Airline/Airport/Travel questions and queries

Pompous

Okay great, thanks for the reply. I suspected as much but just wanted to check. This flight needs to go off without a hitch.

But sure don't they all..

Van.Bosch

Pompous wrote: »

Okay great, thanks for the reply. I suspected as much but just wanted to check. This flight needs to go off without a hitch.

But sure don't they all..

Can’t see the image but who did you book with and who is operating the flight?

Tenger

spurious wrote: »

For example, I had a recent flight on Ryanair operated by another carrier, Ryanair Sun. We didn't notice any difference to be honest.

Ryanair Sun is a subsidiary of Ryanair (lower salaries I believe) but uses the same aircraft type and uniforms. So practically speaking there is not obvious difference to the customer.

An more recognizable example would be Aer Lingus hiring ASL to operate their flights from Belfast. It’s a different airline, different aircraft type, different livery and uniforms.

Pompous

My girlfriend in the states in on the flight now. It's with Norwegian air. I booked directly with them. The image that doesn't seem to be cooperating is an email from them a month after the flight was booked that says:

"Greetings traveller,
We are contacting you to inform you that your flight (number) will be operated by another Carrier.

We understand that these changes are not ideal, but it was necessary for us to lease an aircraft from another Carrier in order to avoid a disruption to your flight.

We're sorry for the disappointment this change may cause.

Why will my flight be operated with another Carrier?
• From time to time, we may be required to lease an aircraft from another Carrier in order to ensure that our flight is operated as planned. This is common practice in the aviation industry and is typically performed in order to overcome unforeseen events.
• The leased aircraft Carrier will always satisfy technical and safety requirements as specified by the applicable authorities."

Pompous

She got on a Norwegian Aircraft too. I asked her if Norwegian checked her in at the desk or if it was another airline, but she doesn't know. She's new to flying.

goingnowhere

Norwegian are in serious difficulties due issues with 787 engines and the grounding of the 737 MAX. They have been hiring in aircraft to cover the gap.

As this is a flight to/from the US, US rules allow for a full refund if you decline to travel on the alternative carrier.

You MUST be told who the operating carrier is.

Thats why you will hear cabin crew remind you, this flights is operated by X on behalf of Y

faoiarvok

Pompous wrote: »

She got on a Norwegian Aircraft too. I asked her if Norwegian checked her in at the desk or if it was another airline, but she doesn't know. She's new to flying.

Like the Ryanair Sun example above (Polish subsidiary of Ryanair), Norwegian have a few different companies in different countries to benefit from that country’s flight rights. If it’s actually a Norwegian aircraft, that’s probably what it’s about. If it’s the New York Stewart to Dublin flight, it’s being operated by Evelop, a Spanish charter airline, to cover flights that they couldn’t run because of their grounded 737 Maxes.

bittihuduga

hi,
what happens if i decide to cancel the flying plan in the last minute at the gate?
whom should i inform?
is it ryanair staff at the boarding gate?
will i go through immigration at dublin airport and then exit via baggage area in T1?
will i get into trouble for going in and coming out immediately without flying?
I'm talking about T1 Dublin

faoiarvok

bittihuduga wrote: »

hi,
what happens if i decide to cancel the flying plan in the last minute at the gate?
whom should i inform?
is it ryanair staff at the boarding gate?
will i go through immigration at dublin airport and then exit via baggage area in T1?
will i get into trouble for going in and coming out immediately without flying?
I'm talking about T1 Dublin

I did it before, I mentioned it to the Ryanair staff at the gate and they took no real notice. Can’t remember the exact route but it was essentially back the way I had come, and no big deal to any of the staff.

K.Flyer

bittihuduga wrote: »

hi,
what happens if i decide to cancel the flying plan in the last minute at the gate?
whom should i inform?
is it ryanair staff at the boarding gate?
will i go through immigration at dublin airport and then exit via baggage area in T1?
will i get into trouble for going in and coming out immediately without flying?
I'm talking about T1 Dublin

Will you have checked bags or only hand luggage??

Del2005

Last year we had a flight cancelled due to the storms. There was a group of us going and we had checked in at different times. The first group where escorted out of airside and sent to hotels. We were told to go to a different gate and then told we weren't authorised to be airside anymore and had to leave, we had to go through passport control and customs.

The only time the airline would care is if you have checked luggage, if you only have hand luggage they won't care if you get on the plane or not. You could run into problems with customs if you buy duty free and don't travel.

L1011

You used to be able to just walk out from T1 (and T2 via the link corridor) before the 200 gates got inbound/outbound seperation. You now need someone with a pass to bring you through

You will need to surrender any duty free spirits/smokes bought on the basis of leaving

Telling the airline is not required but may be a nice thing to do to stop them looking for you

bittihuduga

K.Flyer wrote: »

Will you have checked bags or only hand luggage??

Just hand luggage.
Thanks for the replies.
Just to simplify I will return via security area and won't have to go via immigration or baggage area.

Boxcar_Willie

No you will definitely have to go through Customs .
They are always looking out for this .
People buying cheap one-way tickets to the Canaries , stock up with duty-free cigarettes then don't fly .
Customs are well wise to this stunt - they will either makes you board the flight or surrender your duty-free loot .

bittihuduga

Boxcar_Willie wrote: »

No you will definitely have to go through Customs .
They are always looking out for this .
People buying cheap one-way tickets to the Canaries , stock up with duty-free cigarettes then don't fly .
Customs are well wise to this stunt - they will either makes you board the flight or surrender your duty-free loot .

i don't have to worry about duty free loot.. as i will have none..
im just trying to know the process just in case if i happen to return back without flying. like whom to contact, where to go.

Boxcar_Willie

If your not going to fly then don't go through security .

Spanish Eyes

Boxcar_Willie wrote: »

If your not going to fly then don't go through security .

But things can happen to passengers post security too.

I have no doubt that there is a way out, there has to be. But as a pp said give up yer oul sins of duty free on the way back out. Assuming the destination is outside EU of course, no duty free if otherwise.

L1011

bittihuduga wrote: »

Just hand luggage.
Thanks for the replies.
Just to simplify I will return via security area and won't have to go via immigration or baggage area.

You will have to pass customs even if returned via security. A point will be made of it

Failure to make a flight happens every day

Conor84

Hope it is OK to post this here but there was a previous thread on smoking on aircraft so hope this is OK.

Am just wondering if there is any reason why T2 does not have a smoking area airside like T1? I realise that this is a minority concern these days but with long haul flights departing T2 it would be good for us last remaining smokers.

the T1 area is great and I would go there if I had enough time even if flying from T2 if I had enough time. I am not sure if the other Irish airports have smoking areas?

I have been in a few airports with inside smoking areas like Frankfurt and Lisbon and they have enclosed rooms and they were pretty horrible but then there are others like Birmingham and Lanzarote (huge bar) that have smoking areas outside that are great.

I have a long transfer through T5 coming up soon and don't think there are any smoking areas airside but could be wrong. Anybody know?

I know it is non PC these days to be a smoker but just asking anyway.

fergus1001

pain in the behind walking to t1 just to have a cheroot

Stephen Strange

L1011 wrote: »

You used to be able to just walk out from T1 (and T2 via the link corridor) before the 200 gates got inbound/outbound seperation. You now need someone with a pass to bring you through

You will need to surrender any duty free spirits/smokes bought on the basis of leaving

Telling the airline is not required but may be a nice thing to do to stop them looking for you

You can still exit unescorted. From the loop, head towards Pier 2, turn right, down the escalator, through the one way doors and into the Immigration Hall.

BZ

Conor84 wrote: »

Hope it is OK to post this here but there was a previous thread on smoking on aircraft so hope this is OK.

Am just wondering if there is any reason why T2 does not have a smoking area airside like T1? I realise that this is a minority concern these days but with long haul flights departing T2 it would be good for us last remaining smokers.

the T1 area is great and I would go there if I had enough time even if flying from T2 if I had enough time. I am not sure if the other Irish airports have smoking areas?

I have been in a few airports with inside smoking areas like Frankfurt and Lisbon and they have enclosed rooms and they were pretty horrible but then there are others like Birmingham and Lanzarote (huge bar) that have smoking areas outside that are great.

I have a long transfer through T5 coming up soon and don't think there are any smoking areas airside but could be wrong. Anybody know?

I know it is non PC these days to be a smoker but just asking anyway.

There are none in T5 in LHR either.

Nijmegen

I imagine setting up an open air area is a real pain in the hoop requiring a load of structural changes to suit security concerns. And as you say, nobody will crucify them for not doing it while putting one in will likely attract PR flak. So why bother.

L1011

I was nearly sure that had been closed off with the inbound/outbound separation of the rotunda there. Seems a bit odd to retain it.

Stephen Strange

L1011 wrote: »

I was nearly sure that had been closed off with the inbound/outbound separation of the rotunda there. Seems a bit odd to retain it.

Departures can still get back. Pax arriving can't access it as they now come down stairs/escalator beside the anti-passback doors

shanec1928

Nijmegen wrote: »

I imagine setting up an open air area is a real pain in the hoop requiring a load of structural changes to suit security concerns. And as you say, nobody will crucify them for not doing it while putting one in will likely attract PR flak. So why bother.

every other smoking area that i have ever seen in any other airport is a regular room with the appropriate ventilation \ extraction. its not the wheel being reinvented.

JCX BXC

shanec1928 wrote: »

every other smoking area that i have ever seen in any other airport is a regular room with the appropriate ventilation \ extraction. its not the wheel being reinvented.

Depends on the local smoking regulations, eg this year I've seen the little smoking booths in Poland, and the complete ban in Turkey where you must go outside to smoke. (Ironically, the smoking ban isn't followed to a great extent around the rest of Turkey)

Del2005

shanec1928 wrote: »

every other smoking area that i have ever seen in any other airport is a regular room with the appropriate ventilation \ extraction. its not the wheel being reinvented.

In Ireland it has to have an open roof and IIRC 2 sides open also. Pubs and clubs get away with awnings and questionable open sides, T2 would be doing well to find a suitable location. The other issue it that it would take up retail space and airports don't like giving that up.

LorelaiG

shanec1928 wrote: »

every other smoking area that i have ever seen in any other airport is a regular room with the appropriate ventilation \ extraction. its not the wheel being reinvented.

You've obviously never been in the LHR T3 smoking cage.

Nijmegen

shanec1928 wrote: »

every other smoking area that i have ever seen in any other airport is a regular room with the appropriate ventilation \ extraction. its not the wheel being reinvented.

Yup but that's not the regulation in Ireland.