than afford it. Great advice I thought.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 60 ✭✭Boozybooze


    lfen wrote: »
    Best advice we got was to prove we could afford the monthly repayment through savings. Like you, we had a lump sum so planned to save €1000 monthly. I called a broker to just run it by them and he said that our repayment would be €1400 based on how much we wanted to borrow, so to actually save €1700 to show we can more than afford it. Great advice I thought.

    Thanks probably should of setting aside the money in a seperate account. With 3100 a month income after tax and a twenty year mortgage at around 950 with 10% deposit hopefully I'll be okay.


  • Registered Users Posts: 184 ✭✭tolow


    ebayissues wrote: »
    I got an AIP which was an exception till the end of this month. Was going to renew it but wondering if anyone has done so.

    To get the exception did you need an address of a property you were planning on bidding on?


  • Registered Users Posts: 448 ✭✭ebayissues


    tolow wrote: »
    To get the exception did you need an address of a property you were planning on bidding on?


    Nope, maybe a rough idea location wise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭lfen


    Boozybooze wrote: »
    Thanks probably should of setting aside the money in a seperate account. With 3100 a month income after tax and a twenty year mortgage at around 950 with 10% deposit hopefully I'll be okay.

    Just sure to show 6 months of saving more than €950 monthly


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Glen_Quagmire


    We bought our house about 8 months ago.

    We originally had an offer from BOI for 5 years fixed at 3% however the house wasnt built in time and this offer expired after 6 months and we had to get a revised offer and the rates with BOI had risen to 3.2% for 5 years fixed.

    We took the offer at 3.2% for 5 years fixed.

    I now see BOI rates have gone back down to 3% again.

    Bad luck with timing on our part..

    Probably a stupid question but I assume the banks dont renegotiate the rates with situations like this and offer the lower rate if it changes shortly after? I know some industries offer customers a refund of the difference if something they buy goes down in a sale in the near future.

    I doubt banks are the same and its probably a stupid question as the rates could have easily gone up rather than down but I said I would ask the question as there maybe something there which I'm not aware of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭Maz2016


    Hi, I am a single man in my mid 30’s just about to apply. I missed 8 weeks of work last year due to an old health injury that pops up every now and then. I continued to save €1000 a month when out of work. Will missing work go against me? Also, I told my employer a few weeks ago I was going to apply for a mortgage. He has given me a substantial pay rise (from 33k to 40k. Will the banks take my new salary into account even though I only have 1 payslip to prove my new salary?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭DelBoy Trotter


    Maz2016 wrote: »
    Hi, I am a single man in my mid 30’s just about to apply. I missed 8 weeks of work last year due to an old health injury that pops up every now and then. I continued to save €1000 a month when out of work. Will missing work go against me? Also, I told my employer a few weeks ago I was going to apply for a mortgage. He has given me a substantial pay rise (from 33k to 40k. Will the banks take my new salary into account even though I only have 1 payslip to prove my new salary?

    You will have to provide the bank with a salary cert from your employer, and as you have one payslip showing that your pay rise has gone through, the bank will take your new salary into account


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