RTE programme on Pitbulls on tonight

deadlybuzzman

Tonight on reality bites there's a programme on pitbulls. Going by the ad it's about bull breeds in general as in the promo it had all kinds of dogs.
Should be interesting

Knine

deadlybuzzman wrote: »

Tonight on reality bites there's a programme on pitbulls. Going by the ad it's about bull breeds in general as in the promo it had all kinds of dogs.
Should be interesting

Thought that was tomorrow?

deadlybuzzman

Knine wrote: »

Thought that was tomorrow?

Ha! You're right I'm a day ahead of myself I thought today was Thursday! Tomorrow night it is

Hooked

deadlybuzzman wrote: »

Ha! You're right I'm a day ahead of myself I thought today was Thursday! Tomorrow night it is

Starting shortly A&PI peeps

rottie 11

Very good programme. Happy the poor staffie got a loving home. Oh and the 13 rottie were hilarious

deadlybuzzman

Would I be right in guessing the first staffy got taken away because it was a restricted breed but was out loose?

kylith

Shame to see so many dogs with cropped ears, but overall a good programme.

DamagedTrax

good show, felt they could have focused more on the positive activities we do at the various clubs but it could have been a lot worse.

also got the bitch and the beard on the telly :cool:

Hooked

DamagedTrax wrote: »

good show, felt they could have focused more on the positive activities we do at the various clubs but it could have been a lot worse.

also got the bitch and the beard on the telly :

Dolly (and the beard) was spotted alright!


The kid that was attacked by the Husky and Frank Cootes 'opinion' on them was very biased IMO.

That child was old enough to be told by his mother, or at least to know himself, that you don't climb a wall, into a strange garden with a strange dog - to pet it.

Having said that - kids (under parents supervision) repeatedly run at us when out with our two (huskies) to pet the 'fluffy dogs'! I have to sometimes frighten them with a loud 'stop' and tell them not to pet the dogs. Again, some kids don't know the 'correct' way to approach a dog - and the dog is blamed if they do, and there are consequences

Re: Frank Cootes - A lot of the attacks happen in their own home - Of course they bloody do! The dogs are either not exercised, unsupervised or intruded upon.

Rant over.

Those Rotties were stunning. To see so many fine examples of the breed all playing together.

The bull breed owners (as with all RBs) really are paying the price, having to follow such a stupid law.

Restrict the ownership, I say (for all dogs) - not the breed.

cocker5

I watched half of the programme last night,

I got the the stage where the ISPCA guy said something along the lines of "90% of dogs give warning signs before a bite" which they do... then he went to to say after the first bite the parent should get rid of the dog, even if its a snap...

after that i switched off IMO that's creating mass hysteria with the dog uneducated people of Ireland... I sometimes find the closer "some" people work with dogs / animals the less they seem to know or understand about them.

tk123

cocker5 wrote: »

I sometimes find the closer "some" people work with dogs / animals the less they seem to know or understand about them.

+1 EG 'I have 20 years experience training GSDs' usually means choke chains, dominance theory etc etc

kylith

tk123 wrote: »

+1 EG 'I have 20 years experience training GSDs' usually means choke chains, dominance theory etc etc

Yep. There was a shock collar on that dog.

stokesdiva

I thought it was a good show last night that gave good press for dogs on the dangerous list. I have a staff that I adopted at 9wks from shelter if they were that bad why did they leave me take him when I have 4 kids. I research and knew what I was getting just some people ignorant. I had a woman yesterday telling me to muzzel him he's only 4mths old and he's only getting use to it he don't need to wear it properly until 8mths but they were other people in the park with dogs and without leads and nothing said to them. I think the law so unfair. Just the other day I heard a dog just a few miles away attacked a child not on the danger list but nothing said of it either unless it was a dangerous breed. Something should be done about the law it's not the dogs it's the owners.

andreac

stokesdiva wrote: »

I thought it was a good show last night that gave good press for dogs on the dangerous list. I have a staff that I adopted at 9wks from shelter if they were that bad why did they leave me take him when I have 4 kids. I research and knew what I was getting just some people ignorant. I had a woman yesterday telling me to muzzel him he's only 4mths old and he's only getting use to it he don't need to wear it properly until 8mths but they were other people in the park with dogs and without leads and nothing said to them. I think the law so unfair. Just the other day I heard a dog just a few miles away attacked a child not on the danger list but nothing said of it either unless it was a dangerous breed. Something should be done about the law it's not the dogs it's the owners.

Just to correct you. We don't have a dangerous dogs list in ireland. Its a restricted breeds list.

DBB

andreac wrote: »

Just to correct you. We don't have a dangerous dogs list in ireland. Its a restricted breeds list.

There is another correction on the same post further to this: there is no age at which a dog on the restricted breeds list is exempt from wearing a muzzle and lead in public. It's a common misconception, but whether your RB is 4 weeks, 4 months or 4 years of age, the law applies.

stokesdiva

DBB wrote: »

There is another correction on the same post further to this: there is no age at which a dog on the restricted breeds list is exempt from wearing a muzzle and lead in public. It's a common misconception, but whether your RB is 4 weeks, 4 months or 4 years of age, the law applies.

Well iwas told different by the animal welfare officer that came to the house to make sure it was going to a good home and ispca that it is 8mths when they have to wear the muzzle full time when out on the lead. Either way not fair on breed.

DBB

stokesdiva wrote: »

Well iwas told different by the animal welfare officer that came to the house to make sure it was going to a good home and ispca that it is 8mths when they have to wear the muzzle full time when out on the lead. Either way not fair on breed.

You were told wrong, but as I said it's a common misconception that even some people who should know better have. The law specifically states that every dog listed in the 1998 Dog Control Regulations must be muzzled, leashed, and under the control of a person no less than 16 years old who is capable of handling the dog. There is no age mentioned in the legislation, it applies to all dogs on the list.

Here's a link to the legislation, have a read of it to confirm what I've said:
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1998/si/442/made/en/print

QuinDixie

dog breeds are not the problem, dog control is the real problem.
some people are just not suited to having any dogs, others have the wrong breed of dog for their situation.
one of my neighbours has a pointer, never walks it and so the dog has behavioural issues.
another has 2 rotties, the 2 softest friendliest dogs you would ever meet.

the breed of dog is not the problem, its the owners. You can restrict certain breeds all you want, it achieves nothing but vilifying a whole breed.

Dial Hard

QuinDixie wrote:

You can restrict certain breeds all you want, it achieves nothing but vilifying a whole breed.

Not only that, it (imo) makes those breeds more attractive to a certain type of idiot who thinks it makes them look hard.

boomerang

Hated to see so many of the pit bulls had cropped ears. Can only assume they are imports. How any dog lover finds that attractive or necessary is beyond me. The pits in the programme were family pets and the owners were keen to show that they are great dogs in the right hands and the right home. Cropped ears makes them look fierce - detrimental to their reputation.

rottie 11

It's on again tonight ? Probably a repeat

makeandcreate

Resurrecting this as had it recorded and only just watched it. Does anyone have details of either the club's or walk togethers that were featured? I re homed an EBT and would love him to socialise with some other dogs and owners that don't cross the street or look horrified by him. He is sociable, probably more than I am :-)

Hooked

makeandcreate wrote: »

Resurrecting this as had it recorded and only just watched it. Does anyone have details of either the club's or walk togethers that were featured? I re homed an EBT and would love him to socialise with some other dogs and owners that don't cross the street or look horrified by him. He is sociable, probably more than I am :-)

Pretty sure the user 'Damaged Traxx' (mentioned above) was featured in that show, so might be worth a PM.

I've a huge soft spot for the English Bull, as my dad has 3. But we're a long ways from Dublin, sorry!

makeandcreate

Hooked wrote: »

Pretty sure the user 'Damaged Traxx' (mentioned above) was featured in that show, so might be worth a PM.

I've a huge soft spot for the English Bull, as my dad has 3. But we're a long ways from Dublin, sorry!

Thanks, will do. Bullies are characters alright, we just don't have room for a second dog at the moment or I would have another.

DamagedTrax

Here you go.


We have athletics events/shows during the summer months and indoor weight pulling/shows during the colder months.

Pack walks are all year round, usually every 2 or 3 months.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Irelandspitbullterrierassociation

Toots

What exactly is considered a 'pit bull'? I've a staffie labrador cross, and a person I used to work with was appalled that I'd "let a pitbull in the house with my child" TBH I don't care whether she is or she isn't, she absolutely adores my son and vice versa, but I'm curious now.

Here she is:

Cherry Blossom

A pitbull terrier is an American breed. It is a breed in it's own right there. As far as I know the IKC doesn't recognise them but they are not crosses of other breeds.

DamagedTrax

Toots wrote: »

What exactly is considered a 'pit bull'? I've a staffie labrador cross, and a person I used to work with was appalled that I'd "let a pitbull in the house with my child" TBH I don't care whether she is or she isn't, she absolutely adores my son and vice versa, but I'm curious now.

This is an American Pit Bull Terrier


We have a few registries in Ireland that recognise them, IPBTA and UBBR to name two.

The Irish KC refuse to recognise them... but as they are a working breed, they're best kept away from the Irish KC anyway.