Chelsea Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016

Harry Palmr

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Would you take Rafa back?

.....walks away whistling!

fozz10

be grand. its only one season.

idiots, anyone wanting him sacked. having a bad season, but well get over it. its not the end of the world

Unearthly

Few rumblings that he is refusing to speak to media

Garzorico

fozz10 wrote: »

be grand. its only one season.

idiots, anyone wanting him sacked. having a bad season, but well get over it. its not the end of the world

It's the not qualifying for the CL is the issue. That's a no-no. If he doesn't qualify and it increasingly looks that way then he deserves to go.

Lukker-

Unearthly wrote: »

Few rumblings that he is refusing to speak to media

Him or the backroom staff won't be talking to the media. It's probably for the best, not from a neutral point of few obviously.

They should send Costa without a translator.

Bret Hart

Unearthly wrote: »

Few rumblings that he is refusing to speak to media

I was looking forward to it.

Garzorico

Take a look at Jose after we equalised. His heart is not in it - he looks like doesn't give a toss.

Sooner he's gone and we start again the better.

BRog as 'the interim one' all the way.

Nalz

Unearthly wrote: »

Few rumblings that he is refusing to speak to media

No post match interview or conference?

Lukker-

fozz10 wrote: »

be grand. its only one season.

idiots, anyone wanting him sacked. having a bad season, but well get over it. its not the end of the world

Not getting Champions League with this group of players should be a sackable offence, I don't care who's in charge.

Unearthly

Nalz wrote: »

No post match interview or conference?

nope, straight onto team bus

brevity

Mars Bar wrote: »

I feel like we're witnessing a very public mental breakdown with Mourinho.

Very true and its not a laughing matter IMO. The man needs a break from it all.

deaddonkey15

Lukker- wrote: »

Not getting Champions League with this group of players should be a sackable offence, I don't care who's in charge.

That group of players isn't actually that good.

Bret Hart

Will Jose get a fine for not talking to the media ?

Panthro

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

That group of players isn't actually that good.

Looks at last seasons winners...


Disagrees with you

super_furry

Is he trying to get sacked? He's totally gone off the rails in the last two months.

Lukker-

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

That group of players isn't actually that good.

Only City have a squad that can match Chelsea's.

Charlie19

Roberto Di Matteo is free, I think he left whatever German club he was at during the summer.

He worked out well in the past.

RobertKK

Can't see Chelsea getting top 4 with their current league form, and I can't see them winning the CL to get back into the CL next year.
Maybe 3rd in the group stage of the CL and try the Europa route?

dfx-

Lukker- wrote: »

I'm starting to think the sooner we axe him the sooner we can start rebuilding. He's brought too much negativity to the club this year and it's completely overshadowed everything. He's a magnet for drama and I think he's shown his worst traits this season. He wants to be SAF mk2 but tbh, I don't think that is possible anymore. Players have too much power and the media won't let him away with anything. He needs to seriously mellow out if he ever wants to stay at a club for more then 3 years because his management is too fractious. I think for him to succeed he'd need to overhaul the squad again and with the quality that is there, I don't think that is necessary.

what do you regard as rebuilding though? Abramovich through Vilas Boas tried, Benitez tried, Mourinho said he would..

Mr.H

brevity wrote: »

Very true and its not a laughing matter IMO. The man needs a break from it all.

The "man" doesn't deserve sympathy from anyone. He brought all this on himself with his antics over the years.

You act like a d8ck and you will be treated like one

niallo27

Lukker- wrote: »

Only City have a squad that can match Chelsea's.

First 11 yes but is the squad that good.

deaddonkey15

Panthro wrote: »

Looks at last seasons winners...


Disagrees with you

Limped over the line, helped in no small part by very good fortune on the injury front. Paying for it this season, players are wrecked and unmotivated. Bench is weak.

Lukker- wrote: »

Only City have a squad that can match Chelsea's.

United and Arsenal too.

MaroonAndGreen

So called Chelsea "fans" here and everywhere claiming they want Jose out, shame on ye.

I understand we've had a horrid start but that's an overreaction to say he should be sacked

jaykay74

I hope he hangs on in there for a bit. Great craic week on week. It'll be interesting when over time the stories come out of when exactly he lost the dressing room.

rottie 11

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

So called Chelsea "fans" here and everywhere claiming they want Jose out, shame on ye.

I understand we've had a horrid start but that's an overreaction to say he should be sacked

I don't want him sacked but I wouldn't be that bothered if he is

duploelabs

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Limped over the line,

by 8 points, yep definitely limped....

deaddonkey15

duploelabs wrote: »

by 8 points, yep definitely limped....

Ye dropped off significantly second half of last season, the decline is continuing this season. City, United and Arsenal are all stronger than last season too. Chelsea didn't adequately strengthen during the summer.

super_furry

There's definitely something in this third season syndrome with Mourinho, it's too much of a coincidence now.

Dozen Wicked Words

super_furry wrote: »

There's definitely something in this third season syndrome with Mourinho, it's too much of a coincidence now.

I think he gets bored.

super_furry

Either that or his methods in the club are so abrasive that people just get fed up and start pushing back at him. I mean this really all started with the Dr Eva nonsense.

Dozen Wicked Words

super_furry wrote: »

Either that or his methods in the club are so abrasive that people just get fed up and start pushing back at him. I mean this really all started with the Dr Eva nonsense.

But does all the "Jose being Jose" stuff increase because he isn't enjoying it at a club anymore. He went from "happy" to OK to clearly not happy at all. That Waterford whispers thing with Mourinho out mind gaming Mourinho has a ring of truth.

J. Marston

brevity wrote: »

Very true and its not a laughing matter IMO. The man needs a break from it all.

It is though.

Hotblack Desiato

The only person gaining from this is David Moyes.

No longer the worst defence of a PL title ever.

tombliboo83

I'd never wish for Jose to be sacked or leave. I feel the blame has to be placed at Romans feet, our transfer dealings in the summer stink. Players foisted on the manager and obvious needed targets missed. The dressing room is being lost and the only way to truly back the manager is to spend in January and send a message to the players who aren't bothered anymore.

mikeym

Hes getting sacked in the morning.

Lukker-

dfx- wrote: »

what do you regard as rebuilding though? Abramovich through Vilas Boas tried, Benitez tried, Mourinho said he would..

And he has. He has laid an excellent foundation. I meant more a rebuilding of confidence. I think the squad itself is a couple of players away from challenging for the champions league.

McDave

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

The only person gaining from this is David Moyes.

No longer the worst defence of a PL title ever.

Pointless analogy. Moyes didn't win a title, so he wasn't defending anything.

RobertKK

McDave wrote: »

Pointless analogy. Moyes didn't win a title, so he wasn't defending anything.

Moyes had the team that won the Premier League, and was expected to compete for the title. He was the manager who was defending the title that season.

StringerBell

Probably the greatest impact/short term manager of all time though?

McDave

RobertKK wrote: »

Moyes had the team that won the Premier League, and was expected to compete for the title. He was the manager who was defending the title that season.

Read my lips.

Moyes did nothing. Jose took a squad, knocked it back into shape, and with a couple of astute signings won a title.

StringerBell

But surely if Moyes inheriting the Champions has been used as a stick to beat him then it is ok to use it in that regard also?

RobertKK

McDave wrote: »

Read my lips.

Moyes did nothing. Jose took a squad, knocked it back into shape, and with a couple of astute signings won a title.

Moyes put a title winning team down to 7th place, he did more than enough :P

McDave

RobertKK wrote: »

Moyes put a title winning team down to 7th place, he did more than enough :P

You need some perspective.

The only person gaining from this is David Moyes.

Really? Given a choice between Moyes at Utd and Mou at CFC, which position would any other manager choose to be in? Jose, of course.

So, precisely how in this scenario is Moyes a winner?

!!!

StringerBell

Gaining is not a winner though. Pretty important point you know, Moyes record at United as a defending champion squad is looking less **** due to the incredible ****eness of Chelsea's start to the season, there are no winners here.

Also, I know the club is in the ****ter at the moment but there is no point in pretending fans don't take the piss out of each other in times like these all in the name of "bantz"

Keep a sense of humour about things, it is after all only the internet.

Rayne Wooney

I bet 4 months ago you all would have laughed hysterically at the mere hint of comparing the great Jose with David fecking Moyes

Football is crazy

I think it's past the point of no return for Jose now, and he only has himself to blame really.

cowboyBuilder

First of , I don't want Jose to leave, I think he is the only man for the job, no one else will want it , and if they do - it will be to get fired after a season for the $$$$ ... so we need to stick with Jose.

Problem is, if it's true what Graeme Le Saux was saying about a number of players having a nickname for Jose like "the special cúnt" or something similar - and is catching on .... then it's over ... hate to say it , but there is no way back from that kind of disrespect from the dressing room.

I think this is the beginning of a freefall drop for Chelsea, the club will probably cease to exist in 5-10 years time.

MaroonAndGreen

cowboyBuilder wrote:

I think this is the beginning of a freefall drop for Chelsea, the club will probably cease to exist in 5-10 years time.

Jesus

cowboyBuilder

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

Jesus

Bookmark the post, then in 5 years time, print it , frame it, hang it up in your kitchen !!!

BMMachine

will Roman want to keep investing in the club though? Hes spent a truckload already and god knows how much else on wages. I really really hope that Chelsea is proven not to work. For the fans it would be awful and I get that but having a billionaire just come in and spend a load of money (in Abramovich's case it was a way to escape Putin and the various crime syndicates he was involved with) is just reckless. Football shouldn't be built on the back of corruption and crime and a horrible feudal society (hello Sheik Mansour).

dfx-

Lukker- wrote: »

And he has. He has laid an excellent foundation. I meant more a rebuilding of confidence. I think the squad itself is a couple of players away from challenging for the champions league.

Really? I think the greatest failing of this squad is that everything has been engineered towards Mourinho making it work in his own inimitable way.

If he goes I don't see anyone getting much else out of a Mourinho team given the age profile.