Passport card finally on the way.

JumpShivers

Ireland's passport card is finally on track to bring launched.

About bloody time too. It was always burdensome having to lug a full passport book when only going to mainland Europe.

This can also act as a good and credible form of ID.

If you lose it, it's not like losing a full passport book in terms of getting Garda stamps and restricting further applications of passport.


http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0930/731505-passport-cards/


I, for one, welcome these.

mikeecho

JumpShivers wrote: »

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It was always burdensome having to lug a full passport book when only going to mainland Europe.

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Wow.... 1st world problems

MadDog76

mikeecho wrote: »

Wow.... 1st world problems

Amazingfun

mikeecho wrote: »

Wow.... 1st world problems

:rolleyes:, did you really have to make a comment.

The OP is exactly right, having a card is a much more convenient option.

mikeecho

Amazingfun wrote: »

:rolleyes:, did you really have to make a comment.

The OP is exactly right, having a card is a much more convenient option.

I'm sorry you feel that reading my comment was such a burden on you, and I hope you won't be lugging around a grudge.

..insert smiley face etc...

Neil3030

Is this part of a Europe wide movement, because I for one would not put trust in border police in every country in the EU accepting these...

Buona Fortuna

I can't wait.

Nib

Not sure about all these cards. If you loose your wallet, you're fcuked.

No bank card, driving licence or passport.

frozenfrozen

another ****ing thing I have to renew every few years

Squeeonline

What a terribly written article. Diverges into something completely unrelated about US border policy...

The cards were supposed to be launched by today (end of Sept) as /was/ written here https://www.dfa.ie/passports-citizenship/top-passport-questions/new-passport-card/

They've removed all reference to sept and changed it just to "soon" (tm)

random_guy

Very useful and long overdue.
When you need to give in your passport into an embassy for a visa etc you can still travel on the passport card.

Señor Fancy Pants

Just barcode us and be done with it.

kneemos

Señor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Just barcode us and be done with it.

It would make so much so much easier.

Datallus

kneemos wrote: »

It would make so much so much easier.

And more convenient!

fineso.mom

But I keep the passports on a shelf in the dresser behind a picture frame. They stick up above the frame so I can always see them. The cards will be too small. I'll forget they are there and will have to search everywhere. No no, this won't do at all.

c_man

And here I was thinking I'd heard Irish people moaning about everything, but never heard of our lack of card-sized passport replacements until today. Something new all the time.

MilesMorales1

Handy to use for ID as well.

murpho999

Neil3030 wrote: »

Is this part of a Europe wide movement, because I for one would not put trust in border police in every country in the EU accepting these...

No it's not a Europe wide movement but many EU countries particularly within Schengen use their national identity cards as passports and these already accepted by Irish immigration upon arrival here.

So now that Ireland is issuing it's own sort of card then updates will be sent to EU countries justice departments and then then added to accepted documents so I don't see how you foresee problems with border guards.

What annoys me is that you have to pay extra for it and doesn't come with the passport.

McGrath5

I would like to get one of these ASAP, but with my main passport expiring early next year that means the passport card would expire with the main one, so I'll have to wait to next year.

Fred Swanson

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SeanW

They have these in the USA for people who mainly/only make land border crossings. Don't know if I'd want to have one in addition to my "normal" passport, why have two? If you just expected to go back and forth to the contient for 10 years it would make sense.

BettePorter

Now the bad news ..... how much for the pleasure?

StonyIron

Apparently you have to apply using a smartphone app.

Fred Swanson

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Atlantic Dawn

I presume they will use the same photo as is on the passport, if not the same ID will have 2 different photos and be idiotic.

Duiske

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Not only is it less burdensome than having to lug a full passport around, you also get to travel with a lighter wallet ? Is there no end to the wins with this thing ?

DivingDuck

Will definitely be picking up one of these when they are available.

I find I'm asked for ID non-stop when in the US, something that never happens here. Want to make a $50 card payment? ID. Want to buy a beer? ID. I once was asked for ID once when just trying to make a restaurant booking.

My passport goes in the safe when I travel, as the idea of being abroad and without documentation as well as a wallet if you get pick-pocketed is a nightmare. It would be nice to have an alternative to carry around in those instances.

Having half (or less!) the validity of an actual passport is a bit cheeky of them, though. I don't mind paying extra for it, but it shouldn't need to be renewed twice as often.

kneemos

DivingDuck wrote: »

Will definitely be picking up one of these when they are available.

I find I'm asked for ID non-stop when in the US, something that never happens here. Want to make a $50 card payment? ID. Want to buy a beer? ID. I once was asked for ID once when just trying to make a restaurant booking.

My passport goes in the safe when I travel, as the idea of being abroad and without documentation as well as a wallet if you get pick-pocketed is a nightmare. It would be nice to have an alternative to carry around in those instances.

Having half (or less!) the validity of an actual passport is a bit cheeky of them, though. I don't mind paying extra for it, but it shouldn't need to be renewed twice as often.

Been saying for ages that we need a national ID card.

spiralism

Neil3030 wrote: »

Is this part of a Europe wide movement, because I for one would not put trust in border police in every country in the EU accepting these...

All European countries bar ourselves, the UK (of course we'd be following their lead), Norway (non EU), Iceland (same) and Denmark have national identity cards. We're bringing in one now and Norway in 2017. So that answers your first question.

Also, i've personally seen Identity cards being accepted in other EU countries as travel documents. So yeah, they'll be accepted.

You Mirin?

Saw people using these at border patrol in different EU airports, wondered if it was only the natives of those countries that could use them when reentering their country but these working all around Europe is great.

They won't work outside EU though, no? Because of visa stamps etc.

spiralism

You Mirin? wrote: »

Saw people using these at border patrol in different EU airports, wondered if it was only the natives of those countries that could use them when reentering their country but these working all around Europe is great.

They won't work outside EU though, no? Because of visa stamps etc.

No they won't, for that reason. Asked about them in the Passport office when i saw the sign and was told as much

random_guy

Will it also have the chip function allowing use of the automatic gates?

munchkin_utd

You Mirin? wrote: »

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They won't work outside EU though, no? Because of visa stamps etc.

initially it isnt to be used outside of the EU, but the likes of the US doesnt do stamps in the passport any more (I have heard) so you really only need the paper booklet for countries where you get an actual visa in advance of travelling, or other rare 3rd world countries which really are not part of the itinerary of 95% of the population anyhow.

most journies of Irish people abroad are to the UK, then the continent, and then farther afield.
By rights (just like happens on the continent) the card should be your primary ID document and then for lads that like the nightlife in Thailand they can go get a full passport.

Fr_Dougal

The new cards will only be valid for 5 years.

https://www.dfa.ie/passports-citizenship/top-passport-questions/new-passport-card/

Yamanoto

munchkin_utd wrote: »

initially it isnt to be used outside of the EU, but the likes of the US doesnt do stamps in the passport any more (I have heard)

I still consistently receive a WB (waiver-business) stamp at whichever US port of entry I arrive at.

May be something different at play for those requiring an actual visa for admittance.

Akrasia

Datallus wrote: »

And more convenient!

Nah, we've all been RF ID'd already. You didn't think those 'flu vaccines' were to stop you from getting sick did you?

#oneworldilluminatigovernmentlizardpeople

murpho999

spiralism wrote: »

All European countries bar ourselves, the UK (of course we'd be following their lead), Norway (non EU), Iceland (same) and Denmark have national identity cards. We're bringing in one now and Norway in 2017. So that answers your first question.

Also, i've personally seen Identity cards being accepted in other EU countries as travel documents. So yeah, they'll be accepted.

Sorry but you have got this wrong.

This is not the introduction of identity cards.

Other countries have that, and you are legally obliged to have one and carry it all times.
What Ireland is doing is simply introducing a card form of the passport. It's not compulsory and also you can only have one if you already have a normal passport.

vienne86

This can't come soon enough for me. I'm going to London for the weekend and hate having to bring the passport for the airline boarding.

briany

Ah, finally. Entry to Arstotzka will be much easier now.

petrolcan

spiralism wrote: »

All European countries bar ourselves, the UK (of course we'd be following their lead), Norway (non EU), Iceland (same) and Denmark have national identity cards. We're bringing in one now and Norway in 2017. So that answers your first question.

Also, i've personally seen Identity cards being accepted in other EU countries as travel documents. So yeah, they'll be accepted.

Umm, the UK does not have identity cards.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/identity-cards-and-new-identity-and-passport-service-suppliers

the_syco

Does Israel find forging these to be easier?

323

Another unnecessary waste of money, It is already possible to travel inside the EU without a passport. All that was needed was a EU recognized Driving License/ID.

random_guy wrote: »

Very useful and long overdue.
When you need to give in your passport into an embassy for a visa etc you can still travel on the passport card.

Why not get a second passport?

ohnonotgmail

petrolcan wrote: »

Umm, the UK does not have identity cards.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/identity-cards-and-new-identity-and-passport-service-suppliers

You have just repeated what he said.

All European countries bar ourselves, the UK (of course we'd be following their lead), Norway (non EU), Iceland (same) and Denmark have national identity cards

ohnonotgmail

323 wrote: »

Another unnecessary waste of money, It is already possible to travel inside the EU without a passport. All that was needed was a EU recognized Driving License/ID.



Why not get a second passport?

because a second passport is more expensive and less convenient to carry than a credit card sized passport card.

whisky_galore

Like Eircode, another useless (to me) piece of govt sponsored tat I will not be partaking of.

murpho999

whisky_galore wrote: »

Like Eircode, another useless (to me) piece of govt sponsored tat I will not be partaking of.

What is the point of your post?

The passport card is not sponsored, it's an optional extra to your passport that you have to pay for.

So how you can compare it to post codes is beyond me. Governments aren't always bad you know.

petrolcan

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

You have just repeated what he said.

Move along, nothing to see here....

arch_stanton

323 wrote: »

Another unnecessary waste of money, It is already possible to travel inside the EU without a passport. All that was needed was a EU recognized Driving License/ID

That's incorrect. To get from a non-Schengen country, eg. Ireland to a Schengen country you have to go through passport control with a passport or recognised European National ID card. Once your in the Schengen area there are no further checks so you can move from one country to another.

This card is going to be very useful for me. In Spain all the locals have an ID card, the NIE, and you get asked for it all the time but we've had no equivalent apart from the full passport.

murpho999

323 wrote: »

Another unnecessary waste of money, It is already possible to travel inside the EU without a passport. All that was needed was a EU recognized Driving License/ID.



Why not get a second passport?

You won't get on a plane in Dublin to the continent with a driving licence.
Ireland is not part of Schengen so a passport is required.

MillField

Nib wrote: »

Not sure about all these cards. If you loose your wallet, you're fcuked.

No bank card, driving licence or passport.

That's the issue I have with these changes.

ohnonotgmail

petrolcan wrote: »

Move along, nothing to see here....

you need to improve your reading comprehension. when a poster says that all euro countries BAR the UK and some others have national identity cards and then you try to correct them by saying that the UK dont have identity cards then its you that looks foolish. Admit you made a mistake and take it on the chin like a man.