Destiny General Discussion Thread

Generic Dreadhead · 26-04-2016 10:12am

Challenge of Elders

Modifiers
Exposure - Guardian shields are increased but do not replenish.
Trickle - Recharge of abilities is significantly reduced.
Melee Kill Bonus - Melee kills are worth more points.

So, wear the Ram

TitianGerm · 26-04-2016 10:13am

Cormac... wrote: »

Challenge of Elders

Modifiers
Exposure - Guardian shields are increased but do not replenish.
Trickle - Recharge of abilities is significantly reduced.
Melee Kill Bonus - Melee kills are worth more points.

So, wear the Ram

Monte Carlo to recharge those Melee !!

Generic Dreadhead · 26-04-2016 10:18am

emmetkenny wrote: »

Monte Carlo to recharge those Melee !!

Good call. I've literally never bothered with it.

Mitch Connor · 26-04-2016 10:18am

Man, those modifiers do not look fun! Ah well, will give it about 9 bashes!

Mitch Connor · 26-04-2016 10:20am

Cormac... wrote: »

Good call. I've literally never bothered with it.

Reduces it mainly, but has the CHANCE to fully charge it.

Generic Dreadhead · 26-04-2016 10:21am

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Reduces it mainly, but has the CHANCE to fully charge it.

Good thing that Life steal proc on all hits with the Ram.

Can see myself doing a run with the Warlock anyway. The other 2 Iight just do the 30k run and see how tedious it is :P

Mitch Connor · 26-04-2016 10:26am

Cormac... wrote: »

Good thing that Life steal proc on all hits with the Ram.

Can see myself doing a run with the Warlock anyway. The other 2 Iight just do the 30k run and see how tedious it is :P

True - reckon Warlock will be the 'go to' class again this week.

Though Titan with Force Barrier (and generating orbs on each melee kill while active) could be usefull - slap on the acd/0 feedback fence maybe too, usefull for when up close. One of the Hunter arms grants and addition melee charge and then Don't Touch Me's could be good.

nevelator · 26-04-2016 10:28am

Cormac... wrote: »

Challenge of Elders

Modifiers
Exposure - Guardian shields are increased but do not replenish.
Trickle - Recharge of abilities is significantly reduced.
Melee Kill Bonus - Melee kills are worth more points.

So, wear the Ram

Looks like I'll be running Gunslinger & Stormcaller. No idea of what is best for Titan - maybe Sunbreaker?

Generic Dreadhead · 26-04-2016 10:29am

The Raid is a better source of stuff between 330 and 335 though.

I guess I'll see what the anecdotal evidence is later. But I will be focusing on Iron Banner this week.

SolvableKnave · 26-04-2016 10:35am

Mitch Connor wrote: »

One of the Hunter arms grants and addition melee charge and then Don't Touch Me's could be good.

Sealed Ahamkara Grasps.

Kimbot · 26-04-2016 10:35am

nevelator wrote: »

Looks like I'll be running Gunslinger & Stormcaller. No idea of what is best for Titan - maybe Sunbreaker?

Melee with my armour generates an orb so i'll be fisting them all to their doom :P

SolvableKnave · 26-04-2016 10:40am

nevelator wrote: »

Looks like I'll be running Gunslinger & Stormcaller. No idea of what is best for Titan - maybe Sunbreaker?

Defender with Disintigrate - Gift of Light(Every Melee kill generates an Orb) could be Viable.

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 26-04-2016 11:50am

Cormac... wrote: »

Challenge of Elders

Modifiers
Exposure - Guardian shields are increased but do not replenish.
Trickle - Recharge of abilities is significantly reduced.
Melee Kill Bonus - Melee kills are worth more points.

So, wear the Ram

Was debating whether or not to buy it... Guess that's made my mind up.

TitianGerm · 26-04-2016 12:26pm

Cormac... wrote: »

Good call. I've literally never bothered with it.

I've used it in Crucible a bit now as an alternative to my Mida.

Works well in control with Nightstalker and double Venom Smoke and Max strength.

Smoke all the doorways

TitianGerm · 26-04-2016 12:28pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

True - reckon Warlock will be the 'go to' class again this week.

Though Titan with Force Barrier (and generating orbs on each melee kill while active) could be usefull - slap on the acd/0 feedback fence maybe too, usefull for when up close. One of the Hunter arms grants and addition melee charge and then Don't Touch Me's could be good.

No Back Up Plans for Titan = Constant Force Barrier = Punch All The Things !!!!

runawaybishop · 26-04-2016 1:10pm

emmetkenny wrote: »

No Back Up Plans for Titan = Constant Force Barrier = Punch All The Things !!!!

Trickle really slows down the melee charge though.

TitianGerm · 26-04-2016 1:14pm

runawaybishop wrote: »

Trickle really slows down the melee charge though.

Oh missed that bit

Varik · 26-04-2016 1:14pm

Might try Khepri's Sting, 4X melee damage when invisible + all sub class invisibility, and go with gun slinger for the instant recharging knife throw (with precision kill).

Also has Switchblade for decreased melee attack cooldown time.

Does Ark blade count as a melee, don't think so but if it did maybe Mask of the Third Man

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 26-04-2016 1:16pm

runawaybishop wrote: »

emmetkenny wrote: »

No Back Up Plans for Titan = Constant Force Barrier = Punch All The Things !!!!

Trickle really slows down the melee charge though.

Does it not proc on a shotgun kill?

Edit: Force barrier proc's on a shotgun kill, melee doesn't. Which means if you get in trouble, kill them with shotty then keep punching.

TitianGerm · 26-04-2016 1:20pm

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

Does it not proc on a shotgun kill?

Edit: Force barrier proc's on a shotgun kill, melee doesn't. Which means if you get in trouble, kill them with shotty then keep punching.

Shotgun and Melee kill now I think.

PetKing · 26-04-2016 1:38pm

There's a page over on that social network site called 'Destiny PS4 community'. The salt and misinformation you can obtain from it is just hilarious.

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 26-04-2016 1:39pm

"Shotgun kills trigger Force Barrier and Force Barrier's duration is increased".

So Kills with a shotgun will trigger Force Barrier.
Force Barrier with Unbreakable perk & Relentless perks, Force Barrier continually recharges and lasts much longer.

So even if your melee isn't charged, you'll be laughing.

runawaybishop · 26-04-2016 2:19pm

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

"Shotgun kills trigger Force Barrier and Force Barrier's duration is increased".

So Kills with a shotgun will trigger Force Barrier.
Force Barrier with Unbreakable perk & Relentless perks, Force Barrier continually recharges and lasts much longer.

So even if your melee isn't charged, you'll be laughing.

Nah, if you dont have a melee charge a shotgun kill doesnt do anything.

Generic Dreadhead · 26-04-2016 2:44pm

I found a site that helps you pick the armour and perks to give you different tier 10/11/12 builds

http://destinytailor.com

Mitch Connor · 26-04-2016 2:49pm

Cormac... wrote: »

I found a site that helps you pick the armour and perks to give you different tier 10/11/12 builds

http://destinytailor.com

Seems to only work based on the armour your toon is currently wearing - or my Hunter and Warlock can only be 5-5-0. Have three options for the Titan but its just playing around with the armour already on him.

Would be a far better site if it could take your other pieces into the equation.

SolvableKnave · 26-04-2016 2:56pm

Cormac... wrote: »

I found a site that helps you pick the armour and perks to give you different tier 10/11/12 builds

http://destinytailor.com

That's a nice little addition to the Destiny Website list.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Seems to only work based on the armour your toon is currently wearing - or my Hunter and Warlock can only be 5-5-0. Have three options for the Titan but its just playing around with the armour already on him.

Would be a far better site if it could take your other pieces into the equation.

I'd say give them time. They'll soon get all the API stuff connected to allow for an optimum loadout based on your storage and vault slots too.

Varik · 27-04-2016 8:28am

Cormac... wrote: »

I found a site that helps you pick the armour and perks to give you different tier 10/11/12 builds

http://destinytailor.com

How do you choose anything, mine is currently 5,5,0 but it's giving me 5,4,0 (360 int)

Working on 1 character, other 2 isn't and giving the helmet I've got a "Intellect + 0"

Varik · 27-04-2016 11:12am

Is 320 at much of a disadvantage now with a 15 light difference now.

Got the monday off so more time if I did raid/COE before jumping in to see if I can jump up a level or 2.

Generic Dreadhead · 27-04-2016 11:29am

Varik wrote: »

Is 320 at much of a disadvantage now with a 15 light difference now.

Got the monday off so more time if I did raid/COE before jumping in to see if I can jump up a level or 2.

In PvP?

Well for reference the Jade Rabbit does 75 damage normally in a headset

With me being 333 and my opponent at 311 I was doing 77 damage with a headshot

So anecdotally that's 2 damage per 22 light levels.
So that's a 2.66666% damage shift for 22 light levels or approx 2.5% for 20 light levels. Or 1.25% for 10 light levels.

So a player at 335 shooting you would only be doing 1.875% extra damage and you would be doing 1.875% less damage.

Thing is, a lot of guns do 10-35 damage a shot, so they won't even be affected by a percentage shift so small.

For PvE:

320 is plenty sufficient for ANY content including Hard Challenge Oryx

Mitch Connor · 27-04-2016 11:35am

Varik wrote: »

Is 320 at much of a disadvantage now with a 15 light difference now.

Got the monday off so more time if I did raid/COE before jumping in to see if I can jump up a level or 2.

against 330 opponents you'll be doing about 2.5% less damage. Against 335 I think it will be around 4.5% less damage.

https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/13754

The graph there is a bit misleading - the 1,2,3 at the top are not individual light levels, it is blocks of 10 light.

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