Tipperary GAA (Club and intercounty) Discussion thread 2016

Mantis Toboggan

realdanbreen wrote: »

The bottom line is we have won 4 all Irelands in over 30 years.
That to me is not good enough. I'll put it this way, if Cody was in charge of us for the last ten or twelve years I believe he would have got more out of us.
We lose too many close games end of story.

We do, but what's the solution?

OAOB

realdanbreen wrote: »

The bottom line is we have won 4 all Irelands in over 30 years.
That to me is not good enough. I'll put it this way, if Cody was in charge of us for the last ten or twelve years I believe he would have got more out of us.
We lose too many close games end of story.

Couldn't agree more but we play the hand we're dealt and we haven't Cody. Sheedy gave us every opportunity to go ahead of them but we couldn't take it for a number of different reasons.

What i don't like is the idea of us being afraid of losing so we'd rather not play.

The Lost Sheep

Minor footballers lost 1-14 to 1-11 tonight to Cork
They play Limerick next week. If they win that they play Waterford and If they win that they qualify for semis and will play Cork

Mantis Toboggan

Minor footballers lost again by 6 points to Limerick in Thurles.

Tyson Fury

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Minor footballers lost again by 6 points to Limerick in Thurles.

Disappointing. Alot of first year panellists though so id imagine the experience will do them good

realdanbreen

Maybe I'm a bit slow but what way is the county draw this year.EG Borrisokane lost to Loughmore but beat Knockavilla kickhams so are they in the county championship at this stage?

Paddico

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Minor footballers lost again by 6 points to Limerick in Thurles.

Add your reply here.

Its been a long time since Tipp minors lost to Limerick, Clare or Waterford.
Disappointing year for underage football in Tipp

Paddico

Paddico wrote: »

Add your reply here.

Its been a long time since Tipp minors lost to Limerick, Clare or Waterford.
Disappointing year for underage football in Tipp

A relatively young side id imagine minus the likes of Brian Mcgrath. Wouldnt write them off yet. This year will stand to them

realdanbreen

realdanbreen wrote: »

Maybe I'm a bit slow but what way is the county draw this year.EG Borrisokane lost to Loughmore but beat Knockavilla kickhams so are they in the county championship at this stage?

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danganabu

realdanbreen wrote: »

Maybe I'm a bit slow but what way is the county draw this year.EG Borrisokane lost to Loughmore but beat Knockavilla kickhams so are they in the county championship at this stage?

Borris are in Roinn II so only one team comes out of the group, Borris can't qualify as even if Knockavilla beat Loughmore (:-) I know) it would leave all three on 2 points meaning score difference would come in to it and there is no possible scenario that Borris could finish on top.

On the same score Borris cannot be relegated as they cant finish bottom of the group, I think! Firstly Knockavilla wont beat Loughmore and I'm not sure of the current score differences but I don't think there is any scenario where Borris could be bottom.

But to answer your main question, yes Borris are still in the county championship as are all 30 teams as the divisional winners will re-enter the county Championship. Borris have a bye in the first round of the North if I remember correctly, so are straight into a North QF.

realdanbreen

Forget about your Kilkenny and Clare rivalry's ,the real enemy,the historical enemy, the blood & bandage, come to town on Sunday week! It's time to get revved up and be ready for them! I hate losing to anyone but having it rubbed in by someone with a Cork accent !

realdanbreen

realdanbreen wrote: »

Forget about your Kilkenny and Clare rivalry's ,the real enemy,the historical enemy, the blood & bandage, come to town on Sunday week! It's time to get revved up and be ready for them! I hate losing to anyone but having it rubbed in by someone with a Cork accent !

I can sense the usual 'ah shur we'll win this one handy' in the Tipp supporters already! :mad:

Mantis Toboggan

realdanbreen wrote: »

I can sense the usual 'ah shur we'll win this one handy' in the Tipp supporters already! :mad:

I think this is the case, it's hard not to think back to the league game when Cork were abysmal. How they stayed in the league is beyond me, great win up in Galway all the same.

Cork will relish coming to Thurles as huge underdogs. Hopefully we won't be complacent and underestimate them.

Ultimately Cork are a bog average side and if we have any notions of going far in this championship then we need to be beating Cork comfortably.

realdanbreen

Tyson Fury wrote: »

I think this is the case, it's hard not to think back to the league game when Cork were abysmal. How they stayed in the league is beyond me, great win up in Galway all the same.

Cork will relish coming to Thurles as huge underdogs. Hopefully we won't be complacent and underestimate them.

Ultimately Cork are a bog average side and if we have any notions of going far in this championship then we need to be beating Cork comfortably.

Fair enough Tyson but we thought the same thing a few years ago in Cork and got whupped.I haven't seen anything in this Tipp team recently to suggest that they should be beating any team comfortably.

Tyson Fury

Tyson Fury wrote: »

I think this is the case, it's hard not to think back to the league game when Cork were abysmal. How they stayed in the league is beyond me, great win up in Galway all the same.

Cork will relish coming to Thurles as huge underdogs. Hopefully we won't be complacent and underestimate them.

Ultimately Cork are a bog average side and if we have any notions of going far in this championship then we need to be beating Cork comfortably.

They might be a better side then we think. They put it right up to Kilkenny and beat Galway in the relegation when they needed to. Approach with caution at the very least

Mantis Toboggan

[Deleted User] wrote: »

They might be a better side then we think. They put it right up to Kilkenny and beat Galway in the relegation when they needed to. Approach with caution at the very least

As I said it's easy to underestimate them and be complacent, but if we don't fall into that trap then we should be beating them especially at home.

Tyson Fury

Tyson Fury wrote: »

As I said it's easy to underestimate them and be complacent, but if we don't fall into that trap then we should be beating them especially at home.

I think we'll win but it will be close. Don't forget they will be smarting from that trimming in Croker we gave them in 2014

marvin80

Good preview here to whet the appetite:

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0512/787877-munster-hurling/

realdanbreen

Who's going to be in goals on Sunday?

realdanbreen

realdanbreen wrote: »

Who's going to be in goals on Sunday?

So I take it that these stories about a goalkeeping issue are false?

GoldFour4

The week of a Munster championship game against Cork and both Tipperary threads are dead. Having two threads has ruined the discussion IMO

digzy

malistheman wrote: »

The week of a Munster championship game against Cork and both Tipperary threads are dead. Having two threads has ruined the discussion IMO

+1

It's the same posters on both........ridiculous

tippspur

I was wondering why this got so quiet,I don't even know where the other thread is.

The Lost Sheep

tippspur wrote: »

I was wondering why this got so quiet,I don't even know where the other thread is.

Its in the GAA forum but it doesnt stay on the first page that often....

realdanbreen

So how are we going to do?

realdanbreen

realdanbreen wrote: »

So how are we going to do?

I think we will win but it will be close. 4-5 points, late rally toward the end. Corks weakness is their defence who have been very loose and generous all year but come championship im not sure they will be that bad tbh.

callaway92

I think it'll be a comfortable win. 6+ points.

Mantis Toboggan

Tipp by more than 5.

OAOB

Honestly i think if we can open a gap to 5 or 6 points we could end up running up a big score on this Cork defence. Our lads love leading from the front and if there's no pressure on them they can play some sublime stuff.

If Cork can keep it close and make a dogfight of it then we could struggle but we need to win a dogfight at some point this year and coming out on top of Cork in one would be extra sweet

GoldFour4

I think we should win comfortable. i'd be wary of Cork though, they'll surely have something up their sleeves after such a dreary league campaign.

malistheman

malistheman wrote: »

I think we should win comfortable. i'd be wary of Cork though, they'll surely have something up their sleeves after such a dreary league campaign.

You read my mind. Kingston is a wily aul fox. He can't blow Tipp up enough.

realdanbreen

malistheman wrote: »

I think we should win comfortable. i'd be wary of Cork though, they'll surely have something up their sleeves after such a dreary league campaign.

Maybe I'm being too wary but I have seen nothing in this Tipp team to suggest that they will win comfortably. Add in the fact that Cork are overdue a good championship performance and they will have seen how putting it up to Tipp works-look at Galway last august, another game we were supposed to win.

Mantis Toboggan

What kind of crowd are we expecting?

realdanbreen

Tyson Fury wrote: »

What kind of crowd are we expecting?

18/19K ?

OAOB

Forecast for sunday is pretty awful, might keep people away

Mantis Toboggan

realdanbreen wrote: »

18/19K ?

Yeah was thinking around that, in the past this would have been nailed on for 30000

primary 2

my team for sunday would be

Glesson

Barrett,Barry,Cahill

Bergin,R Maher,P Maher

Maher Breen

G Ryan,Bonner,Bubbles

J Mcgrath,Callanan,Forde

OAOB

Brave decision starting Curran and McCormack in the half forward line, both have a lot to prove as does Kennedy at half back

solerina

Team has been released.
1 Darren Gleeson
2 Cathal Barrett
3 James Barry
4 Michael Cahill
5 Seamus Kennedy
6 Ronan Maher
7 Paudie Maher
8 Brendan Maher
9 Michael Breen ( copy and paste- didn't read the name)
10 Sean Curran
11 Dan McCormack
12 Noel McGrath
13 John O Dwyer
14 Seamus Callanan
15 John McGrath

Mantis Toboggan

Good to see that we're at least trying to improve the half forward line instead of the same tried and tested players who have proved not to be good enough

realdanbreen

I take it Bonner is injured? What's the story with Jason Forde?

solerina

solerina wrote: »

Team has been released.
1 Darren Gleeson
2 Cathal Barrett
3 James Barry
4 Michael Cahill
5 Seamus Kennedy
6 Ronan Maher
7 Paudie Maher
8 Brendan Maher
9 Michael Brown
10 Sean Curran
11 Dan McCormack
12 Noel McGrath
13 John O Dwyer
14 Seamus Callanan
15 John McGrath

Jeez i was shocked enough with Curran but now we have Michael Brown the former Sheffield United and Tottenham player starting.

tippspur

realdanbreen wrote: »

I take it Bonner is injured? What's the story with Jason Forde?

Both benched for Curran and Mc Cormack.

tippspur

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Good to see that we're at least trying to improve the half forward line instead of the same tried and tested players who have proved not to be good enough

Is it an improvement though?I'm not so sure.

Mantis Toboggan

tippspur wrote: »

Is it an improvement though?I'm not so sure.

Who knows, but a change was needed

OAOB

I've no problem with the team, we haven't a clue who's going well in training and matches. I'd have my own doubts about McCormack already but i haven't seen Curran or Kennedy hurl too much

What it does mean is our bench is stocked with difference makers. Bonnar coming on on with 20 mins to go will be a nightmare for a defender

1eg0a3xv7b82of

the whole county has complained about our midfield and centre forward line for the last 3 or 4 years so change is good. will it work we dont know but what was being selected was not working.

I like Ryans selection, shows he is not afraid to make decisions.
Our real weakness on Sunday is not the new players, its our inconsistency.
If Ryan can solve that issue we can win all irelands.

Mantis Toboggan

Camdyn Curved Spit wrote: »

the whole county has complained about our midfield and centre forward line for the last 3 or 4 years so change is good. will it work we dont know but what was being selected was not working.

I like Ryans selection, shows he is not afraid to make decisions.
Our real weakness on Sunday is not the new players, its our inconsistency.
If Ryan can solve that issue we can win all irelands.

Exactly, isn't the definition of stupidity doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results!

Camdyn Curved Spit

Camdyn Curved Spit wrote: »

the whole county has complained about our midfield and centre forward line for the last 3 or 4 years so change is good. will it work we dont know but what was being selected was not working.

I like Ryans selection, shows he is not afraid to make decisions.
Our real weakness on Sunday is not the new players, its our inconsistency.
If Ryan can solve that issue we can win all irelands.

Indeed, perhaps the key to resolving our inconsistency is not to be afraid to freshen things up. I'm not seeing what all the fuss with Dan McCormack is though. Looks well out of his depth

dirtyden

Deleted User wrote: »

Indeed, perhaps the key to resolving our inconsistency is not to be afraid to freshen things up. I'm not seeing what all the fuss with Dan McCormack is though. Looks well out of his depth

I think well out of his depth is a little harsh. I thought he did ok in a number of league games whilst not setting the world on fire. We have had nothing in the half forward line for a few years now so I am all for the shake up.