Chelsea Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016

grumpymunster

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Yep but that would mean us going out in the group I say we win the Champions league instead .

We should have won the game last night the better team but found Butland in terrific form after that I have faith we should have enough to beat Liverpool at home I would have more worry if we fail to gain all 3 points. I'd actually like to see more of Traore I'm not saying he was great by any means he wasn't exactly but he showed glimmers of pace and creativity that has been lacking lately.

These things happen when West Ham beat City they led a charmed life, as was remarked earlier there is a gradual improvement of performance so lets hope it springs into flower on Saturday.

Another CL would be lovely, we couldn't be that lucky ...... could we

GavRedKing

I'd love if we played two natural FBs against Pool but it wont happen.

I reckon the team will be more or less the same as last night, with Cesc, Matic and maybe Remy coming in.

grumpymunster

If a Chelsea player did this the outcry would be horrendous with certain trial by camera

http://talksport.com/football/video-ouch-charlie-adams-painful-tackle-willian-151028172237?

He even looks down before he plants his foot to make sure of its landing, yet when Costa stood on a Liverpool player with eyes firmly on the ball we had Costa crimes everywhere - is it any wonder TSHO blows up now and again.

greendom

grumpymunster wrote: »

If a Chelsea player did this the outcry would be horrendous with certain trial by camera

http://talksport.com/football/video-ouch-charlie-adams-painful-tackle-willian-151028172237?

He even looks down before he plants his foot to make sure of its landing, yet when Costa stood on a Liverpool player with eyes firmly on the ball we had Costa crimes everywhere - is it any wonder TSHO blows up now and again.

Charlie Adam seems to get away with murder week in, week out. Have no idea why?

Dozen Wicked Words

greendom wrote: »

Charlie Adam seems to get away with murder week in, week out. Have no idea why?

He's a "gritty Brit", same as Lee Cattermole.

grumpymunster

greendom wrote: »

Charlie Adam seems to get away with murder week in, week out. Have no idea why?

He really does it shows yet again how inept the FA really are. Regardless of who you support they should be consistent this and the Matic "tackle" seem to be OK but the Costa incident against Arsenal is deemed violent - how do they manage to square that circle? I am sure there are other examples but being a Chelsea supporter I tend to focus on them.

Jose is in so much muck at the minute I do hope he brings this up at his press conference on Friday (assuming he turns up of course ) at it will actually add some credence to his argument, you can be certain it will be used at his appeal though.

Wrongway1985

Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »

He's a "gritty Brit", same as Lee Cattermole.

Ya according to certain media platforms Cattermole (etc) is a victim of getting stuck in when he is cautioned for fouls, Costa is a perpetrator on the otherhand and possibly the filthiest player who ever played the game

I thought it was a disgrace that MOTD2 the weekend when after discussing the news that day on Sherwood being sacked during the show, their Montage at the end of the show; showing mostly disappointing times of Sherwood at Villa then also included Mourinho and the troubles Chelsea are going through.

grumpymunster

Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »

He's a "gritty Brit", same as Lee Cattermole.

That is a very good point just sent a tweet to @SkyFootball asking that very question

GavRedKing

You just have to look at Adam pole axing Cesc with a forearm that broke his nose and required surgery to see hes a dirty player.

Hes one of the only players I actively despise.

gosplan

GavRedKing wrote: »

You just have to look at Adam pole axing Cesc with a forearm that broke his nose and required surgery to see hes a dirty player.

Hes one of the only players I actively despise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxpBBQy-pX4

GavRedKing

Jose has played 5 penalty shoot outs with Chelsea, in competitive games and lost them all.

thankfully he wasnt around for Munich 2012. :pac:

We've also won only 8 of our 20 penalty shootouts since they were introduced.

GavRedKing

gosplan wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxpBBQy-pX4

The other angle is even worse.

I remember him acting the maggot vs Ireland too recently. :mad:

gosplan

grumpymunster wrote: »

That is a very good point just sent a tweet to @SkyFootball asking that very question

I like the way the previous article refers to Willian finding out how 'tough in the tackle' Adam is.

That's 'tough', not late or dangerous, but 'tough'.

Stoke get away with murder because everyone expects them to kick lumps out of people at home. So try get let away with more because that's just part of Stoke games.

I've no idea how a 'tough' tackle results in you standing on someone's thigh.

GavRedKing

gosplan wrote: »

I like the way the previous article refers to Willian finding out how 'tough in the tackle' Adam is.

That's 'tough', not late or dangerous, but 'tough'.

Stoke get away with murder because everyone expects them to kick lumps out of people at home. So try get let away with more because that's just part of Stoke games.

Stoke have turned the corner, a small bit in their aproach but theres still an element of play the man first and the football will follow for them.

It was evident last night when guys like Bardsley, Shawcross, Diouf and Adam were throwing it around all game.

Walters, another guy that usually enjoys the rough and tumble was actually pretty quiet, until he turned into Tony Yeaboah.

Royal Legend

greendom wrote: »

Charlie Adam seems to get away with murder week in, week out. Have no idea why?

He's English, if he was Jonny Foreigner he would be hung out to dry, I am sure if Jose was not already in so much trouble, that he would be highlighting this.

Andersonisgod

Royal Legend wrote: »

He's English, if he was Jonny Foreigner he would be hung out to dry, I am sure if Jose was not already in so much trouble, that he would be highlighting this.

Pretty sure he's Scottish.

RichT

greendom wrote: »

Charlie Adam seems to get away with murder week in, week out. Have no idea why?

Royal Legend wrote: »

He's English, if he was Jonny Foreigner he would be hung out to dry, I am sure if Jose was not already in so much trouble, that he would be highlighting this.

He's Scottish!! :mad:

phobia2011

If mls is over, then drogba is who we need back, could see him loaned in jan, a huge charachter, who would no doubt boost the troops.

grumpymunster

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Pretty sure he's Scottish.

Ah it's a bit like Oz and Kiwis they are all the same really

You know Colonies and all that





Runs for cover

Hopes there are no Oz or Kiwis around

Still looking for cover

grumpymunster

Royal Legend wrote: »

He's English, if he was Jonny Foreigner he would be hung out to dry, I am sure if Jose was not already in so much trouble, that he would be highlighting this.

Let's sub British for English ha ha.

I would be shocked if this is not introduced in his appeal, and if the appeal is unsuccessful it will no doubt be highlighted very quickly.

Adams could be a cause for good though.

He managed to unite a fair section of boards and that is no easy feat :-/

grumpymunster

phobia2011 wrote: »

If mls is over, then drogba is who we need back, could see him loaned in jan, a huge charachter, who would no doubt boost the troops.

If he is doing his coaching badges that would be great call, but not as a player me thinks

Royal Legend

grumpymunster wrote: »

Let's sub British for English ha ha.

I would be shocked if this is not introduced in his appeal, and if the appeal is unsuccessful it will no doubt be highlighted very quickly.

Adams could be a cause for good though.

He managed to unite a fair section of boards and that is no easy feat :-/

you might not agree but the FA are so up their own arses its unreal, different rules for British players and coaches for the most part, Jose knows this, so does Costa, Suarez et al.
The Suarez one still gets me, accused by a known liar that he was racically abused, no one heard it, but he is still suspended, same accuser involved in a similar incident after a game at stamford bridge, found to be lying.
apologies chelsea fans, john terry recorded racially abusing a player and gets a lenient sentence.
Jose is right, different rules for different players and coaches, and these knuts in the FA, are all giving out about corruption in FIFA, when the knuts are just as morally corrupt.

As for Adams, how that fkucker does not get long bans for his dangerous tackling is baffling

SureYWouldntYa

phobia2011 wrote: »

If mls is over, then drogba is who we need back, could see him loaned in jan, a huge charachter, who would no doubt boost the troops.

Don't agree with him coming back for a 3rd run. We need new leaders to stand up, going back to some old ones won't help long term

hots

Anything to be said for recalling Kalas?

grumpymunster

hots wrote: »

Anything to be said for recalling Kalas?

Lots to be said, we can send Papy the other way by means of recompense

grumpymunster

London Underground has found a new way to stop industrial unrest. They are to have Wenger to voice tube announcements - so how does this stop industrial unrest I hear you ask.

Well we all know Arsenal have no strikers, boom boom



http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2015/10/arsenal-boss-wenger-to-voice-tube-announcements-on-london-underground/?


Now where is that damn cover I was trying to find earlier.

Where is my coat gone .............

SureYWouldntYa

hots wrote: »

Anything to be said for recalling Kalas?

Can't understand why the likes of Kalas and Bamford/Solanke aren't in the squad ahead of Djilobodji and Falcao. You need to keep some youths around that are good enough to make an impact so you hungry players behind the established first team players. The only player even close to that in the squad now is RLC

hots

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Can't understand why the likes of Kalas and Bamford/Solanke aren't in the squad ahead of Djilobodji and Falcao. You need to keep some youths around that are good enough to make an impact so you hungry players behind the established first team players. The only player even close to that in the squad now is RLC

I'd add Kenedy but the point stands... the only thing is even if they were in the squad would they just be languishing like traore?

rottie 11

We should try to buy veratti in January. I'm sick to death of having cesc in cm

GavRedKing

rottie 11 wrote: »

We should try to buy veratti in January. I'm sick to death of having cesc in cm

Would cost an arm and a leg and would be UCL cup tied.....assuming we get out of our group.

GavRedKing

Stoke vs Sheff Wed was the QF draw we could have got.

GavRedKing

Off topic, I done what Jose couldnt do in the new Football Manager, bought in Varane for an eye watering £65million as John Stones ended up at Utd for £55m.

symbolic

GavRedKing wrote: »

Off topic, I done what Jose couldnt do in the new Football Manager, bought in Varane for an eye watering £65million as John Stones ended up at Utd for £55m.

Are you Chelsea? Do you get a direct line to Roman for money when you need it?

GavRedKing

symbolic wrote: »

Are you Chelsea? Do you get a direct line to Roman for money when you need it?

No direct line but I reckon I'll be sacked if I go on a Jose style run of losses :pac:

Its still a beta version so I usually go a big team for a few days to get a feel for the game and then take on a different challenge.

Weirdly, Chelsea had about £100m to spend in the game, which was boasted by sales of Ramires, Mikel and Oscar, however I'm seriously short in CM now.

hots

GavRedKing wrote: »

No direct line but I reckon I'll be sacked if I go on a Jose style run of losses :pac:

Its still a beta version so I usually go a big team for a few days to get a feel for the game and then take on a different challenge.

Weirdly, Chelsea had about £100m to spend in the game, which was boasted by sales of Ramires, Mikel and Oscar, however I'm seriously short in CM now.

How ya finding the new game? Busy at work so think I'll skip the Beta this year although could easily cave come the w/e if it's relatively bug-free. Got the PC hooked up to the living room tv with a wireless keyboard/touchpad... gamechanger right there. Now when I'm screaming at real life Ramires on one screen I can fine him a couple of weeks wages in FM

GavRedKing

hots wrote: »

How ya finding the new game? Busy at work so think I'll skip the Beta this year although could easily cave come the w/e if it's relatively bug-free. Got the PC hooked up to the living room tv with a wireless keyboard/touchpad... gamechanger right there. Now when I'm screaming at real life Ramires on one screen I can fine him a couple of weeks wages in FM

Some of the menus are more sleek and stream lined compared to FM15 anyway but I've only out in about 2hrs last night after seeing Spectre.

I've had no issues so far anyway with bugs, last year I had the sneding off bug, where 1 or 2 players were sent off every game, it was late in the beta for me as I started a new save so I quit that save.

My buddy has the beta too and hes having an issue at the moment with players vanishing, hes running the 3D match engine too and instead of players on screen the ball would just be moving on its own, invisible players if you will. I've seen it reported online too of a few people suffering crash dumps while playing so theyre advising to save reguarly, which I usually do anyway.

I've got the wireless keyboard/mouse ready to go to and have it hooked up to 42" TV, only issue is you dont wanna be too far away or else you'll miss some of the text.

GavRedKing

Will be interesting to see if Pedro is fit for this weekends game. He had a slight injury that ruled him out of the West Ham/Stoke games.

It was reported, from the Daily Star of all places that hes unhappy here and wants to go back to Barca. :pac:

I did see that Pedro mentioned that he has to adapt to the strong EPL and its very different to what hes used to, for instance look at Cuadrado, looked great in Italy, pants in England and now hes looking good again in Italy.

Salah too, great in Switzerland, terrible for us and excellent in Italy.

I'd hope Pedro recovers from his injury issues and gives us a good season as hes a great player.

GavRedKing

Pheonix10 wrote: »

That manager is doing a better job than yours this season

Well, thats 1 trophy LVG wont win after last night, so hes got to win 2 of the remaining 3 trophies theyre in to have an equally or greater season than Jose in his 2nd season.

Again, I direct you too my assumption of how it will pan out.

GavRedKing wrote: »

He is, lets see how his 2nd season pans out compared to Joses, I'm willing to bet not as succesful though.

FWIW, we wont win anything this season, IMO, we've far too many issues to build a consistent run of games to win a competition.

Johner

I'm pretty confident of a win on Saturday, we will do well in the games against the likes of Arsenal, Liverpool, United at home. It's just every other game we need to worry about.

GavRedKing

Johner wrote: »

I'm pretty confident of a win on Saturday, we will do well in the games against the likes of Arsenal, Liverpool, United at home. It's just every other game we need to worry about.

I think you're right, we've played better in the last few games but the results havent been coming which is a concern but at least we're not playing badly.

A huge concern though for me is we seem to play well for a period and go a goal down and this group doesnt seem to be able to get themselves out of that situation as the belief and confidence is usually shot there and then.

Another thing is, we're not scoring freely enough from open play, a good chunk of our goals have been set pieces, while we cant effectively defend set pieces at the other end.

I assumed when we beat Arsenal we'd turn a corner but it wasnt to be, even if we beat Pool I want be as naive, its not the start of anything, its 1 win and hopefully a good start to a bit of form but we need to start winning 2 or 3 games in a row and see how we get on, the fixture list is kind enough for the next half a dozen games so theres scope for wins and confidence to return, key word though is "hopefully".

gosplan

I don't get Mikel.

Nearly 10 years there getting 20 or so games a season.

He's been amazing at times, especially during the successful CL campaign I thought.

Obv he'd stick around. Then Jose's coming back - stick around for that too.

But then Matic was the clear message that he'll just never be first choice.

It's odd, I keep thinking of him as this teenager you just swiped from Utd but his whole career has nearly passed.

Anyone know much about him? Does he just love the club or is he content to be a small cog in a much bigger wheel?

GavRedKing

gosplan wrote: »

I don't get Mikel.

Nearly 10 years there getting 20 or so games a season.

He's been amazing at times, especially during the successful CL campaign I thought.

Obv he'd stick around. Then Jose's coming back - stick around for that too.

But then Matic was the clear message that he'll just never be first choice.

It's odd, I keep thinking of him as this teenager you just swiped from Utd but his whole career has nearly passed.

Anyone know much about him? Does he just love the club or is he content to be a small cog in a much bigger wheel?

Hes either a money grabbing sod or a good professional. Hes never complained about game time so it could be argued either way really.

I think hes under rated to a degree as his positional sense is pretty spot on and hes quiet good on the ball and hes good at recycling the ball, his passing range and weight of ball over short distances is good enough, now, hes not Xabi Alonso or Busquets, hes not a world class DM but he goes about his job consistently enough.

I'd hate to see him in a double pivot with Cesc as both are slow as f**k but partnered with Ramires, Matic or RLC hes not a bad option as long as the guy next to him is willing to engage the opponents more and be more active.

GavRedKing

Evas banging in a claim.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/oct/29/eva-carneiro-constructive-dismissal-chelsea-doctor

GavRedKing

Its either going be settled out of court, which I assume it to be or the club will take her to court and make a mess of the PR, which I hope doesnt happen.

GavRedKing

Gotta love this, just seen a combined Chelsea/Liverpool XI.....wait for it :

Courtois - no issue

Clyne - no issue, Ivans muck
Cahill - no issue
Sakho - arguable, could be Skrtel or JT easily
Azp - no issue

Matic - no issue
Henderson - LOL

Willian - no issue
Couthino - LOL
Hazard - no issue

Benteke - :pac:

hots

GavRedKing wrote: »

Gotta love this, just seen a combined Chelsea/Liverpool XI.....wait for it :

Courtois - no issue

Clyne - no issue, Ivans muck
Cahill - no issue
Sakho - arguable, could be Skrtel or JT easily
Azp - no issue

Matic - no issue
Henderson - LOL

Willian - no issue
Couthino - LOL
Hazard - no issue

Benteke - :pac:

Tbh Benteke is the only outrageous one, Sakho shouldn't be either really. Coutinho very hot/cold but not sure who could be put in instead based on this year's performances. I'm actually quite a big fan of Henderson, very Carrick like imo, nothing special (ever) but consistent and does enough all the time...

GavRedKing

hots wrote: »

Tbh Benteke is the only outrageous one, Sakho shouldn't be either really. Coutinho very hot/cold but not sure who could be put in instead based on this year's performances. I'm actually quite a big fan of Henderson, very Carrick like imo, nothing special (ever) but consistent and does enough all the time...

Form is temporary....or in course, our bad form is lasting too many weeks at this stage. :pac:

gosplan

GavRedKing wrote: »

Gotta love this, just seen a combined Chelsea/Liverpool XI.....wait for it :

Courtois - no issue

Clyne - no issue, Ivans muck
Cahill - no issue
Sakho - arguable, could be Skrtel or JT easily
Azp - no issue

Matic - no issue
Henderson - LOL

Willian - no issue
Couthino - LOL
Hazard - no issue

Benteke - :pac:

It's just sheer numbers really but the delusion seems strong with that lot.

The Coutinho better than Ozil one had me a few weeks back.

GavRedKing

gosplan wrote: »

It's just sheer numbers really but the delusion seems strong with that lot.

The Coutinho better than Ozil one had me a few weeks back.

Watch Couthino have his 1 good game in 10 against us and score now.

GavRedKing

Ramires signs a new deal.

http://www.chelseafc.com/news/latest-news/2015/10/ramires-signs-new-contract.html

Brings him upto 2019....or hopefully sold in the summer to finance Pogba. :pac: