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The list is the top 100 games ever, not the top 100 games that have aged the best. Goldeneye is one of the best games ever, regardless of how it plays today. Anyone that thinks otherwise shouldn't be playing videogames
If you look at it through Rose tinted glasses with lashing of nostalgia jam. Look at it critically and it just doesn't hold up unlike something timeless like Tetris.
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Maximus Alexander wrote: »I thought Dark Souls was absolute crap.
I'm sure it was really, really good at doing whatever it was supposed to do. But I don't like whatever it was supposed to do, at all.
And that's why other people's lists of Top X Best Things Ever are nothing to get wound up about - they're meaningless. Each of us would make a different one. The only time they can really be of use is if you find a list that you broadly agree with, notice some things on it you've never tried, and thus have a pretty good idea that you have some new things to try that you might like.
The problem is that Edge is a bunch of critics that are seen as many as highly regarded in their field (and a bunch of spoofers by others). Having a group like that means absolute fever dream delusions like your opinion of Dark Souls get diluted :P on the other hand even if it's edge I'm dumbfounded by how poor the list is and how it's filled to the brim with flash in the pan new games , no surprises and a complete disregard for anything but the most populist classic games. It's baffling.
There's even some games in there that are just plain bad. R type final's inclusion is kind of indicative that none of the writers have any knowledge of shmups so just stuck one in. It's just a bad game with boring levels and one stage is played at sub 5 fps (I'm not exaggerating, stage 3 is excruciating) and is on the list at the expense of greats like radiant Silvergun, battle garegga or even R Type 1, 2, 3, Leo and Delta.
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I think it's fair enough in some cases. GTA and MGS are all very similar while Mario games are wildly different from each other and some of the earlier Zelda games are totally different from what the series has become. All those mario games are very different experiences from each other and I'd say the same about the Zelda games as well other than Wind Waker which is way too similar to Ocarina of Time and the other later zelda games that use the same Ocarina formula. It's a bit of a silly rule that they should have played loosely with, basically it's like ruling out Resi 2 because Resi 4 is on the list but both are very different games. But thems the rules.
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I don't exactly agree with the list at all, but I'm baffled by Dark Souls being at number 1.
It was a good game, but frustrating as hell with clunky controls and a plot right out of a tumblr account. Sure it gave people some laughs watching others try to beat it, Drunk Souls is a good one for a giggle, but best game ever? Not a chance.
I'd be of the opinion that it's a good shout for best game of all time, if some told me they thought it was it's a decision I'd respect. I didn't find the controls clunky at all either. Sure they had a lot of weigth behind each action but that was the point and you could eleviate it with equipment choice. I'd go so far as to say it's the best combat system of any action RPG I've played until Bloodborne came along.
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I don't exactly agree with the list at all, but I'm baffled by Dark Souls being at number 1.
It was a good game, but frustrating as hell with clunky controls and a plot right out of a tumblr account. Sure it gave people some laughs watching others try to beat it, Drunk Souls is a good one for a giggle, but best game ever? Not a chance.
What's always worth stressing is that it isn't the plot that necessarily makes Dark Souls' (along with its From brethren) storytelling so memorable - it's the very telling. Yes, the actual literal events are convoluted fantasy-hokum in quite a few ways, but the hokum becomes interesting due to the brave minimalism with which it is presented. Hands down, From are the best environmental storytellers about, especially with Miyazaki at the helm. Locations are loaded with mysteries, secrets and quiet little revelations (and the occasional big ones). Enemies, NPCs and bosses especially are deeply embedded in the lore, giving your actions meaning and substance. Ditto even your inventory, where the mere item descriptions further serve to help unravel and deepen the cryptic narrative. The gameplay mechanics, too, exist in impressive harmony with the world and story. That the game only has a handful of cutscenes, and fewer still with much in the way of substantive dialogue or exposition, is a very impressive feat, and rewards players willing to figure it out on their own (and, admittedly, some assistance from that wonderful online Souls community).
There are games with more 'meaning' behind their stories, that say something more challenging and intriguing. And yes, there are game plots out there that, in terms of offering an A->B story, are arguably more interesting than Dark Souls have. What few if any other games have is the articulate, experimental storytelling Dark Souls has, and when you hear the games' storytelling praised it's reliably for that instead of the actual relationships between Gwyn, the Lordvessel and the Kiln of the First Flame
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