Precision timing insolvency

68 lost souls

Sad to see an Irish company go under. Hope it doesn't effect too many Tri clubs. What impact will this have?

Clubs seek legal advice after insolvent race management company leaves them high and dry
http://the42.ie/2368691

promethius

Going to be messy! Know of a local race left high and dry which was a charity fundraiser!

RacoonQueen

They didn't to many triathlons did they? Caroline Kearney? Did they do many other high profile triathlons? I assume midlands tri are screwed since races from June time haven't been paid.

68 lost souls

Am I right in saying Lanesborough as well?

sconhome

Most of the events covered were running related. Triathlon and cycling mostly used their own web portals.

Where charity events are being caught is PT offered cheap chip timing in exchange for entry which gave them a mailing list. Race entries are not hitting critical mass to justify chip timing in many of the local events.

EC1000

RacoonQueen wrote: »

They didn't to many triathlons did they? Caroline Kearney? Did they do many other high profile triathlons? I assume midlands tri are screwed since races from June time haven't been paid.

Don't want to go into on here but yes we used PT......

sconhome

EC1000 wrote: »

Don't want to go into on here but yes we used PT......

Sorry to hear that.

couerdelion

Yeah - our charity races used PT too. Lost quite a bit in entries for upcoming race - or rather the charities will end up getting less this year unfortunately as we will still be putting the race on.

speedyj

AKW wrote: »

Where charity events are being caught is PT offered cheap chip timing in exchange for entry which gave them a mailing list.

If true, this kind of email list acquisition would be considered illegal under Data Protection laws IMO. Contact details such as email addresses should only be retained for as long as necessary to satisfy the initial use case, i.e. after a race they should be deleted. I know this is in the main ignored by race organisers but anyhow..

sconhome

speedyj wrote: »

If true, this kind of email list acquisition would be considered illegal under Data Protection laws IMO. Contact details such as email addresses should only be retained for as long as necessary to satisfy the initial use case, i.e. after a race they should be deleted. I know this is in the main ignored by race organisers but anyhow..

If you submit your email address and part of the T&C's (which we all read ) allowed them to add you to their mailing lists then it shouldn't be a DP issue. It is only if that is passed to a 3rd party that there is a problem AFAIK

I get what you mean though. Which reminds me there is another event which I definitely must look into myself.

sconhome

speedyj wrote: »

If true, this kind of email list acquisition would be considered illegal under Data Protection laws IMO. Contact details such as email addresses should only be retained for as long as necessary to satisfy the initial use case, i.e. after a race they should be deleted. I know this is in the main ignored by race organisers but anyhow..

Sorry re-reading I wasn't clear in my original post and confused the topic.

It is not a cheap chip timing in exchange for transfer of emails.

Instead they would offer a better chip price if they were to handle the entry process which leads to the acquisition of the email address, submitted by entrants.

RacoonQueen

speedyj wrote: »

If true, this kind of email list acquisition would be considered illegal under Data Protection laws IMO. Contact details such as email addresses should only be retained for as long as necessary to satisfy the initial use case, i.e. after a race they should be deleted. I know this is in the main ignored by race organisers but anyhow..

The races won't actually get physical access to the email addresses I don't think? Would imagine that it's more ''hey we have ALL these addresses in our database and 98% of them receive newsletters from us advertising races''

edisonolmy

Sad news. I always thought they provided an excellent service at any races they were involved in. As mentioned above, it'll get messy.

Claude Burgundy

EC1000 wrote: »

Don't want to go into on here but yes we used PT......

As did we:(

Milo Liquorice

Looks like Precision Timing are promoting a run in Ennis on Halloween.....are they back??

sconhome

Milo Liquorice wrote: »

Looks like Precision Timing are promoting a run in Ennis on Halloween.....are they back??

Not as far as I am aware.

I do understand some of the employees are striking out on their own as a new business. Hopefully they use a sensible model.

Milo Liquorice

AKW wrote: »

Not as far as I am aware.

I do understand some of the employees are striking out on their own as a new business. Hopefully they use a sensible model.

Best of luck to them. However, using Precision Timing branded posters and medals does not seem like a good business model.

sconhome

Milo Liquorice wrote: »

Best of luck to them. However, using Precision Timing branded posters and medals does not seem like a good business model.

Are you sure about that?

I know PT were involved with the Eamon Moloney Memorial crew who are hosting a Halloween run. They got stung and went to a different service provider.

Have you a url link that you can post here? The link won't work but we can follow with copy and paste.

Milo Liquorice

Its being pushed on the on the Running In Clare FB page.
If it was originally a Precision Timing race, they are probably just using up pre-ordered PT branded posters and medals.

sconhome

Milo Liquorice wrote: »

Its being pushed on the on the Running In Clare FB page.
If it was originally a Precision Timing race, they are probably just using up pre-ordered PT branded posters and medals.

That's what it is - they must have pre-ordered and received medals and leaflets as the event did put a post out a few weeks back

***Important*** please share
Due to unforseen circumstances we have encountered with our previous online registration company, we have had to change registration links. The following link is the online registration we will be using going forward. Run Clare is alive and kicking so please share and make everyone aware of the change. Early bird still applies. Anyone that has already entered will not be affected!!!

Claude Burgundy

We were ordering our flyers the morning we got the news about PT so thankfully their details didn't go onto it.

RacoonQueen

http://www.myrunresults.com/