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An Post strike looming

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    #32
    uck51js9zml2yt
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    Strike is over for now


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    #33
    delahuntv
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    readytosnap wrote: »
    Because they are refusing to let the regular sorters sort the mail manually, that would of gone through the machines. An Post want this strike so they can use it as a case for future redundancies, mark my words.

    No, it was the cwu who told their members in an post not to do any additional manual sorting and not to work any of the sorting machines being managed by management of io systems.

    Eg the cwu union was using other workers as pawns in their duspute. Disgusting, but that's how underhand unions can be sometimes.


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    #34
    carltonleon
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    delahuntv wrote: »
    No, it was the cwu who told their members in an post not to do any additional manual sorting and not to work any of the sorting machines being managed by management of io systems.

    Eg the cwu union was using other workers as pawns in their duspute. Disgusting, but that's how underhand unions can be sometimes.

    Incorrect. It was An Post management who did not allow a manual sort to happen and who closed the post down. CWU and workers were quite happy to manually sort.


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    #35
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    I wonder if there is a non performance penalty Claus in the IO/AP contract ?


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    #36
    Impetus
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    Colby Full Vinyl wrote: »
    I wonder if there is a non performance penalty Claus in the IO/AP contract ?

    There is almost certainly an SLA (service level agreement). And that would imply a redress clause in the event of service levels not being met.


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    delahuntv
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    carltonleon wrote: »
    Incorrect. It was An Post management who did not allow a manual sort to happen and who closed the post down. CWU and workers were quite happy to manually sort.

    CWU issued a written notice on Friday afternoon to all of its members in An Post NOT to work any machines that are being maintained by management of IO systems and not to manually sort any mail that would normally be handled by the auto sort systems.


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    Impetus
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    carltonleon wrote: »
    Incorrect. It was An Post management who did not allow a manual sort to happen and who closed the post down. CWU and workers were quite happy to manually sort.

    While manual sorting is better than a total switch off of the service, the system has been totally centralised over the past 20+ years, focusing on four sorting plants in Athlone, Cork, Dublin, and Portlaoise. It would be a massive task - but one would have a similar issue in the event of EMP damage - when post would be the only form of communication - to the extent that the packets could be moved. It will push large shippers of mail and parcels to look again at alternatives. Given the low population density in many parts of the country, and the lack of a proper addressing system for every building (the poorly designed, re-invent the wheel, non-standard "Eircode" is not the answer to this - in fact the contrary given the way that the code has been randomized to make it totally non-human friendly), the economies of scale do not exist to support multiple postal service providers.

    It seems to me that the board of An Post has been negligent in the way it has allowed IO to monopolise their sorting network, and harvest the monopoly, and the entire board should consider its position. Every system / company needs a plan B (and perhaps C).


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    carltonleon
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    delahuntv wrote: »
    CWU issued a written notice on Friday afternoon to all of its members in An Post NOT to work any machines that are being maintained by management of IO systems and not to manually sort any mail that would normally be handled by the auto sort systems.

    All other mail could have been manually sorted including Passport Express, Reg and Express items. Incoming International Mail could also have been manually sorted. An Post management made a decision that these would not be manually sorted and issued the 'Do not post Anything' which basically closed it all down.


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    dave ireland
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    From what I take from the 6 oclock news ,its not over yet, their just talking.

    They have been doing that for over two years with no results, I hope Santa Claus is geared up to received emails.


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    #41
    delahuntv
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    Impetus wrote: »

    It seems to me that the board of An Post has been negligent in the way it has allowed IO to monopolise their sorting network, and harvest the monopoly, and the entire board should consider its position. Every system / company needs a plan B (and perhaps C).
    Plan B was management of io systems to do the work and keep it running. CWU made sure that plan B or any plan c,d or e was not going to work by telling ALL cwu members not to co-operate with any non union back up plan and not to operate or work on any post that used any machinery being maintained by management of io systems.

    Only after cwu realised the anger of their own nom io systems members did they very quickly agree to talk and call off their badly planned gamble.


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