Businesses/Shops opening in Cork city/suburbs.

Murrisk

the beer revolu wrote: »

Pulled donuts!

:pac:

My cousin says that to figure what the next food craze will be in Ireland next year or in 18 months, check out what the current food craze is in New York.

Murrisk

Murrisk wrote: »

:pac:

My cousin says that to figure what the next food craze will be in Ireland next year or in 18 months, check out what the current food craze is in New York.

Cookie dough it is so. It's a licence to print money in NYC at the moment, queues for DO start on the other side of the street in the middle of the day on a random weekday.

Murrisk

Hasn't cookie dough been around for ages in products? Unless they are serving it in some new way? Must have a Google, I'm curious now!

the beer revolu

Murrisk wrote: »

Hasn't cookie dough been around for ages in products? Unless they are serving it in some new way? Must have a Google, I'm curious now!

Most "new" trends aren't actually new.
People were talking about fancy donuts when they came back from the States in the late eighties.
They've been making burritos in Mexico for generations.
Bone broths might be the next "new" thing that is actually really old.
Pulled pork? Nothing new there.

Bubble tea is about the only actual new trend I can think of off hand and that hasn't taken off here.

DylanGLC

When I saw Oh My Donut opening as well as Huckleberry's, I thought only one could survive. Huckleberry's clearly are the main one right now, even if they have the 'worst' location. I was again surprised to see The Shack open, although it is in a perfect location and I have only heard great things about it. A fourth one opened last week, by the corner of Paul Street and Grand Parade, I think (to the side of McDonalds). I honestly don't know where another one could go that isn't too close to everything else (maybe Emmett Place?).

I have only been to Oh My Donut and Huckleberry's so I can only comment on them. Oh My Donut was nice but I honestly wouldn't call what they sell doughnuts. They were more like buns with toppings. Huckleberry's were the same, however they taste so good I can get over it. Probably the best of all of them is the McDonalds doughnut, though, and it is probably the cheapest.

Oafley Jones

rob316 wrote: »

The Shack is atleast the only one that make their donuts in house as they are part of O Keefe's Bakery.

I'm certain Ali's Kitchen do as well.

Apt8

the beer revolu wrote: »

Bubble tea is about the only actual new trend I can think of off hand and that hasn't taken off here.

There was a place called Boba's on MacCurtain street around Summer 2013, remember the girl running the place was always outside giving samples. I tried one and the pearls were nice, just far too sweet for me. That particular location is terrible anyway, Tandoori Nights there now and it's always empty.

This whole trend of beer/whiskey and donut pairings is ridiculous, seen a few places doing it in the last year and I can't fathom how people go for it. Well hopefully it'll lead to a falling trend in skinny jeans on hipsters :P

freshpopcorn

The Works opened in Blackpool Today. I think one opened in Wilton last year.

thomil

Starbucks have opened their store in Ballincollig over the weekend. They're taking up pretty much the entire former coach house in front of Ballincollig shopping centre. I don't have any pictures at the moment, but the outside signs are pretty unassuming.

freshpopcorn

thomil wrote: »

Starbucks have opened their store in Ballincollig over the weekend. They're taking up pretty much the entire former coach house in front of Ballincollig shopping centre. I don't have any pictures at the moment, but the outside signs are pretty unassuming.

bizz213

Cream. The donut shop that opened on Daunt Sq few weeks ago are opening 2nd store on Oliver Plunkett street, near the Shack. Madness.

D'Agger

That's 5 doughnut shops in Cork now, what's the magic number for market saturation?

TrustedApple

Its crazy with the donut places now 5 in 7 months have opened. I am all for one for the jobs they make but really how many donuts can you sell a day ?.

I tryed cream last weekend there ok not great at all as there is barely anything in them but there was 5 or 6 girls working in a donuts shop and you don't make your own donuts ?. Tell me where the profit is in that business ?.

freshpopcorn

TrustedApple wrote: »

I tryed cream last weekend there ok not great at all as there is barely anything in them but there was 5 or 6 girls working in a donuts shop and you don't make your own donuts ?. Tell me where the profit is in that business ?.

This is something I often wonder about a lot of shops!

TrustedApple

TrustedApple wrote: »

Its crazy with the donut places now 5 in 7 months have opened. I am all for one for the jobs they make but really how many donuts can you sell a day ?.

I'm not sure long term but I saw a picture on facebook a week or so ago of a massive queue outside the Shack on a recent Saturday morning waiting for it to open so they are certainly selling at the moment.

Oafley Jones

TrustedApple wrote: »

Its crazy with the donut places now 5 in 7 months have opened. I am all for one for the jobs they make but really how many donuts can you sell a day ?.

I tryed cream last weekend there ok not great at all as there is barely anything in them but there was 5 or 6 girls working in a donuts shop and you don't make your own donuts ?. Tell me where the profit is in that business ?.

How much are the donuts? 3 Euro maybe. What do you think those cost to make? I'd be surprised if it's as high as 50 cent. So say that gives you a target of 4 per hour just to cover one staff member for their time.

I'm always fascinated by these fads and how rapidly these businesses can expand. Whoever is financing these expansions must know that it ain't sustainable in even the medium term.

ongarboy

Donuts to me seem like an occasional treat you wouldn't feel like consuming every day unlike coffee or sandwiches etc. I do wonder how sustainable these businesses are in the long term. I think a lot of people see these start ups in vogue businesses with queues outside the door in the first few weeks because of the novelty and think "I can do that" and it generates copy cat businesses until they all cannibalise each other's trade to all become loss making.  (Burrito bars, smoothie bars, multi flavour milkshake shops all seem to have had similar copy cat trends).  Fair dues if they succeed.

D'Agger

The only way this growth can be sustained is with the legalisation of cannabis

the beer revolu

D'Agger wrote: »

The only way this growth can be sustained is with the legalisation of cannabis

Or a huge increase in an Gardaí!

JP Liz V1

Home Sense opened today in Capitol Cinema Complex

satanta99

Work has begun on the old Boardwalk bar next to the Clarion/Clayton Hotel.

Looks like is will be a Mexican Bar and Restaurant called Tequila Jacks.



https://www.facebook.com/TequilaJacksBar/

TrustedApple

Was out walking the other day and seen that the new lidl up in churchfield the units they built in front have put in planing to open a costa in it and being honest i think its great as there is really notting on that part of the city to sit down and have a coffee and i am looking hoping it gets planing now.

freshpopcorn

I think it was mentioned earlier in the thread that Dealz was opening in Douglas Village. It appears now it's opening in Douglas Court. They had interviews a few weeks ago.

JP Liz V1

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I think it was mentioned earlier in the thread that Dealz was opening in Douglas Village. It appears now it's opening in Douglas Court. They had interviews a few weeks ago.

It is opening tomorrow

freshpopcorn

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

It is opening tomorrow

Thanks, I might have a look someday if I'm around!

freshpopcorn

Newbridge Silverware are opening a store in Mahon Point in mid August!

SouthernBelle

I heard a whisper that the recently closed JD Gatleys (formerly Sams Bar) in Ballincollig is being re-opened. Hope it's correct!

bizz213

Starbucks opening on Southmall/parliment bridge where old Java Juice bar is. Across 2 buildings by looks of it. Possibly upstairs as well

TrustedApple

bizz213 wrote: »

Starbucks opening on Southmall/parliment bridge where old Java Juice bar is. Across 2 buildings by looks of it. Possibly upstairs as well

Stop after they are told to close down on Patrick's st will they ever give up ?.

who_me

bizz213 wrote: »

Starbucks opening on Southmall/parliment bridge where old Java Juice bar is. Across 2 buildings by looks of it. Possibly upstairs as well

Not a fan of Starbucks but great to see that corner building finally being renovated ('reassembled' might be more accurate!)

undertaker fan 88

Where you hear that it's opening there?? I work in Starbucks and this is news to me

mire

undertaker fan 88 wrote: »

Where you hear that it's opening there?? I work in Starbucks and this is news to me

It's probably because the building doesn't have planning permission for a cafe use and one would have to assume that only Starbucks would Deliberately flout the laws of the land When it comes to opening new businesses in the city.

Dbu

bizz213 wrote: »

Starbucks opening on Southmall/parliment bridge where old Java Juice bar is. Across 2 buildings by looks of it. Possibly upstairs as well

This fact or a rumour? Have genuine reason for asking

bizz213

I believe it to be Fact. 2 different people from different environments confirmed for me today. A Builder & An auctioneer. Both involved in it.

Also if you look at it they are giving it an exposed look at the moment, red brick outside etc, and inside the seem to be opening up with access to an upstairs area too.

Dbu

bizz213 wrote: »

I believe it to be Fact. 2 different people from different environments confirmed for me today. A Builder & An auctioneer. Both involved in it.

Also if you look at it they are giving it an exposed look at the moment, red brick outside etc, and inside the seem to be opening up with access to an upstairs area too.

Cheers, thank you

ongarboy

TrustedApple wrote: »

bizz213 wrote: »

Starbucks opening on Southmall/parliment bridge where old Java Juice bar is. Across 2 buildings by looks of it. Possibly upstairs as well

Stop after they are told to close down on Patrick's st will they ever give up ?.

Apparently Caffe Nero have been refused permission by the council to open on Patrick Street also in a unit on the north side of Patrick Street because the council want to attract more "high end" retailers.  Are they waiting for Gucci or Armani to come to Cork?? They'll be waiting!.  I agree there shouldn't be an abundance of one type of retailer on Cork's premier street (proliferation of mobile phone shops and Spar/Centra shops almost destroyed Grafton St in Dublin) but if it means long vacant units continue to remain vacant for years to come, I'd rather a coffee shop that gives an ambience (outdoor seating/late opening etc).

DylanGLC

It is clearly popular so I have no problem with one opening there. I don't go to Starbucks but a lot of people cleary must or else they wouldn't be opening so many. That area also badly needed new life, especially that building

KCAccidental

DylanGLC wrote: »

It is clearly popular so I have no problem with one opening there. I don't go to Starbucks but a lot of people cleary must or else they wouldn't be opening so many. That area also badly needed new life, especially that building

Problem is Starbucks can afford to play the long game against independent Cafes. It's why they open so many outlets in a small area. Oversaturate the market to pressure the competition and then close the superfluous branches when they have destroyed the competition.

"There have been other, more brazen ways in which Starbucks has used its size and deep pockets to its competitive advantage. Until the practice began creating controversy a few years back, Starbucks' real-estate strategy was to stake out a popular independent cafn a well-trafficked, funky location and simply poach the lease from under it."



"A Comforting Third Place" is the phrase Starbucks uses to promote itself in its newsletters and evangelical annual reports. This is not just another non-space like Wal-Mart or McDonalds, it's an intimate nook where sophisticated people can share "coffee... community... camaraderie... connection."

Everything about New Age chains like Starbucks is designed to assure us that they are a different breed from the strip-mall franchises of yesterday. This isn't dreck for the masses, it's intelligent furniture, it's cosmetics as political activism, it's the bookstore as an "old-world library",' it's the coffee shop that wants to stare deep into your eyes and "connect."

But there's a catch. The need for more intimate spaces designed to tempt people to linger may indeed provide a powerful counterpoint to the cavernous big boxes, but these two retail trends are not as far apart as they appear at first. For instance, the mechanics of Starbucks' dizzying expansion during the past thirteen years has more in common with Wal-Mart's plan for global domination than the brand managers at the folksy coffee chain like to admit. Rather than dropping an enormous big box on the edge of town, Starbucks' policy is to drop "clusters" of outlets in urban areas already dotted with cafes and espresso bars. This strategy relies just as heavily on an economy of scale as Wal-Mart's does and the effect on competition is much the same. Since Starbucks is explicit about its desire to enter markets only where it can "become the leading retailer and brand of coffee," the company has concentrated its store-a-day growth in relatively few areas. Instead of opening a few stores in every city in the world, or even in North America, Starbucks waits until it can blitz an entire area and spread, to quote Globe and Mail columnist John Barber, "like head lice through a kindergarten." It's a highly aggressive strategy, and it involves something the company calls "cannibalization."

The idea is to saturate an area with stores until the coffee competition is so fierce that sales drop even in individual Starbucks outlets.

In 1993, for instance, when Starbucks had just 275 outlets concentrated in a few U.S. states, per-store sales increased by 19 percent from the previous year. By 1994, store sales growth was only 9 percent, in 1996 it dipped to 7 percent, and in 1997 Starbucks saw only a 5 percent sales growth; in new stores, it was as low as 3 percent. (See Table 6.3, Appendix, page 473).

Understandably, the closer the outlets get to each other, the more they begin to poach or "cannibalize" each other's clientele—even in hyper-caffeinated cities like Seattle and Vancouver people can only suck back so many lattes before they float into the Pacific.

Starbucks' 1995 annual report explains: "As part of its expansion strategy of clustering store in existing markets, Starbucks has experienced a certain level of cannibalization of existing stores by new stores as the store concentration has increased, but management believes such cannibalization has been justified by the incremental sales and return on new store investment." What that means is that while sale were slowing at individual stores, the total sales of all the chain's stores combined continued to rise—doubling, in fact, between 1995 and 1997. Put another way, Starbucks the company was expanding its market while its individual outlets were losing market share, largely to other Starbucks outlets (see Table 6.4, Appendix, page 473).

It also helped Starbucks, no doubt, that its cannibalization strategy preys not only on other Starbucks outlets but equally on its real competitors, independently run coffee shops and restaurants. And, unlike Starbucks, these lone businesses can only profit from one store at a time. The bottom line is that clustering, like big-boxing, is a competitive retail strategy that is only an option for a large chain that can afford to take a beating on individual store in order to reap a larger, long-term branding goal. It also explains why critics usually claim that companies like Starbucks' are preying on small businesses, while the chains themselves deny it, admitting only that they are expanding and creating new markets for their products. Both are true, but the chains' aggressive strategy of market expansion has the added bonus of simultaneously taking out competitors.

No Logo, Naomi Klein

opus

Anyone know what's being built in the carpark off Grattan St? It's been closed for a few months now.

mire

opus wrote: »

Anyone know what's being built in the carpark off Grattan St? It's been closed for a few months now.

It has a planning permission for an extension to the Women's Refuge but as far as I know it is currently being used as a works depot for some of the road works going on in the city centre

Gamb!t

Whats being built near French Connection on St Patrick street ?

who_me

Gamb!t wrote: »

Whats being built near French Connection on St Patrick street ?

The 3 buildings that housed Gloria Jeans, the Body Shop and the building to the West were being merged into one. I don't know if they have tenants yet.

ofcork

I see the old frank clarks building on sharman Crawford st is being demolished too.

satanta99

Smiggle, an Austrialian retailer who say they sell "colourful, fun and fashion-forward stationery" :):D is recruiting for a new Cork store.

http://careers.smiggle.com/smiggle/en/job/642110/retail-store-manager-new-store-coming-soon-cork

freshpopcorn

satanta99 wrote: »

Smiggle, an Austrialian retailer who say they sell "colourful, fun and fashion-forward stationery" :):D is recruiting for a new Cork store.

http://careers.smiggle.com/smiggle/en/job/642110/retail-store-manager-new-store-coming-soon-cork

I think one of these opened in Dundrum earlier in the year. It's a bit like Easons I think.

DylanGLC

satanta99 wrote: »

Smiggle, an Austrialian retailer who say they sell "colourful, fun and fashion-forward stationery" :):D is recruiting for a new Cork store.

http://careers.smiggle.com/smiggle/en/job/642110/retail-store-manager-new-store-coming-soon-cork

I wonder where the two stores will be. I was thinking Mahon Point/Douglas/Blackpool, but maybe one for downtown (like Claire on Patrick's Street) judging off this from an article in the Irish Independent.

"Mr Cheston said that although rents are high at Dundrum Town Centre, it also benefits from high footfall and gives the brand exposure here.

"We're not afraid to pay the rents that go with the best locations,""

satanta99

I'd say one in City Centre and one in either Mahon Point or Wilton.

You would think they would try to capitalise on the back-to-school stationary market and try and be open before the end of August.

TrustedApple

I don't think there is any free units in Mahon Point there all more or less rented out at this moment in time.

Speaking of it I am shocked they have not tryed to get planing to build a few more shops on to it at this stage as I am there every single day and it is a busy shopping centre as all the shops all ways seem to have someone in them buying something.

As it would not be that hard to build on to at all thanks to it being a box you can add in quite a few areas

freshpopcorn

TrustedApple wrote: »

I don't think there is any free units in Mahon Point there all more or less rented out at this moment in time.

I was questioning Mahon as well. I know Newbridge are opening a store. This might be where the credit union was. Apart from that there's the unit where Poco jeans opened. This is only a pop up shop to the best of my knowledge.

satanta99

TrustedApple wrote: »

I don't think there is any free units in Mahon Point there all more or less rented out at this moment in time.

Speaking of it I am shocked they have not tryed to get planing to build a few more shops on to it at this stage as I am there every single day and it is a busy shopping centre as all the shops all ways seem to have someone in them buying something.

As it would not be that hard to build on to at all thanks to it being a box you can add in quite a few areas

The current Metropolitan Cork Joint Retail strategy stipulates that no further significant expansion of comparison floorspace in Mahon is envisaged over the lifetime of the strategy

http://www.corkcitydevelopmentplan.ie/images/Downloads/Metropolitan_Cork_Joint_Retail_Strategy_2015.pdf

Any expansion at Mahon Point will more than likely be mixed use, in an attempt to re-inforce the role it plays as a district centre.

The ultimate aim of the Joint Retail Strategy is to keep the City Centre as the tier 1 retail location and ensure that retail development outside the core is split more evenly between the north and south side of the city.