This Fawning Of Rugby

ThisRegard

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I can't tell if this is meant to be an unpopular opinion intended to stir shyte, or if it really is evidence of someone who is simply ill-informed.

Either way, the whole thing is just wrong, on so many levels.

He's just trolling for thanks.

It's his modus operandi. If he doesn't get the reaction he wants he never comes back to comment in his own thread.

The Backwards Man

DanielODonnell wrote: »

and Dave Gallaher was Presbyterian and a member of the British crowns military.

And what? Never heard anybody around here disowning him.

suicide_circus

RayM wrote: »

I dislike rugby as much as most other Irish people disliked it before the Ireland rugby team became successful. It must be a bit annoying to be an actual rugby fan (i.e. someone who didn't just latch onto it when the Ireland rugby team started winning and the soccer team went a bit crap) and having to pay more to go to matches, for the privilege of being surrounded by people who don't know the rules, but YAY COYBIG!!1

When was the cut-off point? I'd like to know if I made it as a real fan or I'm just a bandwagoner

RayM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Always was and is known as a protestant sport in the country.

In fairness, this is true. Listen carefully during today's match and all you'll hear is "Down with rosary beads!" and "Shove your transubstantiation up your arse!"

Stheno

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Take a look at the crowds that attend these rugby matches, middle class west brits who i bet never went to a Gaa match in there life.
And then the media making out everyone will be glued to it, yeah maybe in D4 land but most of the country dont give a toss nor want to hearabout it everyday.

You do know that:

1.viewing figures for last week's match against Italy are higher than the GAA final and,
2. The biggest ever crowd to attend a rugby wc game was our match in Wembley?

BBDBB

RayM wrote: »

In fairness, this is true. Listen carefully during today's match and all you'll hear is "Down with rosary beads!" and "Shove your transubstantiation up your arse!"

That would be an ecumenical matter

DanielODonnell

The Backwards Man wrote: »

And what? Never heard anybody around here disowning him.

That is because Donegals conflict ended in the 1920s and there is no serious religious/cultural segregation.

BoJack Horseman

Stheno wrote: »

You do know that:

1.viewing figures for last week's match against Italy are higher than the GAA final and,
2. The biggest ever crowd to attend a rugby game was our match in Twickenham?

Wembley.

Biggest WC attendance

endacl

RayM wrote: »

In fairness, this is true. Listen carefully during today's match and all you'll hear is "Down with rosary beads!" and "Shove your transubstantiation up your arse!"

Other way round, dude.

The Backwards Man

I was going to watch the North's last game (I'm more a soccer man) but I'm turning on TV 3 now to spite you

Stheno

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Wembley.

Biggest WC attendance

Thanks, forgot twas wembley

The Backwards Man

endacl wrote: »

Other way round, dude.

He's right, the other is consubstantiation.

Oh, you mean not up your bum?

eeguy

eeguy wrote: »

Elitist?

The Irish team that played against Italy had represented 11 counties of the island of Ireland. Much more representative of the country than football.

And unlike soccer, where you have to travel to England to see top Irish players compete at club level, you can travel to the RDS or Thomond park every week to watch the Irish rugby team play at club level.

No one watches Irish rugby at proper club level, I'm surrounded by Munster fans who became "diehard" rugby followers a decade ago but would be hard pressed to name the club team topping the AIL. A lot of the support seems to lack much depth, the female supporters being particularly clueless because for them it seems to be about cooing over "Bods" marriage or how good looking the Kearney guy is.

RayM

suicide_circus wrote: »

When was the cut-off point? I'd like to know if I made it as a real fan or I'm just a bandwagoner

Saipan.

Dial Hard

Stheno wrote:

You do know that:

Stheno wrote:

2. The biggest ever crowd to attend a rugby wc game was our match in Wembley?

West Brit proddies, all 90-odd-thousand of them.

Or something.

blueser

What I can't understand is that Irish Times ad saying that the RWC is the biggest sporting event of the year. I think the Athletics World Championship might have something to say about that.

NachoBusiness

NachoBusiness wrote: »

If someone falls over in Dundrum Shopping Centre when there's a rugby match on, does anyone hear it?

There is nothing more gas than wearing a Munster jersey in the Dundrum Shopping Centre. Those lads are just...gas...

Slattsy

Its only a social occasion in this country.
I'd have much more respect for Welsh, English and Scottish supporters.

InTheTrees

Well I'm going to be watching Ireland play France in about half and hour and then Ireland play Poland later on.

DEFTLEFTHAND

blueser wrote: »

What I can't understand is that Irish Times ad saying that the RWC is the biggest sporting event of the year. I think the Athletics World Championship might have something to say about that.

I'd say the rugby will have higher attendances and viewing figures. For instance I read that 20 million Japanese people watched their game against Samoa.

Duckworth_Luas

blueser wrote: »

What I can't understand is that Irish Times ad saying that the RWC is the biggest sporting event of the year. I think the Athletics World Championship might have something to say about that.

I like to go to pubs when the rugger is on and shout "hands in the ruck", "in from the side", "off his feet ref" at the screen.

Nobody shouts at the TV when athletics is on.

Which France will turn up today I wonder?

Stheno

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I'd say the rugby will have higher attendances and viewing figures. For instance I read that 20 million Japanese people watched their game against Samoa.

25 million apparently!

The Backwards Man

Stheno wrote: »

25 million apparently!

East Brits!

theteal

Must not dignify thread with proper response. . .








. . .I'm off down to the pub to enjoy a day of Irish sport with all my elitist economic migrant friends from all over the country (even Roscommon!)

George Hook admits that football is the game of the people, rugby is really a sport for fee paying schools...

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/george-hook-soccer-is-the-game-of-the-people-in-ireland-not-rugby-31599830.html

mudstack

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Not one person i know over the age of 40 in the countryside supports this sport, perhaps because they were brought up with the history of the english landlord class in this country.
Seems a shame in the cities some people forget there history and turn into west brits.

That's crap, I'm not a major fan of rugby myself but know plenty over 40 years of age that follow it avidly and indeed many played it themselves. Most of them are far from elitist. Your opinion seems to be an uninformed one.

crybaby

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

When did this start.
Years ago you never had such a love in by the media for rugby.
To me it has been and always will be a elitest sport, does in no way represent the common man in this country.
The ancestors of many people supporting it today would turn in there graves if they saw there offspring supporting it.

I am very proud to be supporting Ireland today against France. Rugby has been played by myself, my brothers, my cousins, my father and my grandfather and it's something that we will pass down to our children as well. You are no more Irish than my family despite what you seem to believe.

The match kicks off in 20 minutes, go get yourself a beer and have a watch of it and you might be pleasantly surprised or maybe just enjoy all that hatred you have inside of yourself instead?

Dial Hard

Deleted User wrote:

George Hook admits that football is the game of the people, rugby is really a sport for fee paying schools...

Tell that to Sean O'Brien.

George Hook is the Eamonn Dunphy of rugby punditry. Anyone who knows anything about the game knows to tune out 99.99% of what he spouts.

As for the other .01%, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

thegreatgonzo

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Not one person i know over the age of 40 in the countryside supports this sport, perhaps because they were brought up with the history of the english landlord class in this country.
.

Well that's just you because down here in Galway my 85 year old uncle has just told me to put the telly on for the match.

DanielODonnell

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I was going to watch the North's last game (I'm more a soccer man) but I'm turning on TV 3 now to spite you

I don't support Northern Ireland, I am Roman Catholic, only Protestants support them and some upper class Catholics and southerners.

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

George Hook admits that football is the game of the people, rugby is really a sport for fee paying schools...

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/george-hook-soccer-is-the-game-of-the-people-in-ireland-not-rugby-31599830.html

George Hook says a lot of things.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Deleted User wrote: »

George Hook admits that football is the game of the people, rugby is really a sport for fee paying schools...

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/george-hook-soccer-is-the-game-of-the-people-in-ireland-not-rugby-31599830.html

No it's not, I grew up in a small town and played in the Midland League at youth level, none of the boys on my town's teams went to fee paying schools. It was never as popular as GAA or soccer but there was always a decent rugby culture in this country.

ArmaniJeanss

blueser wrote: »

What I can't understand is that Irish Times ad saying that the RWC is the biggest sporting event of the year. I think the Athletics World Championship might have something to say about that.

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I'd say the rugby will have higher attendances and viewing figures. For instance I read that 20 million Japanese people watched their game against Samoa.

Cricket World Cup back in February would likely destroy both for viewing figures. Not that such inaccuracies matter to a newspaper that is just trying to flog copy.

Dial Hard

Dial Hard wrote: »

As for the other .01%, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Well what he says about soccer being the sport of the people is right, so he's due to get one other thing right today...

DanielODonnell

What is the story with the flag caper on top of the stands, the france flag, irish tricolour and then the yellow Ulster flag, is the province of Ulster a separate nation or team? Donegal, Monaghan and Cavan are represented twice.

ArmaniJeanss

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Cricket World Cup back in February would likely destroy both for viewing figures. Not that such inaccuracies matter to a newspaper that is just trying to flog copy.

One billion tuned into the India Pakistan clash.

I suspect that mops the floor with pretty much anything else.

Dial Hard

Deleted User wrote:

Well what he says about soccer being the sport of the people is right, so he's due to get one other thing right today...

Which people?

Duckworth_Luas

DanielODonnell wrote: »

What is the story with the flag caper on top of the stands, the france flag, irish tricolour and then the yellow Ulster flag, is the province of Ulster a separate nation or team?

It represents the Irish players who do not come from the Republic. Northern Ireland does not have an official flag, so the flag of Ulster is used.

I believe some of them are protestants! :eek:

JohnnyChimpo

My aul fella is a massive bogger and 70 years old and he played club rugby and loves the sport. This is a confusing thread. Funny that we got to page 6 though, the boredom of a Sunday I spose

Dial Hard

DanielODonnell wrote:

What is the story with the flag caper on top of the stands, the france flag, irish tricolour and then the yellow Ulster flag, is the province of Ulster a separate nation or team? Donegal, Monaghan and Cavan are represented twice.

Lucky them.

Pinch Flat

I come from very modest upbringing - far from elitist. I went to a primary and secondary school where even soccer was banned - it was gaa or nothing. I have always loved watching rugby (never played) from an early age - Olly Campbell in the triple crown 1982 was one of my earliest memories - and I still love watching it.

Dial Hard

Duckworth_Luas wrote:

I believe some of them are protestants!

They all are, according to Jonjo. All the supporters too.

DanielODonnell

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

It represents the Irish players who do not come from the Republic. Northern Ireland does not have an official flag, so the flag of Ulster is used.

I believe some of them are protestants! :eek:

would a green flag with a shamrock on it not do the job for the island? plus the ulster yellow flag is viewed as a nationalist flag here.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

It represents the Irish players who do not come from the Republic. Northern Ireland does not have an official flag, so the flag of Ulster is used.

I believe some of them are protestants! :eek:

Is that hybrid St George cross that they use not their official flag?

dfx-

Who cares about the elite-ness, it's not just as great a sport as people think. Certainly not as noble as some think.

But ultimately everyone will be playing the World Cup now for weeks with a draw made years ago, all waiting for New Zealand to win it..like the last one

tayto lover

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

When did this start.
Years ago you never had such a love in by the media for rugby.
To me it has been and always will be a elitest sport, does in no way represent the common man in this country.
The ancestors of many people supporting it today would turn in there graves if they saw there offspring supporting it.

No National Anthem either OP.

Duckworth_Luas

Wonderful rendition of Ireland's Call there by Catholics, protestants and even well known Rastafarian Keith Earls.

DanielODonnell

no only the union fleg is official, thon thing is just for the n.ireland soccer team, the red hand shouldn't be on a loyalist fleg anyway

Very Bored

The lack of media interest in the past was directly due to the c**pness of Irish teams at that time just as the media love in these days is due to the success of same.

December2012

So Olé olé olé was being sung by elitests then?