Chelsea Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016

GavRedKing

Its a serious waste of a season for RLC, Kenedy, Traore and even more so the £20m LB Rahman, if you cant start against Scunthorpe how are you expected to compete for places in the tougher games?

these are the games that you give those guys on the fringe of the squad a game as well as some of the regulars especially given we've 2 more games in 7 days and hes played nearly a full strength team bar Courtois, JT and Hazard whos injured.

hots

That's ridiculous. I'm delighted we've started to show some improved form lately but in the grand scheme of things out doesn't matter as the season is already written off. The only good thing this season could have brought is blooding in some youngsters and we can't even manage that against Scunthorpe.

rottie 11

Are we on TV today lads na

Andersonisgod

The prospect of blooding young players at Chelsea makes me laugh. The BT punditry team just compared the situation of Loftus Cheek and Dele Alli and they are right on that. Loftus Cheek was by far the more highly regarded prospect yet Dele Alli is trusted by Spurs, consistently plays first team football and as a result has completely leapfrogged Cheek. What a terrible shame for him it is that this is a club that cares not for its youth players at all.

Garzorico

Have we ever played the kids (regularly)? I dont recall that we did.

Shame - RLC must be a mouth in training or something. Or the top dogs have it in their contract that they have to play ahead of the youth/reserve team players coz I can't see any reason not to play a lurry load of them..

ShoulderChip

rottie 11 wrote: »

Are we on TV today lads

Yup, BT Sport 2

rottie 11 wrote: »

na

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rottie 11

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Yup, BT Sport 2


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Nice one cheers

hots

Andersonisgod wrote: »

The prospect of blooding young players at Chelsea makes me laugh. The BT punditry team just compared the situation of Loftus Cheek and Dele Alli and they are right on that. Loftus Cheek was by far the more highly regarded prospect yet Dele Alli is trusted by Spurs, consistently plays first team football and as a result has completely leapfrogged Cheek. What a terrible shame for him it is that this is a club that cares not for its youth players at all.

It will cripple us over the next few seasons imo. It's not just terry who is nearing the end of his career, we have loads of spaces in the squad that need to be filled over the next few seasons.

RLC and kenedy shouldn't have even been a question to play today, I was expecting to see if Bamford /aina /Traore /colkett etc would get the start or the bench. Silly me.

hots

Nice goal, should be a few here for the taking.

hots

hots wrote: »

Nice goal, should be a few here for the taking.

Maybe not. Ramires and Pedro off at half time please.

Another super tackle from zouma there.

Andersonisgod

Ramirez doing his best to keep Scunthorpe in this game. It's admirable really.

redman85

hots wrote: »

Another super tackle from zouma there.

So athletic for someone built like a brick sh**house!!

hots

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Ramirez doing his best to keep Scunthorpe in this game. It's admirable really.

Should have been a peno against him there too

peteeeed

Reuben

rottie 11

****ing delighted

hots

Tidy finish rlc!

Crackle

I was just thinking that I was disappointed with him today, but that was good movement and a tidy finish. Lampard-esque.

Panthro

Teixeira wouldn't be blocked from joining Chelsea apparently.
If he does a Willian of this season for us....welcome aboard!

GavRedKing

Wait until we get Pep next year lads.

We'll be playing Kenedy and RLC next year under Pep.

GavRedKing

RLC would flourish under a football playing coach if given game time anyway.

Panthro

Need more Mark Hughes, some wonderful footy being played under Sparky

GavRedKing

Panthro wrote: »

Need more Mark Hughes, some wonderful footy being played under Sparky

If we get Mark Hughes im supporting Pep at City. :pac:

tombliboo83

Panthro wrote: »

Need more Mark Hughes, some wonderful footy being played under Sparky

He's an obvious candidate for the job imo. Lots of premier league experience and has Stoke playing a lovely brand of football.

Panthro

GavRedKing wrote: »

If we get Mark Hughes im supporting Pep at City. :pac:

If we get Pep I'm supporting ....
Ah who we kidding.
We won't get Pep.

GavRedKing

Sparky wont be considered because IMO hes not exotic or glamorous enough, does that mean he doesnt deserve it, nope, not at all but I dont think he'd be a candidate.

Much like Moyes, you usually only get 1 shot at the big time and he didnt exactly bring City very far, Mancini was better than him with a better squad clearly but pellegrini was an upgrade on mancini too.

With a better manager city would be scary good and Pep looks to be that guy, unfortunately.

kev1.3s

I had a massive hangover today so I've got to admit I did drift in an out a bit in the second half, missed RLC's goal but he took his opertunity well. I think kenedy looks very exciting too in fact the only gripe I'd have is that at 2-0 traore could have been afforded a bit more time.

Lukker-

First academy player to score since Carlton Cole.

Panthro

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3392888/Chelsea-captain-John-Terry-invites-Scunthorpe-players-home-dressing-room-FA-Cup-clash-Stamford-Bridge.html

Terry the hero

GavRedKing

Whys the draw not until tomorrow for the fa cup.

Lukker-

Hopefully we can win the FA cup, some silverware will help paper over such a dreadful season.

tombliboo83

Lukker- wrote: »

Hopefully we can win the FA cup, some silverware will help paper over such a dreadful season.

Id settle for the champions league

tombliboo83

On a serious note the cup would put some gloss on the season for us. As regards Hughes, gav is right,it wouldn't be a sexy appointment but I feel it's the direction we should be looking at i.e. closer to home.

Lukker-

I'd like Pochetino, his teams play attractive enough football and I think he's well suited to the league. He developed the younger players at Spurs and Southampton too.

redman85

Delighted RLC scored but I thought he looked a bit lazy off the ball, strolling around when Scunthopre were on the counter. Kenedy on the otherhand was everywhere and looking for the ball to drive at their line. Both of them are great prospects and I hope they get some serious game time over the next few weeks.

Crazy to think Zouma is only 21 :eek:

hots

redman85 wrote: »

Delighted RLC scored but I thought he looked a bit lazy off the ball, strolling around when Scunthopre were on the counter. Kenedy on the otherhand was everywhere and looking for the ball to drive at their line. Both of them are great prospects and I hope they get some serious game time over the next few weeks.

Crazy to think Zouma is only 21 :eek:

Completely agree, very yaya-like strolling around. Could use some lampard mentoring to get that work rate up. He made some good challenges and composed on the ball but positionally he was all over the place and didn't put enough of a shift in imo.

Kenedy was great again, love his pace and energy. Would rather be was getting game time over Pedro in hazards absence tbh.

Ramires and Oscar were both pretty poor today and Ivan looked to have gone back a step.

Tubbs4

Think Ivan improved today and put in a good cross. Oscar was poor again and hope RLC gets more time. Another clean sheet on and upwards from here.

GavRedKing

Well with drogba back sometime soon to coach, hopefully instill a winning mentality into the younger players like Kenedy and RLC and what it means to bleed lue.

kev1.3s

I'd gladly accept no trophy's this year and a break from champions league next season if Gus can put his arm around some of these academy players and get them integrated into the first team.

redman85

kev1.3s wrote: »

I'd gladly accept no trophy's this year and a break from champions league next season if Gus can put his arm around some of these academy players and get them integrated into the first team.

Couldn't agree more, this season is a write-off so why not try out some of our academy players.

According to the interview with Guus on BT he thought RLC was 23 not 19, said you dont see many year olds with that physique!

GavRedKing

redman85 wrote: »

Couldn't agree more, this season is a write-off so why not try out some of our academy players.

According to the interview with Guus on BT he thought RLC was 23 not 19, said you dont see many year olds with that physique!

I remember Micah richards about the same age being built like a house.

Zoumas no small man either.

RLc 19
Zouma 21
Courtois 23
Rahman 21
Kenedy 19

These are the guys we should be building the team around for the next 5 years, theres serious amounts of talent in those 5 guys.

Rahman was bundesliga defender of the year.
Courtois is top 3 in the world, easily.
Zouma is one of the finest young CBs around.
RLC has serious amounts of ability, if he can reach them we're sorted for CM.
Kenedy is a surprise package, good footballer already and his potential is pretty high IMO.

So I'm not too worried about the future but we've to start playing RLC, Kenedy and especially Rahman to get the best out of them, which is why I'd renew Ivans contract for 1 year while Christensen is still on loan and bed rahman in as a starter and Ivan as back up.

GavRedKing

kev1.3s wrote: »

I'd gladly accept no trophy's this year and a break from champions league next season if Gus can put his arm around some of these academy players and get them integrated into the first team.

I think when 4th is impossible, probably with about 6-8 games to go, he'll probably start playing more youths from the start and giving them a run which takes off the pressure and lets them just perform.

redman85

GavRedKing wrote: »

Rahman was bundesliga defender of the year.

I dont think Jose trusted Baba much and I can see why he hasnt played recently. Guus has been going on about how we need more leaders on the pitch, naturally Ivanovic fits that bill. I know who I would rather crossing into the box :rolleyes:

GavRedKing

redman85 wrote: »

I dont think Jose trusted Baba much and I can see why he hasnt played recently. Guus has been going on about how we need more leaders on the pitch, naturally Ivanovic fits that bill. I know who I would rather crossing into the box :rolleyes:

Well hopefully Rahman stays around, much younger than Luis last year and Ivans contract is up too this year.

I'd much prefer to have Azp at RB and rahman at LB, would make us much more dangerous going forward.

Lukker-

Most talk I've heard is that Baba isn't strong enough for the PL yet. They are working on bringing his conditioning to a PL standard, I think that's the primary reason he hasn't featured.

GavRedKing

Alot depends on who our next permanent manager is too.

He may not fancy playing the youths either leaving us in a difficult position. If we had won 2-0 today and RLC or another youth didnt score the result would have looked less impressive, too me anyway.

Lukker-

Meh, I'm perfectly happy with the line-up and how the game went. We should be going all out to win the cup. If we can play RLC while doing so all the better. Reading some forums and it's like they want to see the u21's play as the full team every game. Blooding youth is gradual, for the best result. We've seen it in the past where we play an entirely different line-up in cup games and get knocked out by lesser teams. That does no one any good as most of the young players won't get the chance to prove themselves again until next season then. Hopefully we get a nice draw next round and RLC might get a start.

grumpymunster

I guess regarding Baba II when Dave arrived it took him a while to get into the team on a consistent basis (and then at LB as Ash got injured) same as Happy so seen as this season is gone build him up properly as Dave, Happy and Baba II will be the basis of our defence for the next 5 years at least. Perhaps Christensen or Kalas as well that would be non to shabby.

I do hope we get RLC to sign a new contract soon as we will regret him going the same as I assume United supporters must rue Pogba going.

GavRedKing

Reports from Italy suggests we're chasing AC Milans Carlos Bacca, which I seriously doubt that as the figure is something like 30m and the guy is 29, hes 30 next September.

The other is that the Teixeria deal is close to complete.

GavRedKing

grumpymunster wrote: »

I guess regarding Baba II when Dave arrived it took him a while to get into the team on a consistent basis (and then at LB as Ash got injured) same as Happy so seen as this season is gone build him up properly as Dave, Happy and Baba II will be the basis of our defence for the next 5 years at least. Perhaps Christensen or Kalas as well that would be non to shabby.

I do hope we get RLC to sign a new contract soon as we will regret him going the same as I assume United supporters must rue Pogba going.

Someone pointed it out, theres very little between Delle Alli and RLC, the only thing is Alli is getting starts for Spurs. Now, Spurs dont have the quality of our CMs or our #10s but the thing is, our quality players have failed to perform this year too, so RLC should have got a shot and maybe he'd be a starter too.

He'd probably faeture for a few EPL teams at this stage of his development and hes only 19. As you said above, we've to nail him down to a long contract and hopefully the 45mins and goal and support from the fans n social media will sway him towards staying.

He could drop down a level or two, even to a lower EPL side and work up in the coming 3-4 years but I'd love if he stayed here in proved hes got what it takes to make it to the top for us.

grumpymunster

GavRedKing wrote: »

Reports from Italy suggests we're chasing AC Milans Carlos Bacca, which I seriously doubt that as the figure is something like 30m and the guy is 29, hes 30 next September.

The other is that the Teixeria deal is close to complete.

Ah silly season Gav it is also reported no bid has been made for Teixeria

http://www.chelseafcblog.com/transfer-news/shakhtar-boss-no-chelsea-bid-alex-teixeira/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+chelseablog+%28Chelsea+FC+Blog%29

And that we are looking to sign an Amadou Diawara on the strength he has scored one goal all season (still right age profile dpending upon price I guess).

http://metro.co.uk/2016/01/11/chelsea-prepare-transfer-bid-for-amadou-diawara-report-5614711/?