2 dead including Garda following shooting Omeath Co Louth

efb

davycc wrote: »

Of course not l am disgusted with his murder too as well as Garda Donoghue last time

I glad we agree Det Garda McCabe was murdered

davycc

efb wrote: »

Gerryput himself front and centre of this tragedy

By offering his condolences to a poor guard killed in his constituency again by dissidents' who hate Gerry and SF for signing up for peace,

Some how you equate this to Gerry putting himself front and centre?

efb

davycc wrote: »

By offering his condolences to a poor guard killed in his constituency again by dissidents' who hate Gerry and SF for signing up for peace,

Some how you equate this to Gerry putting himself front and centre?

I notice Gerry's condolences were to all killed in the tragedy

Smidge

I dont even........

With the poor people in Carrickmines, the homeless chap and now this.
Tragic few days for lives lost, be they traveller, Guard, baby or someone who for whatever reason someone who found themselves with nothing but a doorway for solace.
All PEOPLE. All flesh and bones as you or I.

Shame. Vast shame on anyone to make a soapbox on any of these tragedies.

For those making an IRA/Dissident thing of this latest loss, for shame.
It makes no nevermind what he was before he turned the gun on his fellow man.
He was not doing this as a "dissident" act. He shot HIS PARTNER!!
That's an act of domestic violence, which ended in her murder.
And when he turned the gun on the Guard, an act of murder.
Nothing more, nothing less.

I wonder how some folks carry their axes...surely they are far to big to grind. If they had any sense at all they would lay them down.

davycc

efb wrote: »

I notice Gerry's condolences were to all killed in the tragedy

The monster! Have you any comment on Frances FitzGerald's statement. Both TDs .
She must be putting herself front and centre in your eyes too along with Noreen o Sullivan and the president of the country and the gra and the ags offering there condolences , along with the dozens' of reps who all condemned the killings .

pretty hypocritical for you to single out one statement from Gerry.

The same dissidents attempt to blow up Gerry Adams house and kill him on a near annual basis as they see him and SF as their enemies for signing up to the peace process

davycc

Smidge wrote: »

I dont even........

With the poor people in Carrickmines, the homeless chap and now this.
Tragic few days for lives lost, be they traveller, Guard, baby or someone who for whatever reason someone who found themselves with nothing but a doorway for solace.
All PEOPLE. All flesh and bones as you or I.

Shame. Vast shame on anyone to make a soapbox on any of these tragedies.

For those making an IRA/Dissident thing of this latest loss, for shame.
It makes no nevermind what he was before he turned the gun on his fellow man.
He was not doing this as a "dissident" act. He shot HIS PARTNER!!
That's an act of domestic violence, which ended in her murder.
And when he turned the gun on the Guard, an act of murder.
Nothing more, nothing less.

I wonder how some folks carry their axes...surely they are far to big to grind. If they had any sense at all they would lay them down.

Spot on post! Been a terrible weekend for all our emergency services and certain posters here in this thread are of the enda Kenny mindset"never let a good tragedy go to waste"

efb

davycc wrote: »

The monster! Have you any comment on Frances FitzGerald's statement. Both TDs .
She must be putting herself front and centre in your eyes too along with Noreen o Sullivan and the president of the country and the gra and the ags offering there condolences , along with the dozens' of reps who all condemned the killings .

pretty hypocritical for you to single out one statement from Gerry.

The same dissidents attempt to blow up Gerry Adams house and kill him on a near annual basis as they see him and SF as their enemies for signing up to the peace process

Fitzgerald is the minister for justice ergo responsible for the Garda Siochana
Noreen is head of the Force

Both reflected on the death of a Garda in the line of duty

I don't know who:what Gerry is in charge of

Smidge

davycc wrote: »

Spot on post! Been a terrible weekend for all our emergency services and certain posters here in this thread are of the enda Kenny mindset"never let a good tragedy go to waste"

I'm going to be honest davy...
What I read here and elsewhere about all of this has made sick and sad for our society.
Ireland. Aren't we a great little isle?
Backstabbing and gutting when people are at their lowest.

Posts about "few less travellers/less crime" "few less homeless/less drain on society" "Man shots wife and member of AGS and others/dissident republican act/what do you expect"

Makes you really think about what we are as a people.
If all of those people in the halting site died in a house fire in an affluent suburb, we would have a different story.
If the homeless man wasn't nameless and on the streets, different story.
If the man who shot those people was from a different organisation(any organisation, take your pick, Labour Party, Isis, what bloody ever) again, different bitching.

We have come too far in the wrong direction imo.
The callousness disgusts me.

efb

All except the murderer were innocent victims- I don't get your point tbh

BoatMad

For those making an IRA/Dissident thing of this latest loss, for shame.
It makes no nevermind what he was before he turned the gun on his fellow man.
He was not doing this as a "dissident" act. He shot HIS PARTNER!!
That's an act of domestic violence, which ended in her murder.
And when he turned the gun on the Guard, an act of murder.
Nothing more, nothing less.

OK , was that a legally held firearm then , or just where did he get it. ?? ( hint dissident republican movement )

Special Circumstances

RIP to the Garda, hope the woman recovers.

As for the antics of of some posters? Wow.
Cultist denial of the truth?
Childish naivety?
Organised attempt to spin, divert and minimise?

Galwayguy35

RIP to the Garda who leaves a wife and young children behind.

Some horrible comments on FB from a few of the anti water crowd.

ireland.man

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Some horrible comments on FB from a few of the anti water crowd.

Who's saying what?

Niaveee

So sad what has happened over the weekend.

I can't understand why the house wasn't checked first before returning.

The woman went to Gardai and expressed her fear that her partner may kill her. It must have been disclosed that he had possession of a weapon. He escorted her back to the house alone, the woman walks in first followed by the Garda and are both shot.

It's such an awful tragedy but am I in wrong in thinking this domestic issue should have been handled with more care.

my friend

Filthy ra shinner land

One of Gerry's boys

Royal Irish

In my opinion it should have been handled with more care. He was out on bail for membership of an illegal organization so it shouldn't of been treated as a normal domestic dispute.

Ayls

my friend wrote: »

Filthy ra shinner land

One of Gerry's boys

He was NOT one of Gerry's boys. Why are some people have such great difficulty understanding quite basic stuff. I doubt he could even spell the word ideology let alone believe in any. He was a low life scum bag criminal who would have attached his name to any gang going, he was everything Gerry wanted rid off and has NOTHING to do with.

There's plenty of filthy land in the North.

If it is correct that she walked to the guard station and reported her fear he was going to kill her (and not for the first time) then perhaps domestic violence policy needs to be looked at. At that moment she was safe, no one guard should be left in the position of attending a volatile situation on their own.

Barely There

Another example of the kind of scumbags the 'Republican' movement attracts.

Little CuChulainn

Royal Irish wrote: »

In my opinion it should have been handled with more care. He was out on bail for membership of an illegal organization so it shouldn't of been treated as a normal domestic dispute.

What would you have done differently yourself?

pmasterson95

Thats nice. A garda dead and people decide to make it into a "ra" "shinner" ****fest of a thread. Never miss a chance eh?

ireland.man

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Thats nice. A garda dead and people decide to make it into a "ra" "shinner" ****fest of a thread. Never miss a chance eh?

Somebody managed to attack anti-Irish Water protesters too somehow.

JustTheOne

Hearing he had huge mental issues and was even isolated from his "comrades" in prison by them if that's what you would call them.

Shouldn't have been out on bail if reports of how bad his issues were.

sadie06

We stopped in Omeath this summer and it is such a small, tranquil village. I cannot imagine the despair people are feeling right now.

The poor family, his wife and children. It is so very sad.

Strumms

Niaveee wrote: »

So sad what has happened over the weekend.

I can't understand why the house wasn't checked first before returning.

The woman went to Gardai and expressed her fear that her partner may kill her. It must have been disclosed that he had possession of a weapon. He escorted her back to the house alone, the woman walks in first followed by the Garda and are both shot.

It's such an awful tragedy but am I in wrong in thinking this domestic issue should have been handled with more care.

All reasonable questions which I'm sure will be answered in the fullness of time I guess. Have to say that was also one of the first thing that came to mind when I say no mention of a colleague.... Woman in fear for her life... Dissident republican known to Gardai... One may speculate that it may have been more appropriate for the woman to remain in safety at the station until there were a couple of armed members available to make a call to the home in advance given what was known of this individual.

Either way a terrible tragedy

ED E

Strumms wrote: »

All reasonable questions which I'm sure will be answered in the fullness of time I guess. Have to say that was also one of the first thing that came to mind when I say no mention of a colleague.... Woman in fear for her life... Dissident republican known to Gardai... One may speculate that it may have been more appropriate for the woman to remain in safety at the station until there were a couple of armed members available to make a call to the home in advance given what was known of this individual.

Either way a terrible tragedy

There have to be hundreds of domestics involving shady/scummy lads in small villages on a yearly basis. Most we'd never hear about, this is the exception. Its just not practical to rope in ERU teams every time they visit a scumbag. Unfortunately looking at things at a macro level I doubt there is much that could be done differently.

AudreyHepburn

RIP Garda Golden and condolences to his family, friends and colleagues.

I've said it before and I'll say it again....our Gardai need to be armed if they are going to be dealing with the dregs of society who have no qualms about who they hurt or kill.

The awful thing is that no matter how many brave Gardai risk their lives on the job, no matter how of them pay the ultimate price for protecting and serving us, there are still those will think it's acceptable to disrespect them and insist they are nothing but lazy useless ignorant thugs.

Our Gardai do a tough job and they deserve our support and respect.

Strumms

ED E wrote: »

There have to be hundreds of domestics involving shady/scummy lads in small villages on a yearly basis. Most we'd never hear about, this is the exception. Its just not practical to rope in ERU teams every time they visit a scumbag. Unfortunately looking at things at a macro level I doubt there is much that could be done differently.

I think in this context we are dealing with a little more then your average scumbag who just looses it with his woman after a few too many Dutch gold in fairness.

ED E

Strumms wrote: »

I think in this context we are dealing with a little more then your average scumbag who just looses it with his woman after a few too many Dutch gold in fairness.

From what I can see he had no convictions and was out on bail for six moths, if I was a guard going in without hindsight I'd be far more worried about the scobe with three convictions for GBH.

JustTheOne

Strumms wrote: »

I think in this context we are dealing with a little more then your average scumbag who just looses it with his woman after a few too many Dutch gold in fairness.

He shot himself. Do you not think he had huge mental issues also?

Royal Irish

ED E wrote: »

From what I can see he had no convictions and was out on bail for six moths, if I was a guard going in without hindsight I'd be far more worried about the scobe with three convictions for GBH.

He was out on bail for membership of a terrorist organization. I doubt there would be hundreds of cases of domestic abuse each year from people like that. Surely there most be only a handful of people before the courts each year for that charge.

JustTheOne wrote: »

He shot himself. Do you not think he had huge mental issues also?

What?