RSA ?? v ?? USA

efb · 07-10-2015 4:55pm #1

RSA 🇿🇦 v 🇺🇸 USA

As the pool talk seems to be discussing the citing here we go!

USA miss long rage pen, Burger lucky not to be carded

No RSA score an easy try

Copa Mundial · 07-10-2015 4:56pm

Looking like it'll be a long evening for the US.

Redgirl82 · 07-10-2015 4:57pm

Where is Ruan Pienaar ?

efb · 07-10-2015 4:57pm

This should be a walk in the park for RSA

efb · 07-10-2015 4:58pm

Redgirl82 wrote: »

Where is Ruan Pienaar ?

Ulster

Redgirl82 · 07-10-2015 5:01pm

efb wrote: »

Ulster

Didnt realise he didnt make WC squad?

efb · 07-10-2015 5:02pm

Redgirl82 wrote: »

Didnt realise he didnt make WC squad?

Very difficult to make it not playing at home

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 07-10-2015 5:04pm

Ajjjjjjjjjjjjjj would've kicked both those penalties.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 07-10-2015 5:05pm

Pienaar is in the RSA squad. He played in the ill fated Japan match along with Kirchner and neither have been seen since. Actually I think Pienaar came on at the end of the Scotland game for about 2 minutes.

AbusesToilets · 07-10-2015 5:06pm

McGinty injured?

Redgirl82 · 07-10-2015 5:07pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Pienaar is in the RSA squad. He played in the ill fated Japan match along with Kirchner and neither have been seen since.

I was thinking he would be in seeing as he was starting 9 for 4 nations wasn't he?

Redgirl82 · 07-10-2015 5:07pm

AbusesToilets wrote: »

McGinty injured?

Said at start they where resting a lot of players and targetting the Japan match

Jacovs · 07-10-2015 5:09pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Pienaar is in the RSA squad. He played in the ill fated Japan match along with Kirchner and neither have been seen since. Actually I think Pienaar came on at the end of the Scotland game for about 2 minutes.

Pienaar played a couple minutes against sctoland just a few days ago if im not mistaken.

wp_rathead · 07-10-2015 5:09pm

Ruan is in the RSA squad, he started against Japan so unlikely we shall see him in Springbok jersey again

The first pen was tricky for USA, but the second one has to be kicked over...

American Second XV been impressive enough so far

Dave_The_Sheep · 07-10-2015 5:10pm

Could be a red here for Habana.

nehe milner skudder · 07-10-2015 5:10pm

ha i couldn't have scripted it. i mentioned this exact incident two minutes ago in group thread.

efb · 07-10-2015 5:11pm

No red card. Penalty. Yellow

Dave_The_Sheep · 07-10-2015 5:11pm

Hah. Not even a penalty.

efb · 07-10-2015 5:11pm

efb wrote: »

No red card. Penalty. Yellow

Or nothing!

AbusesToilets · 07-10-2015 5:11pm

Nasty impact there for Scully

Redgirl82 · 07-10-2015 5:11pm

Red card...Habana

Just to make it interesting

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 07-10-2015 5:11pm

Oh my! That's a couple of bangs to the head for Habana.

efb · 07-10-2015 5:12pm

It did look like they were both genuinely contesting

wp_rathead · 07-10-2015 5:12pm

If the Namibian lad got a YC yesterday, that has to be a YC for Habana?
Now imo, ref is right and neither should be yellow but unfair how interpretation is different

nehe milner skudder · 07-10-2015 5:12pm

so whats the difference between that and what happened to jared payne or finn russell?
they made genuine attempts to catch the ball too.but because they didn't jump they are guilty?

AbusesToilets · 07-10-2015 5:12pm

Habana lucky there

07-10-2015 5:13pm

Oh man, Awec is gonna be pissed if that isn't a Red.

crisco10 · 07-10-2015 5:13pm

is that not entirey inconsistent with the yellow for Fecu yesterday?

Sangre · 07-10-2015 5:13pm

nehe milner skudder wrote: »

so whats the difference between that and what happened to jared payne or finn russell?
they made genuine attempts to catch the ball too.but because they didn't jump they are guilty?

IRB has changed its approach since then due to incidents like the above.

nehe milner skudder · 07-10-2015 5:14pm

very inconsistent decisions these days.

petebricquette · 07-10-2015 5:14pm

nehe milner skudder wrote: »

so whats the difference between that and what happened to jared payne or finn russell?
they made genuine attempts to catch the ball too.but because they didn't jump they are guilty?

Murphy was saying on ITV that the laws have changed so if both are genuinely competing for the ball it's no longer a straight red.

efb · 07-10-2015 5:14pm

nehe milner skudder wrote: »

so whats the difference between that and what happened to jared payne or finn russell?
they made genuine attempts to catch the ball too.but because they didn't jump they are guilty?

If you don't jump you have to protect the player jumping

efb · 07-10-2015 5:14pm

It should have been yellow by the laws

07-10-2015 5:15pm

Sangre wrote: »

IRB has changed its approach since then due to incidents like the above.

Yeah, as soon as it happened to someone other than Ulster they had to change the rules. One of the changes under the Lacey-Garces principle.

nehe milner skudder · 07-10-2015 5:15pm

Sangre wrote: »

IRB has changed its approach since then due to incidents like the above.

for better or worse do you mean?

the TMO said both players, made genuine attempts to catch the ball.
payne didn't take his eyes of the ball the whole time.
whats the difference?

nehe milner skudder · 07-10-2015 5:15pm

efb wrote: »

If you don't jump you have to protect the player jumping

that is absolutely bananas.

efb · 07-10-2015 5:16pm

No try

nehe milner skudder · 07-10-2015 5:17pm

so just jump be default, to A) exonerate yourself from blame

get the rub of the green if you land awkwardly.

efb · 07-10-2015 5:17pm

nehe milner skudder wrote: »

that is absolutely bananas.

Duty of care- you can't be reckless pull out and let him fall on his head/neck

efb · 07-10-2015 5:18pm

nehe milner skudder wrote: »

so just jump be default, to A) exonerate yourself from blame get the rub of the green if you land awkwardly.

It you jump late you could be in trouble. Genuinely contest the ball and protect the jumper.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 07-10-2015 5:18pm

Excellent bit of defending from the USA there. I took Kriel out of my fantasy team this week so he better not score!

nehe milner skudder · 07-10-2015 5:18pm

efb wrote: »

Duty of care- you can't be reckless pull out and let him fall on his head/neck

jared payne never pulled out.
finn russell had to pull out because he was about to get a knee in the face,like habana just did.

efb · 07-10-2015 5:19pm

nehe milner skudder wrote: »

jared payne never pulled out.
finn russell had to pull out because he was about to get a knee in the face,like habana just did.

Habana didn't pull out he contested it fully

nehe milner skudder · 07-10-2015 5:20pm

efb wrote: »

It you jump late you could be in trouble. Genuinely contest the ball and protect the jumper.

i dont understand this. i played fullback.
when a ball went up i wanted to catch the ball AND flatten the other guy.

its a contact sport.

efb · 07-10-2015 5:21pm

nehe milner skudder wrote: »

i dont understand this. i played fullback.
when a ball went up i wanted to catch the ball AND flatten the other guy.

its a contact sport.

So is boxing, you can't rabbit punch your opponent or punch him in the kidneys

efb · 07-10-2015 5:22pm

nehe milner skudder wrote: »

i dont understand this. i played fullback.
when a ball went up i wanted to catch the ball AND flatten the other guy.

its a contact sport.

Suspended much?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 07-10-2015 5:22pm

Was that even a full 10 minutes Habana and Scully were off for their concussion tests?

efb · 07-10-2015 5:22pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Was that even a full 10 minutes Habana and Scully were off for their concussion tests?

Probably real time 10

awec · 07-10-2015 5:23pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh man, Awec is gonna be pissed if that isn't a Red.

What did I miss?

efb · 07-10-2015 5:24pm

awec wrote: »

What did I miss?

Habana and the USA player both jumped for the ball, collided and landed badly. Ref went to TMO decided not a penalty, scum no punishment

nehe milner skudder · 07-10-2015 5:25pm

efb wrote: »

So is boxing, you can't rabbit punch your opponent or punch him in the kidneys

im agreeing with you. i just don't understand why in a transaction involving two people catching the ball one person has more culpability than the other.

you could argue that scully was the more dangerous of the two. he left the ground of his own volition, connected with habanas face, and ended up landing arse over tit for his troubles.

RSA ?? v ?? USA

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